towne32

I think the mods have been a bit more accommodating lately due to the anticipated influx of people due to TFA. And some of us have been answering those questions a bit more, since it seems likely that more than one person will benefit from it. But it does end up getting asked every couple of pages through the thread.

It really wouldn’t even have been of much consequence a couple months ago, but now we actually have Harmy giving us updates in his threads. So I can see why you might be frustrated.

They’re already supposed to be posting in the ‘how-to’ section, I think.

The issue is most of these people, as well as those asking for links, are doing so immediately after registering and either don’t know or couldn’t care less about the correct way to ask.

But yeah, I agree that a stickied thread might be better for visibility. And it’s probably true that people with A/V questions are much more willing to ask their questions in the appropriate place once they know where that is (as opposed to download questions, which will simply be dropped anywhere prefixed with ‘sorry’).

Suggestion: Don’t use the same title as Hal. Someone might accidentally download yours and come to this forum to complain.

Cool.

Time zone? (edit: doesn’t matter, I guess, at this point in the day).

edit2: Oh, you removed it.

edit3: I guess that counts as peeking.

althor1138 said:

Harmy said:

Well, actually, ISO may be a little better, since it’s easier not to screw up the burning process. But content-wise, definitely the same thing.

I haven’t been paying attention to the BD projects here in this thread but thought I should mention that if you have integrated (real) seamless branching somewhere on the disc then it is imperative that you burn from the disc image in order to maintain the physical disc layout and prevent skipping during playback of the branches. With the right authoring software it will interleave the 2 branches so that they occupy a similar space on the disc to prevent the laser from having to bounce around. Otherwise, yeah, about the same thing.

True. LBA matters for these kind of things. But it doesn’t really matter as far as homebrew discs go. Not a single member here has gotten seamless branching working successfully on a blu-ray disc. Or, if they have, they have kept it to themselves.

imail724 said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

Ben-Solo said:

I was wondering if let’s say I wanted to burn these onto a BD-RW what would you recommend Harmy? I want to make sure this is burnt properly on a BD for the best viewing experience on an HDTV.

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/784975#TopicPost784975

Hmm… I just burned these a few days ago without seeing this post. I used TSMuxer to output to Blu-Ray Disc then just burned the ISO with Imgburn. The disc played fine as far as I can tell. What would be the advantage of doing it your way? Was there a loss of quality in the way I did it?

ISO output vs folders? No, it’ll be the same thing.

DrCrowTStarwarsreborn said:

Hey does anyone have any idea what is going on with this project. After working so hard on the first two movies I would understand if Harmy didn’t have time to do any more with this one but if there is a Bluray version being worked on I would love to know so I can complete my set, thanks.

Read anything over the last month. It is being worked on.

Cool.

Not sure what format the actual video is, but remuxing to m2ts would likely increase your options.

yoda-sama said:

All this talk of calibration or the ways you guys might like to archive stuff or make boxes, etc. is not coming from anything he’s said, but what you like to do. Let’s get his actual requirements first, and then see if any of our preferences fit his needs before we push anything else on him.

I’m totally with you on that. These things we have said have been in direct response to your question about why anyone would choose blu-ray. They should not be applied to his situation, necessarily.

We were in the midst of trying to get him to understand the different options, and what the requirements are for each of them. He has been getting his wires crossed with all of the various options, so we were trying to make it more clear for him before this tangent occurred.

yoda-sama said:

towne32 said:

I have all of these options at my disposal. First of all, any streaming option that downsamples the video is straight out of the question.

As my PS3 is hacked to play MKVs and use NTFS drives, that is the most straight forward way to play them and often what I do. For things that I intend to keep as long as possible, I burn to BD-R to put on the shelf and keep as a physical backup to whatever HDD(s) it may be on. It also allows for portability so I can easily bring it to a friend’s house, or make a 1:1 copy to give to a friend in some cases.

I didn’t say anything about downsampling, the whole point of using a computer is to avoid that, even the FireTV Stick option I stated to sideload Kodi, which plays the file straight, not downsampled like Plex or something along those lines would do.

And it is great that you have a hacked PS3 as your straight forward way to play files, but you do realize that this is very much the equivalent of having a PC dedicated to being a straight forward way to play files… It is the exact same point I was making, just with a slightly different hardware choice.

edit: nevermind

FrankT said:

towne32 said:

FrankT said:

Anyone seen the njvc BD-25 yet?

Holding out for Darth Lucas’s due to it including some color correction (though I’m sure that will eventually be replaced by one of the 3.0 versions).

Which is that now?

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Custom-Blu-Ray-Set/id/17986

yoda-sama said:

I only included burning discs in that rant for the times when the convoluted methods people choose involve buying hardware (for burning, playback or–strangely–both). I’m not even against Joey getting a good Blu-ray burner, he should, but he doesn’t sound like he knows what he wants. He sounds like he’s on the fence between burning discs, buying a Blu-ray player with a USB port (seemingly in addition to burning discs), and figuring out how to format a USB drive. He has said nothing I can remember about gifting copies of the DeEd to friends/family or having desire to make a display box for discs. The one concrete bit of information he does offer up is that he has plenty of extra HDMI inputs. I’d say he’s a good candidate for considering just hooking up a computer to his TV and being done with it, unless he does want to do some of those disc-specific uses you mention.

I agree. I’m having a hard time getting him to settle on one medium. I want to present options and he seems to go for more than one of them at a time, so I do not think I am doing a good job. Either way, he has said nothing about having a laptop with HDMI out.

I don’t see how a Blu-ray player connected over HDMI to a TV is supposed to look dramatically different than a PC hooked up the exact same way, I think your calibration comment is moot in this instance.

I strongly disagree.

yoda-sama said:

I ask the world again, how is jumping through all these hoops to burn/play discs (if you have to buy the burners or players) or trying to force the files into things that don’t really want to play them (like smart TVs/Blu-ray players/cable boxes or PS3/4/XBOXes, etc.), considered easier or better than just hooking a computer up to your TV or, better yet, A/V receiver and playing the files unaltered?

Any number of cheap options exist, from hooking up a laptop you already have, buying a super cheap NUC or LIVA, or even grabbing a really inexpensive FireTV Stick and sideloading Kodi…

I have all of these options at my disposal. First of all, any streaming option that downsamples the video is straight out of the question.

Hooking up my laptop by HDMI is a pain in the ass, and means I would need to drag out the corresponding HDD or otherwise store a bunch of 25-50gb images on my laptop, ready to go. I use it to test things, etc. Another problem is the color display calibration is way different from my calibrated TV. So I would need to calibrate another profile for that.

As my PS3 is hacked to play MKVs and use NTFS drives, that is the most straight forward way to play them and often what I do. For things that I intend to keep as long as possible, I burn to BD-R to put on the shelf and keep as a physical backup to whatever HDD(s) it may be on. It also allows for portability so I can easily bring it to a friend’s house, or make a 1:1 copy to give to a friend in some cases.

If you’re going to get the Blu-ray burner, you won’t need the blu-ray player with USB port. Do you already have a blu-ray player? If not, and you find one with usb (I don’t have recommendations, as I don’t have one like that), you can skip the blu-ray burner if you want.

As for the ‘purposes’, I just meant that there are other projects here and on fanedit.org where either blu-ray quality fanedits are made, or movies are preserved in their original format before some type of change was made (as with Star Wars), or the film was never released on blu-ray, etc.

FrankT said:

Anyone seen the njvc BD-25 yet?

Holding out for Darth Lucas’s due to it including some color correction (though I’m sure that will eventually be replaced by one of the 3.0 versions). But I’d be curious to hear how this one turned out.

I do like the simplicity of the main title screen, though.

Yes. WP simply had 1.0 color.

vmancini said:

If I can just add my 2 cents, I think buying a Blu-Ray Burner and converting the .mkv file in
TsMuxer is the safest option by far. Before doing that myself I wound up with AVCHD that would
freeze, work intermittently, etc. (due to compatibility issues with my blu-ray player, no slight
on the despecialized video files obv). Think of it this way. Would you pay $100.00 to have the
OOT on Blu-Ray? If yes, the burner should run you $70-$80 and the discs about $30 (for a stack of 15).
My guess is that anyone on these forums is willing to spend the $100.

Indeed. Plus, I’ve found enough other fanedits and preservations around here to burn to BD that it has been more than worth it, in my opinion. I only got the BD-R drive for OT/FE purposes.

Also, recordable DVD media tend to have poor reflectivity and shelf life, even the better brands. If you stick with Verbatim BD-Rs, they work incredibly well in my experience.

I use this thing: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-External-Blu-ray-SE-506CB-RSBDE/dp/B00JJGFRIQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452194478&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+blu-ray+writer

But, to be clear, this is for writing to blu-ray discs! (BD-R).

In your other post, you want to write to DVD. IF that is true, and you do not want to buy a blu-ray writer, you download the AVCHD versions and burn to DVD9 with a dvd burner and play in a blu-ray player that supports AVCHD (many of them do).

If you want to buy the blu-ray writer, and a few BD-R discs, you’ll end up with somewhat better quality and the ability to play on any blu-ray drive.

moviefreakedmind said:

towne32 said:
You’re talking about the 4K restoration of the 97SE, though, right?

Probably, but no one knows exactly what was restored in that project.

True, no one knows if they restored other elements (ideally to assemble the actual original film). But they did restore the 97, based on the lightsabers.

moviefreakedmind said:

What baffles me more than anything about the original versions of the trilogy is the fact that a restoration was done that had people working on it up until at least summer of 2013 (assuming those people weren’t lying on their resumes). Regardless of whatever versions these are why would they just never release them? Unless they’re waiting for 4K blu ray players to hit the market, which is happening this year.

You’re talking about the 4K restoration of the 97SE, though, right?

SilverWook said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Important-Message-Regarding-Team-Accounts/id/18184

thumbsup

They’ve been drifting out of their threads lately, but it’s usually been on good behavior and the posts are at least somewhat to do with their projects. But this is practically at the level of their ‘4k and/or blu-ray will fail’ editorials.

Plus, since this post was done by negative1 himself, he could have just made it under his old account.

No. I think it’s my fault for trying to discuss too many options in single posts.

What format do you want the movies in? We can go from there.

SilverWook said:

There were minute differences in the digital and 35mm presentations of AOTC though. And one documented difference in theatrical prints of ROTS. So it’s not always a cinematic hallucination. 😉

What was the rots variation?

Darth Lars said:
When I watched the movie, it wasn’t until the hologram was switched off that I realised that it had been a hologram of Snoke - that Snoke wasn’t a giant.
If the hologram was changed to get coarser scanlines and be more blue and translucent - like the holograms in the original trilogy - then that would
not only make it more apparent that it is a hologram: it would also hide the badness of the CGI.

Did you not think this was the intentional effect? If you disagree with the need to dupe the audience like that (it’s almost reminiscent of the strange need to trick the audience into knowing who Padme is), then fair enough. But it wasn’t a slipup that he didn’t look entirely like a hologram, the effect seemed to be intended as a bit of a surprise. The only problem with it is the point that it relies on the fact that Snoke’s appearance was kept secret from us, so the gag is a bit ‘meta’ in that sense as they fake out his reveal.

I agree with people who think they’ll go a step further and either make him end up extra small or that perhaps the image we’ve seen was only a proxy of sorts. These would also be dumb gags, but the latter could mean a better looking villain at least. Seeing Snoke as he’s rendered now in person, interacting with other characters might not look so great.