Actually if you only know his website at http://starwarslegacy.com/archive/ the articles were written for a completely different project.
Yes, now I realized that. That’s the URL in the subject of this thread so I thought one might have something to do with the other. 😃
Well, the forums over there are still relevant at least.
Hmm, maybe the other copy would be useful for a few parts. There are a few corrupted frames it seems.
Yes should be very soon, sorry for the delay.
I could use just pixels from Star Wars and make a giant animated penis out of it… still restoration? ok, I’m starting to troll but I seem to have a much stricter interpretation of the term than most people here.
Okay, so instead of your trolling comment, what do you think about registering the prints so that they’re correctly aligned and using pixels from one print that repair damage that is specific to another print? I don’t see how that is not restoration. It’s better than most restorations, even professional ones, that use pixels from adjacent frames to patch the damage.
I’m not sure how strict you’re talking about (scan it and leave it 100% alone?). That would be a preservation of a specific print the way it was seen after x amount of viewings and the damage that came along with all those viewings. If that’s what you consider a restoration, it’s pretty good that Mike isn’t doing it, because it’s a terrible idea for a restoration.
Mike isn’t trying to create a faithful duplicate of the original. He is trying to restore the best picture that he can from the sources he has. He is basically doing what Lucas should have done in 97.
Right. And he’s doing so without a single frame or pixel coming from the SE. All of the pixels used to repair are coming from other original 35mm prints. I don’t think there is any question that it’s a restoration. I see how “preservation” could be more debatable and vague. But he’s definitely restoring Star Wars.
@Mavimao
Well, as Maestro said, Mike’s page has a lot of information about what this project used to be (like 10 years ago?) when he was working with Laserdisc sources and so on. The evolution of the project and the rocky start of this thread are why a lot of members, even ones who have been here for years, sometimes find out about what Legacy is much later on. I know I shrugged off this thread for a long time, not really sure of what it was about. Once you read about it and see some of the work, though, holy shit… there’s no going back.
Someone uploaded gout synced video of tn1’s sw and ESB releases just a few days ago, I think.
I hadn’t considered that. They may have been deleted, since they are single frames. It seems odd that they would be though, I haven’t detected any other errors of this nature so far.
Darth Lucas noticed that the lightsaber glitch frame was partially fixed in Ben’s hut. Similar situation. One of their test renders had the top of a jawa’s hood removed. These things happen.
But I admit it seems unlikely that the laser would be 100% removed without artifacts. Still, I don’t know of any other changes like this between theatrical and GOUT so it’s a possible explanation. Or, it may be real.
There’s one very confusingly named thing on spleen which is made from Harmy’s. It is supposedly recolored based on the grindhouse but obviously that’s counterintuitive as that release is red faded.
I think the BD25 of the actual grindhouse release is still there, though negative1 deleted the mkv.
Thanks. Wazzles has sent me the 720p link.
I do need the DTS muxed to the DVD video (or a low quality encode of the video with the same sync) to make sure the end video will synchronize.
Could they have accidentally been cleaned out of the SSE? If they’re single frame flashes they might’ve been detected as damage?
Maybe poita can comment about how his other scans look, even if SSE does indeed lack the lasers.
I would use the Blu-ray as a base and upscale the 720 as needed and then use the DTS track as the main audio. Watch out because the 720 isn’t cropped as much as mine is and is a slightly off AR. You might need to crop.
Yes, I agree.
And I generally use a correctly cropped workspace anyway, and simply add the black bars at the rendering stage. So issues with the AR should be obvious while working.
Thanks for checking it out!
Secondly, Poita has a full scan of the movie that he has done independently that is red faded and Dre is working on obtaining it?
He has multiple scans, including Technicolor and the LPP. But I think he does have an Eastman one, too, which would be faded. Do you just mean to test Dre’s algorithm?
Poita has done cleanup work on the THX film with high dollar software… so would his scan be “cleaned” like his THX sample or will it be “raw/grindhouse”?
Eventually, that would of course be ideal.
I agree. I should mention that when I pointed out that some people have an issue with those shots, I’m not really one of the people who cares.
I’d love a similar copy of BTTF2. If the Pitbull logo is miscolored I would not turn it down. 😃
Yeah. Microsoft has been doing this since the first Xbox, which they made unable to read music on CD-Rs, but fine for regular CDs.
I really don’t know about the Sanyo player. I don’t think it’s a common problem as it was with DVD-Rs. BD-Rs are a better, more reflective medium than the previous generation of purple discs.
Well, it really should be in the ‘how to’ section. There are some threads that at least have some relevancy such as techniques for producing edits and stuff. But, as you say, you only did this for exposure. That’s a bad reason, so it’ll probably be moved.
Anyway, as far as I know, the Microsoft intentionally made the X1 not read BD-R video discs in order to avoid piracy. But if the case with the Sanyo player is just that it’s a cheapo drive that doesn’t read the discs well, you can try using better media like Verbatim discs.
Definitely better than I expected could be done. Needs a little work, but it still takes it from unusable to usable. As you probably know, you can see a horizontal line through the middle of part of it, and then more importantly at the 4 second mark there’s a diagonal line that kind of passes through the whole thing from right to left. The former I wouldn’t have seen if I was just watching Kylo, but the latter drew my eye. But this is great even if it can’t be further improved.
For some strange reason I doubt a reputable movie theater would do that with prints loaned to it.
Also: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/OT-Special-Editions-to-have-USA-Roadshow-Summer-16/id/49325
Right. And there’s really no need to worry about the fact that there’s no way they’re going to let us scan their prints.
Other 97SE prints have been available from time to time. ANH has been scanned at least once. In general, the SE prints are surely in better shape than the originals. Plus they’re not faded, of course.
I was thinking more of actual PR agents writing stupid stuff in comments.
I know. I’m just saying that their machine is effective enough to transform real people into folks who post such nonsense. Saves themselves the effort of doing that. 😉
Please don’t waste too much time on this - a fully GOUT sync’d v1.5 is already completed, with all the missing frames restored, some additional cleanup, 35mm Spanish Audio, and some problem shots replaced from other sources.
Coming to a galaxy near you, very soon.
That sounds great. So this is closer to what was previously planned for 2.0, and 2.0 is now more of Poita’s scan?
In the sense of a self-replicating PR machine that creates PR machines out of previously innocent fans? Yes. To George’s credit, it’s very sci-fi. 😃
How would you ever know if it was restored to match the print’s color, then? Even when people are able to match the scan to the print by looking at the projected print while they’re doing it, they are of course matching it to a specific bulb (hopefully the correct one). I mean, the print doesn’t even technically have color without a light source to see it. 😉 I think some bias is required because almost 0% of people are going to be watching it with the ‘correct’ type of bulb, even among the lower percentage of people who will be projecting it in some way. But the print itself doesn’t posses some ‘bulbless’ color state that is both objective and correct, does it?
I’m confused, are you releasing theatrical BD video with those tracks alongside the SE?
Harmy is in the news, lol
http://www.wsj.com/articles/star-wars-fans-feel-the-force-calling-them-back-to-original-cuts-1461012670
“Oh. Here’s something that everyone else reported about several months ago. Better have a super late go at it as well?”