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#1210746
Topic
Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation <strong>(V1 Released!)</strong>
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Stotchy said:

I respect you position and your thoughtful response Towne, but it keeps happening.

I have no issues with noobs asking questions but there should be penalties for rudeness to keep the forum conversations respectful. Zero tolerance I say.

It’s not necessarily my position, but the forum’s position is definitely not zero tolerance at the moment. That said, I have seen new members turn things around after a thoughtful/informative reply. Otherwise, they just become more irrational and inflammatory in response to kindness, and then they’re banned for sure. Seems like a logical way of dealing with things.

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#1210743
Topic
Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation <strong>(V1 Released!)</strong>
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Stotchy said:

Dwalin said:

What’s the point of color correction if millions of fans don’t know how to download your releases?
So hard to upload on an outdoor torrent tracker and cloud storage?

Can someone ban this guy?

I think there’s a new approach here of not being harsh/terrible to new members, even when they are rude and misinformed in their first few posts. Some might still end up banned, but giving them a chance has proven effective from what I’ve seen.

Not sure if that’s still going on or not. But there were a few people here with much more patience than me that were undertaking the responsibility of gently and politely telling people why we do things the way we do, and pointing them in the right direction.

Here’s my best effort: there is a reason for the methods we use. These projects often take members here hundreds of hours, so they can be a bit touchy when a new person barges in with demands. These things are out there in public and people here can be extremely helpful when asked politely. Once you acquire the files, you are (in most cases) more than welcome to start up a public torrent or file locker upload (you are NOT permitted to post links to those things openly in this forum).

These things are not the responsibilities of the content creators, so please don’t act in an ungrateful way toward said creators. They don’t even need to share these things with the community at all, let alone the outside world.

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#1210527
Topic
Doctor Who
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Also, for anyone who hasn’t seen, here’s the Blu-ray season 12 packaging for the UK (confirmed not to be region locked, but you do need 50hz compatibility):

link

Here’s the boring US packaging:

link

Here’s the complete features list as of now:

Video:
ROBOT

  • Making Of documentary: Are Friends Electric?
  • Audio commentary by Tom Baker, Elisabeth Sladen and Terrance Dicks
  • Robot Rehearsals Read Through (new)
  • The Tunnel Effect - interview with Bernard Lodge
  • Behind The Sofa (new)
  • Blue Peter - 1974
  • Photo Gallery (updated and HD)
  • Clean opening and closing titles previously featured on a different release (HD)
  • Continuity announcements (new)
  • Production Information Subtitles (new)
  • Radio Times Listings
  • BBC Enterprises Literature

THE ARK IN SPACE

  • Making Of documentary: A New Frontier
  • Audio commentary by Tom Baker, Elisabeth Sladen and Philip Hinchcliffe
  • Optional 5.1 surround (new)
  • Optional CGI effects
  • 70-minute omnibus edition
  • Roger Murray-Leach Interview
  • Alternative Title Sequence
  • Behind the Sofa (new)
  • Photo Gallery (updated HD)
  • Continuity announcements
  • Model Effects Roll
  • 3D Technical Schematics
  • Production Information Subtitles
  • Radio Times Listings
  • Nestle promotional materials

THE SONTARAN EXPERIMENT

  • Making Of documentary: Like Nothing On Earth (new)
  • Audio commentary by Elisabeth Sladen, Philip Hinchcliffe and Bob Baker
  • Built For War
  • On Target - Ian Marter previously featured on a different release
  • Location Report
  • Behind The Sofa (new)
  • Photo Gallery (updated HD)
  • Production Information Subtitles
  • Radio Times Listings

GENESIS OF THE DALEKS

  • Making Of documentary: Genesis of a Classic
  • Audio commentary by Tom Baker, Elisabeth Sladen, Peter Miles and David Maloney
  • Optional 5.1 surround sound (new)
  • 90-minute omnibus edition (new)
  • The Dalek Tapes
  • Keith Miller audio from TVC Canteen during Genesis 3 (new)
  • Blue Peter, 1975
  • Behind The Sofa (new)
  • Photo Gallery (updated HD)
  • Radio Times Billings
  • Production Information Subtitles (new)
  • The Doctor Who Annual 1976

REVENGE OF THE CYBERMEN

  • Making Of documentary: The Tin Man and The Witch (new/updated HD)
  • Audio commentary by Elisabeth Sladen, Philip Hinchcliffe and David Collings
  • Optional CGI effects (new)
  • Location Report at Wookey Hole
  • Cheques, Lies and Videotape (now HD)
  • Behind the Sofa (new)
  • Continuity Compilation
  • Photo Gallery (updated HD)
  • Radio Times Billings
  • Production Information Subtitles

Misc. Extras
Tom Baker - In Conversation (new)
Tom Baker Years Volume 1 (new)
Tom Baker Years Volume 2 (new)
Doctor Who - Times (new)

Disc PDFs:

489 pages of production documentation
1331 pages of script
19 pages of BBC Enterprises sales information for Season 12
47 pages of Radio Times cuttings
45 pages of the Weetabix 1975 promotion
42 pages of the Wall’s Dalek’s Death Ray
12 pages of the Nestle 1975 promotion
59 pages of the 1976 Doctor Who Annual

2044 pages in total.

The following features aren’t included as they’re being moved to the most appropriate season sets:

Doctor Forever - Love and War
Scene Around Six - Tom in Northern Ireland from around 1977/78
TARDIS Cam 1
The Doctor Who Technical Manual PDF
Crosse & Blackwell Promo PDF

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#1210523
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

Anakin Starkiller said:

Twitch is gonna be streaming Classic Who…most of it. Any stories with missing episodes are skipped, even if they’ve been animated, except Web of Fear, for some reason, which isn’t even animated. And they’re missing tons of Dalek stories too. So many important or enjoyable stories like The Tenth Planet, The Five Doctors, and Remembrance of the Daleks are being skipped. Oh well. At least they have The Gunslingers, which is next on my viewing list (watching the entire series), so I guess I’ll watch that live.

This is almost always the case with their streaming package. Terry Nation’s estate demands enormous amounts of money to include Dalek stories not written by Nation himself. Sadly, this includes The Five Doctors due to the 30 seconds a Dalek is on screen.

They also need to work out deals with the animating companies normally. Invasion tends to be included as it was made much earlier and with a different contract. But this one is strange, as it doesn’t even include Power of the Daleks (made recently, with streaming in mind, and available usually in streaming packages). So presumably they just don’t want to show animation.

Not sure what their plan is for Ice Warriors. It would be very strange to show that low quality animation. Maybe they’re using the old 15 minute condensed recon for episodes 2 and 3, originally made for VHS.

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#1209963
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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Ronster said:

towne32 said:

The pink flesh tones look good. The actors look unhealthy in your hue shifts. 😃

It looks like you based it on the one particularly rosey faced man. He has probably received more attention on OT than any other character, but yes, he’s a bit red usually. But in doing so, everyone else in yours went from normal to liver failure. 😃

LOl yep I think you hit the nail on the head… I am so fed up with rosy cheeks 😃

Right let’s look at flesh.

70’s Flesh?

While he’s obviously not rosey like the one man, he certainly has a lot more color in his skin than the other desatuurated guys in your images. I just think much, much, much less attention here should be going to that one soldier in general. He’s an outlier, and I think it’s funny how commonly people focus on him and even adjust their overall grading because of him!

I think another thing that happens is that people, in various projects here, tend to want to desaturate the whole Tantive scene more than is really necessary. Perhaps this is a response to how ugly the BD is. But I certainly went too far with 2.7 in the exact same way. It shouldn’t be so sterile.

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#1209960
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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The pink flesh tones look good. The actors look unhealthy in your hue shifts. 😃

It looks like you based it on the one particularly rosey faced man. He has probably received more attention on OT than any other character, but yes, he’s a bit red usually. But in doing so, everyone else in yours went from normal to liver failure. 😃

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#1209345
Topic
4k77 released
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Williarob said:

Those of you who are experiencing jerky playback in the UHD version: Try remuxing the streams into a new MKV container - somebody on another forum did this when adding/subtracting some audio streams and the problem went away. It was originally muxed with the latest version MKVToolnix, but perhaps there is a glitch in the container. Try it and let us know if that fixes the problem for you too.

I tried that when I first noticed the problem. Though I probably also had the latest mkvtoolnix, I did mux it with only a single audio track. I also tried m2ts. Jerky playback with everything. As I’ve said once or thrice, MadVR in MPC solved the problem completely.

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#1209013
Topic
4k77 released
Time

Even with a GPU that can easily handle it, some people (including myself) ran into problems with the file. I don’t think there’s any way to play it back properly with VLC, for instance.

In MPC, make sure to install and enable MadVR for proper playback. I went from 16 FPS to full speed (and apparently being able to decode a few hundred fps), so it makes a difference.

Others have reported that the latest PowerDVD works fine.

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#1208610
Topic
4k77 released
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pittrek said:

towne32 said:

dahmage said:

pittrek said:

Funny, I’m at work right now so I can’t post any screenshots but there is a chance that it was caused by XBMC or my TV? Weird that it was doing that only in that one scene, but since I am the only person who reported it the problem is probably on my side. So thanks again for your hard work guys, it’s much better than the SSE and this comes from a person who LOVES the SSE 😃

Your TV could be doing temporal processing if you have it playing at 120 fps, etc

Yes. Always make sure kodi switches the refresh rate of your display.

That option is right next to one that conforms the media to the refresh rate. Make sure that isn’t pressed.

And if your program is still called Xbmc instead of kodi, update it. 😃

No, thanks. There is a reason why I am still using XBMC 😃 They broke the m3u video playlists, which I unfortunately need and I haven’t found an alternative (yet).

Well, in any case, use the change refresh rate option if it’s present in those old builds.

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#1208609
Topic
4k77 released
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GZK8000 said:

poita said:

So yes, if you were in a good cinema in 1977, and you were lucky enough to see a really good print, there still were many scenes where the inky blackness of space was a bit green, or a bit blue, or a bit grey, and the level of blackness varied considerably shot to shot.
Now, back in '77 you probably didn’t notice, because your mind was busy being blown by the visuals, but the optical shots really stand out, both in their heavier grain levels, and varying colour and sharpness. Not just the blacks either, the colours across the board vary a lot shot-to-shot on the original prints.

Does this mean that Mike Verta’s color correction is revisionist, since in his restoration the blacks are really blacks, and that would not be representative of how Star Wars looked in theaters in 1977?

I don’t believe anyone has seen Mike Verta’s final color grade.

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#1208556
Topic
4k77 released
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dahmage said:

pittrek said:

Funny, I’m at work right now so I can’t post any screenshots but there is a chance that it was caused by XBMC or my TV? Weird that it was doing that only in that one scene, but since I am the only person who reported it the problem is probably on my side. So thanks again for your hard work guys, it’s much better than the SSE and this comes from a person who LOVES the SSE 😃

Your TV could be doing temporal processing if you have it playing at 120 fps, etc

Yes. Always make sure kodi switches the refresh rate of your display.

That option is right next to one that conforms the media to the refresh rate. Make sure that isn’t pressed.

And if your program is still called Xbmc instead of kodi, update it. 😃

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#1208541
Topic
4k77 released
Time

pittrek said:

I’m just watching the 1080p version from myspleen right now and I absolutely love what I’ve seen so far.Great work guys!
But … is it really a non-DNVR version? I have noticed one weird shot - when the stormtroopers attack Tantive IV and are rushing through the whole in the door - it really looks like every trooper leaves a trail of himself while he moves, like that shot went through an extensive temporal denoising.

screenshot?

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#1208355
Topic
4k77 released
Time

Ronster said:

ZigZig said:

LD Mitsubishi
LD Mitsubishi SWE

Not trying to take anything away from the achievement of your release but wow! Never seen anything of the Mitsubishi version…

I think that one looks the best color in my opinion on that shot.Obviously far less detail, but Curious What the rest of it is like.

Fancy doing another shot for fun?

Did anyone else vouch for going with the Mitsubishi color grading on this part? Although you went for an average I guess did anyone call this one the best reference?

This definitely seems like a topic for a new thread. I can’t say with certainty, but I’m pretty sure no one floated the idea of going with the “Mitsubishi grading” for this project, or possibly any other.

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#1208078
Topic
4k77 released
Time

rodneyfaile said:

I want! I want!

How does it look compared to the most recent Harmy?

Now I just have to figure out how to get it!

It’s not easy to compare them directly. The color is pretty different at times. But it’s graded in a per-reel way instead of per-shot, so there is much less user-introduced bias for shots and scenes in 4K77.

The video quality is very high compared to the SSE. Lower than the blu-ray, but more consistent than Despecialized, and in a small number of shots, higher quality. There is a lot of grain, and you’ll see the natural excess of grain on effect/composited shots in 4K77.

There are still stray scratches, dirt, etc, here and there. But it’s minimal, and the cleanup is pretty great. Still, some people can’t stand seeing even a small amount of that.

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#1207917
Topic
4k77 released
Time

KillThad said:

The color grading still needs some work IMO, but this is still incredibly impressive.

It’s a whole reel grade, which is a good method to not introduce bias as to how you think it should look. I don’t think it could look too much better than it already does with that approach (and it looks great).

There will surely be a few shot by shot regarded to choose from eventually.

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#1207688
Topic
4k77 released
Time

img1

Like any “future SE” shots, these ones always tend to catch my eye. I’m not sure if I’m imagining things, but these shots of R2 tend to look really soft compared to their surrounding shots and the rest of the scene as a whole.

I first thought this with the 2004 HDTV preservation, lining it up against the blu-ray. Easy to shrug off because it’s a bit lower quality than the disc, of course. But other shots don’t really seem that soft when compared directly.

But it seems, to me at least, this way on film as well. Is it possible that there’s something weird with these shots? Blown up from a larger frame, or shot separately from the rest of the scene? There have been numerous other cases (some pointed out by Mr. Verta, for example) where we had previously just assumed changes were made because “why the hell not?”, and there turned out to be a plausible technical snag that they may well have been trying to cover.

Or maybe I’m just imagining things. 😃

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#1207172
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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doubleofive said:

I think that AMC’s show “James Cameron’s Story of Science Fiction” used DE as a source for their theatrical shots.

https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1207024/action/topic#1207024

Discussing it over in that thread, but I think it’s possibly not from 2.7. Either from another TN1 release (one that’s better quality than the original release I used), or another high quality scan?

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#1207171
Topic
AMC Visionaries: James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction
Time

As the person that further cleaned/degrained/color corrected that shot for 2.7, I certainly do need to point out that it’s originally derived from TN1’s Silver Screen Edition.

Edit: Wait, the bottom one is from the documentary? It looks cleaner and less compressed.

There were later, higher bitrate releases of the SSE after I did 2.7. It could be from that. Or those specs of dust could be in the negative, and it’s another film source? In any case, it doesn’t look like it’s from 2.7 directly if I’m looking at this right.