LPP stands for Lowfade Positive Print stock. It was introduced by Kodak in 1982.
Since he seems not to be aware, this is the print Team Negative 1 used for their SSE release.
Myspleen will definitely delete the torrent. I would just hang on to the files for now. I’m sure at some point in the future they will be acceptable.
Yes, that’s a great point. Though I wasn’t necessarily talking about whether or not the support was public knowledge as much as the fact that the Republic has been painted to be on its way towards corruption and seemingly refusing to listen to Leia. Most likely, the Resistance has the support of some powerful members of the senate, but not the Senate/Republic as a whole.
I think this is probably why some people were confused about what exactly the role of the Resistance was. It seems pretty reasonable to assume at first that they are an official special ops type group based on the crawl and lack of other information (until Hux’s line).
Having just watched the film on blu-ray, I must say I really am very happy with it the way it is. One of my few complaints is about the score. And by that I just mean I think it should be much louder at times. Unlike a lot of people here, I think the score itself is fantastic.
One thing that did catch my eye, though, is the line in the crawl: “With the support of the REPUBLIC, General Leia Organa leads a brave RESISTANCE.” Is that really the case? The relationship between the two was admittedly ambiguous in this film. And that’s something I’m less critical about after considering that the state of the senate is similarly mostly glossed over in the first Star Wars film.
However, the deleted scenes and novelization and various other canon sources were painting a picture of the Resistance operating below the Republic’s radar. And in fact, the Republic was well on its way toward corruption to the point that Leia considered it too dangerous to visit the senate in person. So I had to re-read that crawl line twice to make sure it didn’t say “Without the support of the REPUBLIC,”. What gives? Were they just trying to simplify things?
Makes sense to me! And I think that’s probably exactly how it should be - Despecialized being hand-adjusted (in this case by Neverar) and the LPP using your great tool to show what it really and honestly contains.
Although this is kind of off topic to bring up, your post suggests that Williarob is going to use Poita’s scan for more than just the light-leak shots. That’s great news, as far as image quality is concerned, but it’s a ton more work involved than the former.
I must say I prefer the corrections in done earlier and shown in the first post. But good job nonetheless!
Right. Just wasn’t sure if those kind of features might have been a bit too sophisticated for one of the earlier DCPs in 2002.
Yeah, I don’t know much about them. I’m sure modern day ones do things like expire and have great encryption and a million ways of watermarking things. 2002 though? Maybe less crazy. But I’ve never heard of someone having such a thing.
Anyway, Padme’s lines were indeed changed. We have the titular Centropy telesync as well as lossless DTS CD rips to confirm that. The “uh huh” change is simply differently dubbed. “To be angry is to be human” is a different cut. Changes the scene length and cuts a few frames from the shot before and the start of the next scene. Not to mention changes the characterization and relationship. Or at least makes her idiocy more obvious.
And the only thing I think we know for sure about the DCP release is that it had the animated robotic hand. It’s not known if it has the extra speeder. Presumably the Padme lines that were changed later that year for DVD (‘is to be human’ and ‘uh huh’) were the same between DCP/35mm, since those scenes were panned by critics and it would have come up if there were different versions to be seen (and this also explains why they were indeed tweaked for the DVD).
A 35mm print would settle whether or not Jango had extra sparks added to his jet pack, but I think people are mostly in agreement that there’s no difference. Seems like just a weird assumption or false memory.
The only changes I’m certain of are the robotic hand and the Padme lines. I’m around 80% sure those speeders were taken out during the Coruscant chase, but the sparks from Jango’s jet pack are a very far stretch.
Are you talking about the DCP or just describing eventual changes?
If eventual (DVD, HDTV, etc) those are indeed all changes, including the speeder (I’ve checked) except probably for the sparks.
If DCP, I really don’t think there’s any way of knowing. There is absolutely no way anyone remembers whether or not an extra speeder was there for a couple frames. 😃 We know about the hand because it was mentioned in contemporary reviews well before the DVD came out. As I said before, I would be surprised if Padme’s lines were not mentioned at that same time. Could the DCP have used the same DTS files we have access to? Or they would include their own audio?
I watched it 16 times in the cinema and don’t remember seeing the rotating monkey animation. I haven’t seen it on home formats yet.
Guess you kind of burnt yourself out on it? 😄
(Actually, I haven’t seen it since VHS, despite owning it on blu-ray)
Nice of you to consider it but going by his assistance to comedians paying homage to his performance I can’t imagine him minding.
Yeah, I just wanted to mention that that I didn’t come up with it because of or in light of his death. 😃
Was watching Despecialized 2.5 last night in preparation for the TFA blu-ray and hearing Ackbar’s line made Yoda’s atrocious phrase pop into my head (unfortunately).
Requiem works well on PC too (have only done SD material, personally).
And the only thing I think we know for sure about the DCP release is that it had the animated robotic hand. It’s not known if it has the extra speeder. Presumably the Padme lines that were changed later that year for DVD (‘is to be human’ and ‘uh huh’) were the same between DCP/35mm, since those scenes were panned by critics and it would have come up if there were different versions to be seen (and this also explains why they were indeed tweaked for the DVD).
A 35mm print would settle whether or not Jango had extra sparks added to his jet pack, but I think people are mostly in agreement that there’s no difference. Seems like just a weird assumption or false memory.
Well, It allowed us to figure out in advance what shots need to be changed should a print ever become available. If only certain reels are available or can be afforded, etc, that might matter. But I suspect having the whole scan in HD would reveal a few more small changes. McCallum suggested there were many more than we’ve found. Though he was obviously schooled in Lucas level dishonesty, so who knows.
Admiral Ackbar: “Once the shield is down, our cruisers will a perimeter create”
Edit: damn timing. RIP 😦
Yeah, I have zero experience in the color correction area but now that I kept looking at those screencaps and compared it to the Blu-ray, the “yellow ones” got my vote because the red tone in the originals started to remind me of a sunburn, haha! : D
My advice with color correction is not to go looking for problems. 😃 Whether or not they’re there, you will see them when you look hard enough, and you can never get anything looking 100% perfect. Some things leap out at you with how off they look (Man of Steel, some of the LOTR versions, ANH, etc), and this film doesn’t do that for me. But we all have our own opinions on what’s too far, of course.
Has anyone checked out the regraded TFA yet? I stumbled upon it in “teh place” about 10 minutes ago. The screencaps looked pretty nice (the skin tone comparisons).
Looks like it was deleted. Makes sense.
Edit: Managed to find some screencaps, though. It’s standard KK type color preferences, where the red tones are taken out of skin. Ends up looking too yellow or desaturated for my personal preference, but it’s very consistent with his normal corrections so I’m sure a lot of people will like it.
I don’t know much about the formats they use or if it’s possible to unlock and decrypt the files (or if you need to do some sort of manual capture). But the quality will be much, much lower than that of a blu-ray.
You can always buy a USB blu-ray drive. I can’t imagine it’s too pricey if you don’t even need burning capability.
It will be on myspleen and tehparadox.
This is absolutely awesome, but I don’t have access to “Spleen” 😦
Is there a kind soul out there, who could help me out with an invite?
I’m feeling pretty helpful today. You should check your inbox.
With that being said, I don’t think this is the place to ask for invites, so if anybody else wants an invite you should ask elsewhere.
True. Though I agree more so because I think OT and Myspleen are both opposed to the constant invite brigade coming from this forum. Doesn’t really bother me personally in this thread, since it is so low traffic anyway.
But to anyone thinking of asking for an invite: it isn’t up there yet and it should be available via other means anyway.
It would be really interesting if Lucas was being dishonest about his edits at that point in time. Rather than just having let his fame and fortune go to his head, it would really paint him to be more the pathological liar. And no one would have really judged him or cared, at the time, if he had made changes to THX. If he was trying to convince anyone, it was himself. Which is interesting to keep in mind when listening to him in cases like the SW blu-ray commentary, where almost every sentence out of him is a justification of some sort. I always assumed those justifications were aimed at the audiences, but perhaps it’s for himself as well.
I’d like to know if the compression during the Episode IV opening crawl is better on the single file version as opposed to the one with the crawl options. The starfield looks a bit pixelated on the latter.
Thanks.
Well, there won’t be a dual boot option for 2.7, but for 2.6:
No, the bitrate is actually higher for that version than for the MKV, because there are no DTS-HD audio tracks. However, there are some more artifacts present in the ANH intro (for both that MKV and the dual). Didn’t really seem to be the case during the crawl, but rather during the flyover. I think it’s due to the color correction having increased saturation, combined with the blue glare present in the 2004/2011 master.
I’ll probably do a limited release of the ANH 2.7 MKV. I used the blu-ray as source rather than Respecialized. It’s a little lighter on the artifacts but still not perfect.
Looking forward to this! Will it be released on the same paradoxical site as Harmy’s original version as well?
Yep! Harmy said he’d put it up there once everything is confirmed to be fine and a comparison gallery is made.
If you want to stream A New Nope Orange and Teal Edition via chromecast, the pixelated transcoded version will actually be perfectly appropriate to give it that 2016 low-bitrate look.
Well, you’re ensuring that time dies a slow and painful death with a topic as shitty as that one. 😛