towne32

deepanddark20 said:

Is there anyone kind enough to private message me regarding the subject of burning the despecialized edition without any quality loss?

I’ll just post it here since it’s within the rules and other people always want to know. Just use tsmuxerGUI to convert the MKV to blu-ray.

FrankT said:

There’s a MySpleen invite page somewhere on here, if you can find it. Ask there.

That thread is no longer giving out myspleen invites.

Is it spoilery?

joefavs said:

I’ve been listening to the soundtrack all day and it’s somehow made me feel less spoiled. Not only do a handful of music cues seem to contradict things I thought I knew, it also reminded me that the plot is really only a part of a much larger picture. The music is this whole other rich dimension that I haven’t been giving much thought to at all. I’m now feeling confident that there will be plenty to surprise and delight me, even if I do already know many of the story beats.

Did the ‘leaked’ track titles end up being real? I quickly started to scan them and then stopped myself. Without naming them, were they spoilery?

I didn’t mean to insult your intelligence, just pointing out that sometimes people misread those particular scores.

Either way, a high score like that is a great indicator that the thing isn’t a flop.

Edit: Also, I think someone posted the OT tomato scores based only on critical reviews upon original release. They were surprisingly low, even ESB.

You can download them and make your own discs.

Was the guy on youtube Harmy? People sometimes send him box sets that they build themselves as a way of thanking him for his hard work.

If the person bought them, they did so against the wishes of Harmy, everyone on this website, and surely Disney.

Possessed said:

Btw TFA now has a score of 94% on rotten tomatoes. The same score as ANH.

It seems that RT scores are frequently biased high in the early hours. In fact, it was 97% two hours ago.

But the % on RT should be considered for only what it is. A percentage of people who said it was good and not rotten. It doesn’t take raw scores into account. So, for instance, a film that is mediocre but enjoyable will have a far better score than something that stratifies audiences into people who adore or loathe it. Something with 2.5 stars across the board will have a better score than a film with nearly all 4 star reviews, with a couple people who disliked it.

Cool. Enjoy!!!

TK428 said:

My favorite critic loves the film.

Mick LaSalle (San Francisco Chronicle)

http://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-is-the-best-6700735.php

How spoilery does the review get? I started reading it, but after seeing how long it goes on (i.e., a real article instead of a blurb), I imagine there must be enough substance to refer to specifics…

DuracellEnergizer said:

Z6PO said:

It’s great. It’s truly great. Don’t be afraid!

Don’t worry, my fear has already led to anger.

Spoiler: Kylo Ren’s lightsaber is actually rainbow colored, not red. You’ll love it!

CatBus said:

Timoty said:

Do you think the GOUT ROTJ would rest well alongside Harmy’s ANH and ESB? I’m doing standard DL DVDs to accommodate all the “special features” I’m including

There’s some bad DVD downscales out there though, so be sure to get a good one or roll your own.

Yes, I mistakenly gifted someone the DVD5 of RoTJ DeSp that has the menu. The friend I gave the disc to is no videophile, and I think he may even only have a CRT TV. But even he noticed how bad it looked.

CatBus said:

Timoty said:

Maybe slightly off-topic but I’m making Harmy DVDs for my dad for Christmas. For ROTJ, would you guys recommend v1.0 or is the workprint complete enough for now? I know the video quality is supposed to be much better in the WP.

I appreciate any opinions!

IMO – and it pains me to say it – 1.0 is better for general-purpose enjoyment than the 2.0WP. The missing subtitles can be fixed, but the crazy wrong R2 freakout just wrecks it, worse than blurry eyebrows. For my own purposes – like a lot of people here, it seems – I’ve made a mashup of the workprint with 1.0 spliced in at a few key points. I’m confident the second workprint or final release of 2.0, whatever’s next, will be clearly better than 1.0 in every respect. The first workprint very nearly is.

I would say deathalo’s patch up plus subs would work great. But it still has text during the fox logo, so still not ideal for a permanent copy.

Don’t get me wrong, I hate JarJar’s voice and essentially every line of his.

But Hal’s edit works much better than some of the more over the top ones, simply because the execution of these grand ideas (like redubbing JarJar, or removing him entirely) is never good enough to work seamlessly. The results of those ambitious edits are interesting, as sorts of animatics or demo reels to give an idea of what might have been. But I don’t ever feel like I’m watching a real film with them. Hal9000’s edits are more modest, as if someone with a brain walked into the editing room during the later stages of piecing the film together. But they work! And, by and large, the result is extremely professional looking and sounding.

Williarob said:

It works on red faded shots too! Here is a short tutorial: https://youtu.be/5OtaGT3A8Bs

I see you’ve hosted 1.3 somewhere more permanent. Perhaps, assuming Dre agrees, that should be linked in the first post instead of a soon to expire link?

The point is that spoilers are relative. There was also nothing directly stated in the post itself. The mods have previously stated that links are fine, if properly labeled. But it’s irrelevant in this case, as there are no spoilers.

But again, it’s relative. Hal9000 just left this thread because someone posted a 100% spoiler free review which essentially said: the movie was fun, I think you’ll enjoy it but I can’t tell you anything specific yet.

As Frink said, he was just being polite.

Warbler said:

dclarkg said:

*** POTENTIAL SPOILERS. READ FIRST ***

did you read the title of this thread?

Meh, there are different degrees of spoilers and degrees of spoiler avoidance. Some people in this thread probably don’t even want to know the damn characters names.

The red carpet thing was an official starwars.com event, and they specifically did it spoiler free (from a reasonable person’s point of view).

edit: never mind, this was essentially stated exactly one line under the text you decided to quote:

*** ALL THE FOLLOWING VIDEO MATERIAL WAS TAKEN FROM THE STAR WARS OFFICIAL YOU TUBE CHANNEL, THESE MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED AS SPOILERS SINCE IT WAS PUBLISHED OVER A OFFICIAL CHANNEL, HOWEVER THE DEFINITION OF ‘‘SPOILER’’ CAN BE SUBJECTIVE AS WELL SO IF YOU ARE AVOIDING EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION UNTIL THE TFA PREMIER THEN DO NOT PROCEED. ***

Deathalo said:

towne32 said:

Deathalo said:

Got the ROTJ 2.0 Workprint, very happy to see it before TFA in a few days, thank you for that! I went ahead and demuxed the video file and fixed the noticeable subtitle flash frames and glitches around the 14:30-15:00 mark in Premiere then re-exported in the same or higher bitrate. I also went ahead and covered up the timecode on the bottom left, if anyone wants my version to enjoy let me know and I’ll post a link.

You didn’t happen to patch the R2 Swiss Army knife with the 2004 HD, did you?

Haha, no I did not, I haven’t even watched the whole thing yet, I just was re-rendering this one so my wife and I (and maybe some friends) could watch it without timecode. I saw the subtitle glitches mentioned and quickly found and fixed with masking from next/last frames. What part of the film are you referring to, timecode wise?

I don’t have the film on me. When R2 is zapped as Han and Leia are trying to get into the bunker, he flies back and his appendages all fly out. Harmy only patched one of the two shots.

https://picasaweb.google.com/102542760950977079734/JediSpecialEditionChangesHD#6140313450262177698

Deathalo said:

Got the ROTJ 2.0 Workprint, very happy to see it before TFA in a few days, thank you for that! I went ahead and demuxed the video file and fixed the noticeable subtitle flash frames and glitches around the 14:30-15:00 mark in Premiere then re-exported in the same or higher bitrate. I also went ahead and covered up the timecode on the bottom left, if anyone wants my version to enjoy let me know and I’ll post a link.

You didn’t happen to patch the R2 Swiss Army knife with the 2004 HD, did you?

Also, since you’re new here I will point out: Don’t post the link in this thread, use PM.

Also, also: Harmy has generally been okay with people re-encoding his work, but it might be polite to ask him anyway since he is seeking feedback on this one. That said, everything you’ve fixed is stuff we’ve heard about multiple times, and you obviously did it for your own viewing pleasure.

I was just looking at the various 97SE versions that I have (to compare to the newly on usenet althor LD rips), including TB and Gkar. The Team Blu release is pretty similar to the others, but it does look to be adjusted throughout.

Anyway, I’m not sure what the dogmatic answer to your question should be. But I think they’re worth preserving when the color looks good. Aside from all of the 1997 SW films, the Raiders DVD and WOWOW color timing come to mind. None of these are timed accurately compared to their respective original releases, but they all look pretty damn good and very natural. I’ve finally managed to snag Adywan’s 97 ESB reconstruction, with color meant to match the 1997 version, and it looks really great.

Anchorhead said:

TK428 said:
John Boyega on ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’, Deleted Scenes, and Whether Han Shot First

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9H3yVGCUcQ

He’s fun to listen to in interviews. He has a healthy sense of all this craziness and doesn’t take it too seriously. I particularly like his reply to the who shot first question. He doesn’t even let the guy finish the question before matter-of-factly answering Han, then asks the interviewer “what kind of question is that?”

That seems similar to JJ’s response from the same interviewer. Something about being insulted that he would even ask.

NeverarGreat said:

Some friends and I were going to have a Star Wars OT marathon before TFA, and I decided to use the Grindhouse version of ESB. So to that end I have made a LUT to correct the colors:

https://mega.nz/#!2FdX0QIb

Key: !HCtmQgTtkQtuj6qIbLw4mvrIEodn2q1hODyAr_Pm9l0

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/154438/picture:0

Looks great. About 2 days to late for my marathon viewing, though! 😃 Is it effective throughout the whole film?

Yep. Has been discussed.

wrkerr said:

I’m just eager to start seeding v4 when they are out. 😃

Most altruistic torrenter ever?

yoda-sama said:

towne32 said:

yoda-sama said:

At this rate, there are probably only a few occasions to really be concerned about legal action… or during/after an official release of the OOT (if they feel the DeEd could harm sales of a product they’re finally trying to sell).

I love Harmy’s versions. But man, they’d have to really butcher their own release in order to make that a valid concern. Still, they may find a way to manage.

You never know what greedy people will do. There’s already people trying to sell it for a profit as it is, but they could try to pass it off as an early release of the official version or something silly closer to the release date… Product confusion is not looked pleasantly upon. Granted, at that point, they’d probably have better results coming down on those sellers, than messing with Harmy.

That’s a very good point. Some company in hong kong could just print off the official cover from an announcement and ten thousand bootleg discs from fan sources. People suck.

After that, if Disney screws up an OOT in enough ways that could use the Harmy touch to make it more authentic (using the new official source), then things could get really interesting…

Kind of. While I think it would be wise to let the dust settle from an official release, the vast majority of people waiting for the unaltered versions just want the dumb changes undone. They’re not purists, they don’t care about recomposited stuff. They want Lapti Nek, Hayden and CGjabba gone, and Han to shoot first.

Interest in fan SW preservation edits will become much more niche, I think. Similar to the releases we see around here where things are regraded, but 99.99% of consumers wouldn’t care, or would even prefer the official version. I suppose that’s why I said it would take a massive screw up for Disney to consider fan preservations a threat after an official release. Few fans have the same need for meticulous perfection that we see around here (and they’re probably better off for it 😛 ). I just think that our version of a ‘screw up’ and everyone else’s is very different.

yoda-sama said:

At this rate, there are probably only a few occasions to really be concerned about legal action… or during/after an official release of the OOT (if they feel the DeEd could harm sales of a product they’re finally trying to sell).

I love Harmy’s versions. But man, they’d have to really butcher their own release in order to make that a valid concern. Still, they may find a way to manage.