crissrudd4554

And technically Spielberg is STILL revising his films on home video. Maybe not to full on Lucas level but the idea that the versions of his movies available right now are fully true to the theatrical versions is false. There’s been recompositing, minor digital tweaks to correct matting and other things, changes in color timing, changes to audio. So if anything he’s not really proving himself to be any better than his buddy George when it comes to preserving his work as is. Yes the changes might be minor in comparison but they’re still changes.

Star Wars- I alternate but typically call it A New Hope

Empire Strikes Back- Empire

Return of the Jedi- Jedi

All others I call by their episode title (Phantom Menace- Phantom Menace, etc.) though I might refer to Attack of the Clones as Clones on rare occasions.

Interesting that this recent interview with John Williams uses the theatrical opening crawl at one point. Looks like the GOUT unconverted to 16:9 but nonetheless still cool to see it used in more recent media.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfYwrW8KMHo&t=218s

I’m honestly not sure Id want those even if they had the OUT. Ok maybe I don’t hate it THAT much but still.

crissrudd4554 said:

Not an ‘alteration’ alteration but worth mentioning. This is regarding the movie Indian in the Cupboard. For the US Theatrical release and International video releases the film was distributed by Paramount. For International Theatrical release and US video releases it was distributed by Columbia. For the Paramount release, Paramount gets first billing in the opening credits. For the Columbia release it’s reversed.

Paramount

Columbia

Same for end credits. Note the Paramount version has 1995 in Roman Numerals while the Columbia version is regular numbers??

Paramount

Columbia

I know this thread is basically dead but going back to this old post I figured I would chip in on this film again since I recently got the Blu-ray. While the Blu-ray still uses the Columbia version (it is a Sony release afterall) I noticed something interesting with the end credits. First off it uses the end credits from the Paramount version since Paramount is credited first with the copyright and additionally the Columbia logo at the end fades in a second or two later than it had before.

Dream Weaver was always a different recording. Gary Wright re-recorded it specifically for the film.

digitalfreaknyc said:

crissrudd4554 said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Just finished watching and yeah like what the above comment says not much new in terms of information. Nice to get Marcia Lucas’ input for once but otherwise not much that past documentaries haven’t already told us.

There was a bunch of stuff in the Empire episode that I had never heard before.

I haven’t seen that one yet.

So what HAVE you watched? 3 episodes have aired. You’re judging a whole series on…what…one episode? 2?

I only saw the first one so and far and sheeesh relax I didn’t know others were out yet.

digitalfreaknyc said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Just finished watching and yeah like what the above comment says not much new in terms of information. Nice to get Marcia Lucas’ input for once but otherwise not much that past documentaries haven’t already told us.

There was a bunch of stuff in the Empire episode that I had never heard before.

I haven’t seen that one yet.

Just finished watching and yeah like what the above comment says not much new in terms of information. Nice to get Marcia Lucas’ input for once but otherwise not much that past documentaries haven’t already told us.

Recent interview with Mike Judge. Nice to know the edits to the DVD releases were not actually done by him even the ones labeled as “directors cuts”.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d6qfd-X0a4s&t=397s

Don’t forget his quote circa mid 2000’s where he said the idea of a sequel trilogy was made up by the media.

Does anyone happen to have a clean image of the back cover image of the kid peering through the door???

Orion is theatrical. The Hemdale logo that’s seen on some video releases didn’t exist in 1984.

canofhumdingers said:
Even if that image is from a more recent edition, the lightsaber’s been there since opening day in 1980.

I even went back to two VHS versions and even though the bulk of the lightsaber was cropped out I could make out a bit of the gripped area of the handle in the bottom corner so yes I know this wasn’t something added later

ken-obi said:
Huh. That is a pretty cool spot. Is that an image from the 2019 version?

I believe so. Granted I screen capped this from a YouTube video.

Tonight I finally noticed something that answers a question that’s bugged me literally EVERY time I’ve watched ESB until now. After Luke flies out the window I’ve constantly asked myself “how did he get his lightsaber back??” when he confronts Vader again. Well I finally got the answer. The lightsaber landed just a few feet away from where Luke pulls himself onto the platform. Never realized this until now.

One last post regarding the Faces Empire tape. One thing you might notice is for some odd reason, despite that its essentially the 1993 master converted to full screen, the image is slightly stretched horizontally but I also noticed it shows slightly more image at the top. For comparison here’s a shot from the VHS…

…and the same shot from the GOUT converted to 4:3. I tried to get the framing accurate.

I love these two I found on YouTube.

“if you think incomplete, error-ridden, scene missing, awful effects theatricals are better, then you’re either an extreme windowlicker or totally blinded by ridiculous nostalgia.”

“ Why would anyone want the superior versions to die? Sure the original SE from the 90s can die, it’s been improved since then. But even those were better than the laughable theatricals.”

Especially when the subject was never about “changing them back”.

A lot recently since I’m in the process of digitizing my VHS’.

More example of the blue laser bolts from the Faces VHS of Empire from earlier in the scene.

If this is what you got then Full Screen should have been expected.

Any of the changes had George Lucas’ involvement. Fox had no role in this. The 2019 changes were actually done circa 2012 for a 3D release that never happened.

CloakedDragon97 said:

The 1991 Addams Family movie is extended in the UHD release.

It includes both cuts.

The music was slightly extended in parts beginning during the sequence where Han is being loaded onto the Slave 1. Why exactly I’m not sure. Perhaps they wanted the music to continue up til it cut back to Luke and Vader. There’s also difference in timing for the music during the actual escape too (partly due to extending Lando’s evacuation announcement). The closing cue that’s suppose to hit when it cuts to the exterior of the platform where the final duel takes place now happens about two seconds before actually cutting to the shot.