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- #934507
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- Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/934507/action/topic#934507
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Can I just chime in to say that I don’t care what this guy does?
If so: I don’t care.
Can I just chime in to say that I don’t care what this guy does?
If so: I don’t care.
So wait, what’s been changed?
Incidentally, amazing. Even with George Lucas gone (no offense), they’re still making changes.
Poor mixing is unfortunate, but it’s not really the same thing as intentional revisionism.
Your algorithm won’t work on scenes that are intentionally filtered a certain color, right? Just wondering for the debate of how blue Hoth night shots should be.
edit: oops
Behold, the ms paint http://i.imgur.com/yNIBAJS.png
Edit: well, I can barely see the cresent thing now. But it was clear in the google preview.
Here it is. Finally uploaded.
1981 Crawl v1.5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2bJjDvnfW0YeWYtbExFaW5FbTg/view?usp=sharing
Well, you’ve done a great job with the logo and crawl. Very, very nice. However, I would say there are a few problems with the interface of the bottom and top parts of the starfield that need addressing. You may need to crank up your brightness to see it all.
The stars on the bottom half seem much larger, brighter, and spaced out. That might be correct, though. I’m not sure and it’s not a huge deal.
More importantly, the seam between the top and bottom has what seems to be a vertically compressed strip of stars. edit: I think I’m describing this wrong and it’s the same difference between top and bottom sticking out here.
Most importantly, there’s a box on the left right with very bright ‘blacks’ and artifacts.
To the right of the moon, there’s a crescent shape of grey junk. Is that supposed to be there?
Also worth keeping in mind that yotsuya has built the 1981 starfield himself as well. So he might be worth asking for advice and materials.
Interesting, I did not know that. I stand corrected.
However, this being the case, I hope you won’t mind if I use your '81 Crawl for SSE version 1.5?
Maybe you could use his starfield with your everything else?
If you took the crawl from the '97 version then isn’t that the '97 Crawl (where the Star Wars Logo races quickly away instead of slowly as it did in '77 and '81)?
I recently restored the actual '81 Crawl from an Eastman 35mm Print for use in v1.5 (This is the same one that was distributed with the SSE, but which at that time still had almost no stars. The Fox Logo, Long Time Ago, Pan Down and Flyover are all SSE, but the Star Wars logo and complete Crawl are taken directly from the Eastman print, stabilized and placed on top of the SSE star field…
If you need a version with less compression let me know.
That composition is quite nice, and the 1981 text is in great shape, and stable now. But as DL says, the issue is the starfield presumably. I wonder if you can grab the starfield from your own ESB scans somehow, if not from the actual 1981 intro.
Interestingly, I think the version you’ve created is most similar to the 1997 edition (1981 crawl text and speed with 1977 starfield). 😃
The GOUT audio isn’t important, it’s a standard for synchronization purposes, and contains all known frames, I think. So if you sync your video to it, you can use any of the many tracks available.
What happens to the uncorrected 35mm Rancor shots with your process? I know Harmy had a tough time dealing with the very different brownish home video versions and blueish film versions.
It really had the feel of George just putting his foot down and saying ‘this is for me. you can’t tell me what to do’. Same as ‘weesa free’ in that regard. It was the most ridiculed moment of RoTS, a film which was relatively well enjoyed by the public. And he carried it over to RoTJ because he can, and because it fits his revisionist narrative of the entire saga being about Vader’s redemption.
E.T. 20th Anniversary Edition HD sounds reasonable. It’s not quite a remastering or a preservation. It’s a reconstruction in a way, but only in the sense that many HD shots are being replaced with less compressed HD shots.
edit: Oh, no plans for a menu (though the release does need a title anyway). If someone wants to make one that’s fine. But I was just planning for a blu-ray compatible MKV.
Do we have special features that are missing from the BD release? It might be a nice idea if there are some about the making of the SE. Just attaching the extra part of the credits for all the people who worked on the 20th, it was a fair bit of work that went into this very silly production.
Substantially better! It’s a tricky and inconsistent scene in many versions and projects, but good job!
Looks very nice. Any samples from Ben’s hut?
Use deleted scenes but add in several other timecodes.
Just paste other ones over the TFA timer. Shot clocks? ‘60 Minutes’ timer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMBzh9wvGAc ?
Of course. Everyone is eligible. Maybe we can do multiple sizes, but my intention is to do a Blu-ray sized release. These projects, especially 1080p ones, aren’t worth the trouble if you don’t do that. 😃
During this next week I think.
Spleen should allow it, I think. I’m going to send it to you guys first to check it.
This is about 1/3 done. Everything is synced (inserted 2x deleted scenes from BD, removed shotgun) and ‘specialized’ about 40 minutes worth. Had to adjust the contrast of the 20th footage since it was a bit washed out looking, which really shows off the pixelation of the rip in night scenes. But yeah, two shots so far seem to have some corrupted video going on, so the other rip will be helpful. 😃
The container (MKV vs. m2ts) isn’t really important, since they hold the same kind of audio and video. AVCHDs (which are m2ts) are size limited because they are designed to be able to burn to a dual layer DVD. So, in this case, the difference is an ~8gb file vs ~20gb and different video bitrates and audio quality.
If you give it a week or so, it’ll be available in the normal places, otherwise you have to suffer getting a 20GB file through MEGA (I experienced many failures and then shameful security concessions to see it through…).
Alright. I was just wondering because I was planning to have some friends over this Saturday night and I wanted to screen the Despecialized edition(of Star Wars) for the first time, so I was hoping to get the most recent version out.
Well, I PMed you about it to see if you wanted the AVCHD. But now it looks like I’ve run out of time to get it to you before Saturday. My MKV link is down but maybe one of the kind people who has downloaded it would be willing to send it to you somehow?
Actually if you only know his website at http://starwarslegacy.com/archive/ the articles were written for a completely different project.
Yes, now I realized that. That’s the URL in the subject of this thread so I thought one might have something to do with the other. 😃
Well, the forums over there are still relevant at least.
Hmm, maybe the other copy would be useful for a few parts. There are a few corrupted frames it seems.
Yes should be very soon, sorry for the delay.