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#1287574
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Omni said:

You did though, by saying it’s been making the headlines for the last 10 years to no release. The SEs were released in Bluray, so you could only be talking about OUT. And yeah, CHEWBAKAspelledwrong has it pretty much right.

Yes but even within these last 10 years there’s been rumors of a 4K release up the wazoo. Sure they didn’t really start up til circa 2014 but nonetheless within this decade. So fine. I partially misquoted, I partially misinformed. I was wrong and I wasn’t wrong. But again my only argument was I take everything with the words ‘rumor’, ‘(unidentified) sources say’, ‘reportedly’ blah blah blah as nothing more than rumors. I’m far past the speculation stage by now with or without the OUT. Just give a confirmation already. That’s all I was saying. And again I agree 4K is the next logical step. But again as of now it’s just further unconfirmed speculation.

(Breathes in and out)

Ok we’re good. On a positive note let’s hope these ‘rumors’ come to fruition.

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#1287571
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

crissrudd4554 said:

A rumor is a rumor. It can be trusted or not trusted. My point is I will not get hyped for anything until something is confirmed. ‘Rumor’ as far as I’m concerned means nothing because ‘Rumor of Original Trilogy reissue’ has been a headline that’s come out like once a year for like the last decade! Give a confirmation then you’ll have my attention.

The rumor isn’t OUT, it’s OT, to which I say, “Star Wars in 4K soon? No shit.”

Is 4K the next logical step? Yes.
Is it confirmed? No.

Again my point is until I see a confirmation everything is a rumor and that’s that.

And to be fair I did not say OUT.

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#1287569
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Not to mention the screening was to compare and contrast visual effects aspects of the original trilogy era to the effects in Rogue One. Given the Special Edition only has about 30-40% of the original work intact of those present at the screening, this was likely why George needed some convincing to allow the screening of the original film.

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#1287565
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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A rumor is a rumor. It can be trusted or not trusted. My point is I will not get hyped for anything until something is confirmed. ‘Rumor’ as far as I’m concerned means nothing because ‘Rumor of Original Trilogy reissue’ has been a headline that’s come out like once a year for like the last decade! Give a confirmation then you’ll have my attention.

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#1287547
Topic
70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Someone brought this up on another site and I suppose there is a good point with this. Yes it is a good sign that Lucas gave the OK for this showing but at the same time needing his ok to showing the original version publicly may still be a sign that the issue of getting the originals restored and released on video is still an issue that needs ok’ing from the former head honcho.

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#1287517
Topic
Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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TheHutt said:

Isn’t “bitch” in “son of a bitch” in the final scene also muted down (to be suppressed by the shot) on the BluRay? Or was it just the 5.1 audio that has this?

It’s drowned out in the surround mix due to the replaced gun shot being so loud.

https://youtu.be/FpxOLhuNXfM

Also I do have captured audio files from the LD and 2005 DVD sync’d to the BD which I got from users on FanRes. Anyone needs them PM me.

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#1287442
Topic
Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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I think I know what you’re talking about and yes I have noticed this before. However, I’m not sure if it’s exactly a ‘volume spike’ since the quality of the laugh seems different before and after the jump. Before the jump it seems a bit garbled, after it sounds a bit better. This may have been a mixing issue. Given I was born many years after Jaws came out and I’ve sadly only caught a showing of it in the theaters a few years ago with the surround mix, I can’t comment on what this instance was in the theatrical release. However this seems to have been a recurring instance in all the video releases including in this clip (skip to 7:06) so who knows?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gimx8kxykQ8

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#1287414
Topic
Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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The 25th Anniversary DVD did not have the mono option. I’ll have to do some cross checking but I never noticed a drop in volume in that section on the mono on the 30th Anniversary DVD (that’s personally my go to version for the mono). Below are some clips. Based on what I’ve listened to over the years on various releases I’m pretty sure this is the source of these tracks.

Laserdisc

https://youtu.be/N_AIcVMStCg

30th Anniversary DVD

https://youtu.be/Bp1clW-73M4

Blu-ray

https://youtu.be/EQMZC_7KyIE

One thing I don’t really like about the LD track in this instance is the gun shot when he says ‘bitch’ lacks the punch it has in the other two examples. Just my personal opinion over what’s the best version of the mono, the LD version is a bit more definitive while IMO the track on the 30th Anniversary DVD is a bit more crisper though it has some audio issues in some spots such as audio crackle during the cage attack scene (an issue that also plagues the Blu-ray mono).

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#1287403
Topic
Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
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NeoMatrix said:

crissrudd4554 said:

JayArgonaut said:

For the benefit of those, such as myself who are unaware of problems with the mono tracks on DVD and Blu-ray, can you elaborate please?

https://vimeo.com/166704816

And because it’s a long vid I’ll break it down.

  1. Cassidy burps at the end of the opening scene. The burp is audible on the LD while its only faintly present on the DVD and BD mono tracks. The burp is missing completely on the DVD and BD surround tracks.

  2. This isn’t an issue with the BD or DVDs. Some pre-1995 video releases had different music playing in the background of the beach scene where the boy on the raft is killed. Subsequent releases have the correct music, mono and surround.

  3. When Brody and Hooper cut open the Tiger Shark, the sound effects on the 2012 BD/DVD mono are a fraction of a second out of sync. The LD and 2005 DVD mono have the correct syncing.

  4. When the shark tugs the Orca, the dialogue being shouted by the three leads is much clearer on the LD as well the DVD and BD surround mixes. On the mono track on the DVDs and BD the dialogue is a bit drowned out in spots.

  5. When the engine overheats and explodes, the sound effect of the explosion is in the wrong pitch on the 2012 BD/DVD. The LD and 2005 DVD mono has the correct pitch.

  6. When the rigging for the shark cage collapses Brody lets out a scream when the rigging lands and just misses him. The scream is audible on the LD as well as the DVD and BD surround tracks. The scream is a bit drowned out in the DVD and BD mono tracks. Additionally a shot of the shark wrecking the cage just before the rigging collapses has an odd drop in volume on the 2012 BD/DVD.

  7. When Quint and Brody bring up the wrecked remains of the shark cage, Brody lets out a subtle ‘yeah’. This is heard on all but the LD.

Plus there is a sharp drop in the audio when Brody laughs at the shark’s demise

On which release??

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#1287337
Topic
Jaws (1975) Original Mono audio
Time

JayArgonaut said:

For the benefit of those, such as myself who are unaware of problems with the mono tracks on DVD and Blu-ray, can you elaborate please?

https://vimeo.com/166704816

And because it’s a long vid I’ll break it down.

  1. Cassidy burps at the end of the opening scene. The burp is audible on the LD while its only faintly present on the DVD and BD mono tracks. The burp is missing completely on the DVD and BD surround tracks.

  2. This isn’t an issue with the BD or DVDs. Some pre-1995 video releases had different music playing in the background of the beach scene where the boy on the raft is killed. Subsequent releases have the correct music, mono and surround.

  3. When Brody and Hooper cut open the Tiger Shark, the sound effects on the 2012 BD/DVD mono are a fraction of a second out of sync. The LD and 2005 DVD mono have the correct syncing.

  4. When the shark tugs the Orca, the dialogue being shouted by the three leads is much clearer on the LD as well the DVD and BD surround mixes. On the mono track on the DVDs and BD the dialogue is a bit drowned out in spots.

  5. When the engine overheats and explodes, the sound effect of the explosion is in the wrong pitch on the 2012 BD/DVD. The LD and 2005 DVD mono has the correct pitch.

  6. When the rigging for the shark cage collapses Brody lets out a scream when the rigging lands and just misses him. The scream is audible on the LD as well as the DVD and BD surround tracks. The scream is a bit drowned out in the DVD and BD mono tracks. Additionally a shot of the shark wrecking the cage just before the rigging collapses has an odd drop in volume on the 2012 BD/DVD.

  7. When Quint and Brody bring up the wrecked remains of the shark cage, Brody lets out a subtle ‘yeah’. This is heard on all but the LD.

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#1283229
Topic
Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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SpacemanDoug said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Blu Ray 1977 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I believe Fast Times at Ridgemont High had some changes as well. Some home video releases had different songs due to licensing but I think this was resolved by the time the film made it to DVD. The surround mix first introduced on the 2005 DVD had some minor effects changes I believe. That DVD as well as the BD does not have the mono. The original DVD and the High School Reunion DVD as far as I know has the correct original mono!

It’s me Pete 1972! You remember when we commented on the Jaws videos? Looks like another film is getting the audio revisionism treatment. According to Digital Bits and some fans, Batman 89’s Dolby Atmos mix has a lot of changes with the sound effects. Gun shots have been altered and the starting up of the Batmobile is changed too. Also Digital Bits said that the Dolby 5.1 on the 4K is a downmix and not the 5.1 that was on the previous Blu Ray.

Figures. (Rolls eyes) Apparently the 4K release of Blade Runner also has audio revisions though I’m not sure off hand what they are.

And yes I do remember you. Nice to see ya again!

actually the audio revisions on Blade Runner date back to when the 2007 Blu-ray was released, and the revisions are only on the final cut, the other cuts have the original sound effects

No I’ve seen comments on bluray.com that apparently more revisions were made to the Final Cut mix for the UHD release.

Here’s part of a quote from one user.

“As for the audio, I must apologise to whomever it was who mentioned that the sounds of the fire plumes in the opening ‘hades’ shot were different, because they ARE different and it’s patently obvious. This isn’t just Atmos affecting it (which I don’t use anyway, listening in straight 7.1), this isn’t just better quality, this is noticeably different audio. This continues into the opening scene at Tyrell Corp, like where you can now hear the distinct ‘woosh’ of the fan blades overhead during the wide shot in the ‘mother’ exchange between Holden and Leon, then when Leon actually shoots him the sound of his first gunshot is largely unchanged but the second one has been altered to a more normal sounding gun and Holden hitting the table is palpably ‘sharper’ sounding, for want of a better description.”

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#1283129
Topic
Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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Blu Ray 1977 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

I believe Fast Times at Ridgemont High had some changes as well. Some home video releases had different songs due to licensing but I think this was resolved by the time the film made it to DVD. The surround mix first introduced on the 2005 DVD had some minor effects changes I believe. That DVD as well as the BD does not have the mono. The original DVD and the High School Reunion DVD as far as I know has the correct original mono!

It’s me Pete 1972! You remember when we commented on the Jaws videos? Looks like another film is getting the audio revisionism treatment. According to Digital Bits and some fans, Batman 89’s Dolby Atmos mix has a lot of changes with the sound effects. Gun shots have been altered and the starting up of the Batmobile is changed too. Also Digital Bits said that the Dolby 5.1 on the 4K is a downmix and not the 5.1 that was on the previous Blu Ray.

Figures. (Rolls eyes) Apparently the 4K release of Blade Runner also has audio revisions though I’m not sure off hand what they are.

And yes I do remember you. Nice to see ya again!