Looks pretty good. I am again impressed with what you’ve done with the color. A little bit of weave and damage, but nothing that should bother someone interested in a 35mm preservation.
Is the grain cleaned up at variable levels depending on the shot, or is what we’re looking at all representative of the original print?
Interesting that there was an actual splice at the Han shooting scene. I knew you guys replaced it with the Eastman version, but didn’t know why.
As it’s the only one missing, do you suspect that it was intentionally removed and sold/kept separately for some reason?
This was a Spanish print. The Opening Crawl and Greedo’s Subtitles were therefore in Spanish. The previous owner of the print spliced in English versions of both scenes from another print, which was on inferior stock and faded red…
Doh, that should have been obvious. Thanks Rob.
Interesting that there was an actual splice at the Han shooting scene. I knew you guys replaced it with the Eastman version, but didn’t know why.
As it’s the only one missing, do you suspect that it was intentionally removed and sold/kept separately for some reason?
Edit: Also, to clarify your faq/notes: v1.5 is to be the same as far as the video goes, right? Just extra audio tracks and different formats. This thing is essentially finished?
Nice one.
I’ll steal their thunder, then.
It is with great pleasure that we bring this to you:
Presented by : team negative1
Restored to its original brilliance and color
in 1080p with theatrical audio soundtracks.
25G mkv [mp4 contained] 1080p - v1
-video and english audio
25G Bd ISO 1080p - v1.5 [forthcoming]
-video
Audio 1: English 35mm stereo
Audio 2: English 16mm mono
Audio 3: Spanish 35mm mono
9G mkv/mp4 720p v1.5 [forthcoming]
-video and english audio
History : Star Wars was the second print procured
by Team Negative1. 6 x 35mm reels were scanned and archived.
There was 6 reels of a Spanish LPP print, and 5 reels
of a red faded Eastman print, and 1 further reel 5 with
10 minutes.
The LPP had minimal damage, but more on the heads and tails.
There was a constant amount of dust and dirt throughout.
There were no splices except for the original crawl, and
Han shoots first scene.
Technical : Scan was in 2k, and resulted in a HD 1080p version.
Later, select shots were rescanned in 4k, along with the rest
of the LPP print. This was not used as the workflow was already
1080p.
Compatibility :
At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and no subtitles.
Not done:
Future : There are advanced Eastman Kodak prints ready to be
restored. The scans are 4k, but again we are targetting 1080p
for the final release.
==============================================
Spread this movie. show it to your friends. tell people you are watching the original star wars!
We are happy to share it with you, because we enjoyed it also… and we hope you will.
It was a labor of love.
But in the end, despite the issues, the time, and money spent. it was all worth it…
We hope that this inspires people, and we especially thank george lucas, and lucasfilm
first and foremost for creating it.
It may have been a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…
But not anymore. we hope to celebrate many more anniversaries with you and
watching it as it was meant to be.
Team Negative1
10/1/2016
It’s the same thing, as far as I can tell.
Would inspecting the coding on a commercial BD that uses it help? I honestly don’t know what people have tried, and it’s a little past my knowledge to try myself.
Yes, we’ve done that. If it wasn’t in this thread, I’m not sure where (this may have started as a tangent in Harmy’s before Darth Lucas started his own).
I’ve heard lots of talk about not being able to figure out seamless branching in various projects here, but is seamless branching on a BD drastically different from that of a DVD. I know the software is different but I have no ideas about how they differ. I’m bringing this up because if they aren’t too different, one could ask Booshman how it works, since he used it on his Superman II: RDC Redux.
Yep. It’s certainly doable on DVD, just not blu-ray.
I’d ask the creator of BDedit how to do it. He’s gotta know!
Report back. 😃
Well that’s odd. I know you were doing it, and from the looks of things, you were actually going to make it work. What went wrong?
The professional software is extremely poorly documented. And there’s nowhere you can turn to online for help, of course. There have been some interesting or promising theories on what to do in BDedit, just nothing that has worked as of yet.
No one? I’m not surprised, that’s about $10,000 to do! Presumably you’ve tried BDedit and Scenarist already?
Yes. There has been some good discussion on the subject here (more than I can find anywhere online), but no success.
Would it be possible to combine discs one and four for each film, at least to an extent? I can’t imagine the films alone weigh that much on a BD. Maybe a BD-50 version can do it?
That would be especially tricky for ANH as, if I’m not mistaken, no one has gotten seamless branching working. The 77 and 81 crawls are going to need to be separate encodes of the film, likely requiring a BD50 for that reason alone.
If Schorman’s versions aren’t ready, KK650’s are a nice alternative. They are sourced from the Blu-Ray, but with DVD-esque color. It means you get also get the benefit of extra moss in that one shot of the hut on Kashyyyk in Revenge of the Sith (such a big deal I know) and the theatrical wipe in ROTS as well.
KK650’s versions are all very good. But he has a very unique take on color. I don’t think graphical glitches that so far only Schorman has noticed are reasons to not use his v1 releases. For II and III you really can’t beat the color of the DVD/HDTV releases.
Schorman is releasing a version of RoTS with the missing wipe as well.
I’d also like to make an inquiry about those time-limited reel preview links.
I have SW reels 1 and 3 and ESB reels 1, 4-6. Am I missing any besides SW reel 2?
It’s hard to say, as there were a number of SW reel 3 improvement releases I think.
Hi there, and welcome. V4 for Episodes 2 and 3 have been nearly finished for a while, and I’m just waiting on a few key resources. The biggest is Schorman’s V2 HDTV source material update, but I may forego this if I don’t hear anything after getting all the other bits and pieces ready; I’ve never noticed any issues at all with his V1 and am very happy with it. And they’ll have commentaries too.
I never noticed any problems either. He mentioned there being lots of graphical glitches, though. And it sounded like a whole lot of work for him to go through and fix them frame by frame.
As for Yoda’s fighting: For many people who were fans for 22 years prior, seeing Yoda as a wise old sage, it was not fitting to see him flipping around doing acrobatics. I think people would have been happy to see him fighting with force powers. But it really doesn’t make sense to have him limping with a cane one second, and then capable of massive physical feats the next. The issue isn’t really that he drew a lightsaber, but that in order to make him able to fight a human sized foe, Lucas needed to have him jumping and such.
How much did River Phoenix, (who also played Ford’s son in The Mosquito Coast) or Sean Patrick Flanery copy Ford?
Flanery looks darn good for 50, and could be a good pick to Indy again, if they don’t take the character back before TOD. There’s all the years between TLC and KOTCS to play in.
I thought they said they’re not planning on recasting Jones. Spielberg wants old Harrison back and they’ll probably have a new, younger star, like they tried (and failed) to do last time).
Also, the Death Star is back in V4 (as of last we heard, at least).
But if I’m not mistaken, the only notable change (aside color and audio) between 97 and 04 for Jedi is Hayden’s ghost am I correct, or am I overlooking something?
Also the 2004 version added more CGI celebration scenes.
And eyebrows, and other probably things.
If you’re going to make your own RoTJ97, the hardest part will definitely be rotoscoping the celebration shot to remove Naboo and remove the Jedi Temple. I really don’t think the available 97 sources are good enough to just drop in. I think the rest can be taken from Harmy’s 2.0 and 2004. The 97 DTS audio is on myspleen, synced to a sample video encode of the 97SE.
Also, the 2004/2011 RoTJ will need extensive color correction.
For ESB, I think Adywan’s would work pretty well. Harmy says there are some things he forgot to remove from the 2004, but I haven’t seen a list of what’s wrong. I personally like the color of Adywan’s 97, whether or not it’s terribly accurate.
That list of names is freaking awful. Jack Reynor or Scott Eastwood are the only interesting contenders on the list but the role should obviously go to Anthony Ingruber. If he’s not cast and someone the likes of Miles Teller is, that’s a clear sign the film will be a disaster.
I agree that the list is bleak, but there’s no way Ingruber should get the role for being a decent lookalike/soundalike.
Yes, there was a bit more, but it wasn’t a big piece of information and I don’t know if I should have shared so I didn’t. So nothing happened then?
As far as I can tell, no nothing is there.
ok, now i wanna know what it was.
Nothing crazy. Just something that made me excited and thinking a release would occur last night but obviously that was not the intention.
I missed something cool, didn’t I.
There was just a teaser photo of the Star Wars logo. Nothing too major.
There was slightly more to it than that, but I assume they don’t want it posted. It also doesn’t really make sense to post at this point, because it was for yesterday’s date. That or November 1st.
Wouldn’t matter if you’re burning it to a DVD-R anyway. But the question would of course arise, why is your only version of the film 720p?
When I …
That’s what I was alluding to. This is not welcome here.
A workprint is scheduled to release 30th February ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Just in case I can’t quote it later.
Wouldn’t matter if you’re burning it to a DVD-R anyway. But the question would of course arise, why is your only version of the film 720p?
Alternatively: Is it just me or have people been using the term DVD and BD interchangeably over the past few days? Is this some thing with the youths where they just call all of the old people’s non-streaming formats on the shiny discs “DVDs”?
I thought you meant our two posts and was looking forward to seeing my suggestion implemented in Audacity.