towne32

The next shot is great, too, with the copy and pasted stormtroopers on both sides of the road, with identical motions.

Jp4195 said:

towne32 said:

It’s mostly done. Just need to spot check it and actually render it. When I mux it, it will just be muxed to the lossy audio of the HDTV rip. Someone else can come in and mux it to the DTS.

People can then take a look at it. I’d appreciate it if at least one or two people familiar with the changes would make sure nothing is missed.

I could definitely review it and check if anything’s missing, I’ve seen both cuts millions of times being one of my favorite movies of all time I now it inside and out

Great, thanks. And other people can check it out and use the movie-censorship reference to double check my work. But it’s good to have someone who knows the film(s) well. For example, there was a shot of CG ET watching TV, from behind, that wasn’t included on that list. There could be more.

I’m just going to render the full BD25 size video, since I think there’s a good (but not 100%) chance that everything is fine and another render won’t be needed. It’ll just need to be remuxed with the correct audio and then should be ready to go. Should have time to upload it Sunday.

TV’s Frink said:

AHandofJacks said:

Darth Lucas said:

It’s an operating system, not a religion.

Only someone using a Mac would say something like that.

What.

Humor?

I’m not sure that it’s really possible to say much about a difference in the mix when the sound setup and acoustics are as different as they can possibly be. Right?

I agree that the sound mix seems good enough by my ear, though I’m not very sensitive to that kind of thing. The evidence of the center channel dynamic range walling seems pretty clear cut anyway, though.

It’s mostly done. Just need to spot check it and actually render it. When I mux it, it will just be muxed to the lossy audio of the HDTV rip. Someone else can come in and mux it to the DTS.

People can then take a look at it. I’d appreciate it if at least one or two people familiar with the changes would make sure nothing is missed.

I’m pretty sure I tried it. Other programs won’t even continue with the audio tracks present, but I don’t recall what exactly Encore did.

Either way, you shouldn’t need to waste a disc. Just build the iso and test that.

Deloreanhunter12 said:

Ok, I am absolutely lost and confused after reading through the forum. I know that v2.7 is coming soon (possibly this week) and it will definitely be on the spleen, but will it be on paradox?

Yes.

yoda-sama said:

Well, according to what is available on the Spleen, the GOUT synced BD’s of SSE and ESB Grindhouse have all the English tracks you’d expect from the Despecialized edition (plus Portuguese as desired by the uploader), including the DTS-HD MA tracks. Maybe what we should instead be asking is: dear God, HOW did you author these BDs? Also, how many audio and subtitle tracks can this method handle, assuming it has a menu (which it should, if it has selectable crawls)?

It’s very easy to make BDs from MKVs that have compliant streams. That’s what we always do, and that’s why we make the MKVs compatible. Basic menu-less BDs made with tsmuxer can have tons of audio and subtitle tracks. Many of us here have used tsmuxer to make our Star Wars BDs with DTS-HD MA audio.

Seamless branching discs are another issue. Most commercial software seems not to be compatible with our DTS-HD MA tracks we use here (including Adobe Encore, etc). There is a workaround for that, where you can use filler audio tracks (pcm, ac3, whatever), to build your menu’ed disc. Then you can use multiavchd to replace the tracks with DTS-HD MA ones. But multiavchd doesn’t play nicely with seamless branching discs, from what I’ve seen. It just rebuilds entire separate streams for each playlist, I think.

In theory, commercial software like Encore should work with DTS-HD MA. There’s just something about our Star Wars tracks that makes it think they’re 3+ hours long and incompatible. It’s probably something that can be fixed, but I wouldn’t know how to do it.

I just click on the m2ts file and it plays in VLC just fine on my PC.

Navigating folders at all on a mac makes me sad. As does finding if someone bothered to port a piece of software to it. 😃

Definitely what those guys said. Should be pointed out that Hal’s are just very good upscales. There aren’t actually HD versions of the scenes. Anything on youtube claiming to be so isn’t really HD.

_Shorty said:

towne32 said:

In my experience, the DTS-HD tracks we use around here aren’t possible to get working with seamless branching. Many software packages report the wrong run times on those files, for whatever reason, and their compatibility seems somewhat limited. But it is possible that Williarob will have better luck.

(this is why my seamless branching disc just has the dolby digital tracks instead).

Has anyone tried simply reencoding them? DTS-HD is lossless, after all, so you won’t be losing anything. But you might gain some well-behaved files as a result. Or is it DTS-HD itself that has compatibility issues?

I don’t think anyone has tried. It would be worth a shot, but it’s beyond my abilities.

I doubt it’s the format itself. DTS-HD should work with these software packages.

Smithers said:

Are you going to be using the theatrical versions or the special editions? I’d recommend using TN1’s grindhouse/silverscreen versions to better match the outtakes.

I think I’ll be using TeamNegative1’s scan as a base for SW, not sure yet for Empire and Jedi (if I ever even get onto doing those)

Yeah, I agree that the jarring switch from BD footage would ruin the unexpected blooper aspect.

In my experience, the DTS-HD tracks we use around here aren’t possible to get working with seamless branching. Many software packages report the wrong run times on those files, for whatever reason, and their compatibility seems somewhat limited. But it is possible that Williarob will have better luck.

(this is why my seamless branching disc just has the dolby digital tracks instead).

That looks great. While I have no idea what the star positions are supposed to look like, it’s the most seamless and consistent version I’ve seen of it.

I think the bottom left corner was strangely blank in DL’s, but I didn’t know if that was incorrect. Looks like yours does have stars there.

TV’s Frink said:

Ah, that’s a good point.

The TRA crawl could somehow explain how they didn’t actually die.

Well only Luke and Han are strongly implied to be cooked. Could find a funny and dramatic crawl about Han’s survival (or just say it was residual carbonite in the bloodstream?), only to have him die again in TRA. You could just put off figuring out Luke’s deal and make him a Force Ghost at the end of TRA.

Bingowings’s “Cooked by Ewoks” comment in Adywan’s thread had me thinking for an alternate ending:

Remove the Ewok capture/BBQ scene from earlier on. Add it into the ending celebration with yubnub, such that the party escalates rather darkly. End on the pan up from the funeral pyre (in a way that doesn’t clearly show Vader). Sky/fireworks/wipe to credits.

Yeah. I know I’ve been saying ‘soon’ for a while. But I think I’ve managed to get the comparison shots completed so it should actually be quite soon.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

When Greedo shoots Han, the laser goes back and forth on the two walls Han and Greedo were sitting behind before it hits Greedo.

I like this. Cut out all of the shots of Han preparing his gun entirely and make sure that it’s very clear that it’s Greedo’s shot ricocheting back into himself, and not Han firing. Also also cut out “Yes, I bet you have”.

nafroe said:

Lord Starfish said:

Possessed said:

I still thought the BD sound was better than what I heard in theaters. The theater sound didn’t have enough bass, punch, or impact. The star wars theme in the opening crawl didn’t have near the impact I remember it having when I saw ROTS in the same theater. Although it is possible the speakers haven’t been maintained well.

Well, I for one thought the theme sounded kinda weak both in the theater, on the soundtrack CD and on the BD. I think it’s just a matter of the performance itself lacking intensity.
Though I agree with your point about dialogue volume. I tend to find in live action movies (animated films rarely have this issue) that I have to put the subtitles for the hard of hearing on, simply because the dialogue is often drowned out by the sound-effects. And for what it’s worth, I did not have this problem in TFA.

Part of the reason for the perceived lack of intensity is because John Williams did not conduct the opening theme for TFA. They instead brought in a guest conductor, Gustavo Dudamel, who is the conductor for the Los Angeles Philharmonic.

Huh. That’s interesting. I don’t know anything about how to describe music properly, but those first few seconds of the theme did feel weak/bare. After that, it sounds totally fine to me. But admittedly, those first few notes in the opening are iconic.

Why did they have a guest conductor at that point? Though Williams is still talented, perhaps perfect emulation is not something he could pull off either?

I know they re-used the theme from TPM in AoTC. But that may have been since he was pressed for time with AoTC in general. Are there any other films with the main theme re-used, or are the rest original recordings for each film?

Pretty good! The only distracting thing (aside from the ‘box’ I was talking about before) is that the grain on the planet is frozen until the pan is done, and then you see it start all of a sudden.

dkeighobadi said:

And I don’t agree with anyone who says the color was changed.

I don’t want to disagree, but I’m going to have to. The stormtroopers at the beginning that were practically green are now neutral white. I’m sure of it. Even the flags in that comparison photo…

Oh, sorry I might’ve been unclear. The color was definitely changed from the trailers (for the better). I was referring to people who are 100% certain the film’s color was changed overall since the theatrical release.

Thanks for that. Maybe I’ll hold off to see if we can get our hands on it. Should be much better.

yoda-sama said:

If you don’t like a Frink joke, don’t argue it and feed the fire.

I love a Frink Joke [TM]. If he’s just joking, then oops. But when it comes to piracy, he’s pretty damn self-righteous. Technically, we’re all (mostly) pirates. So why not focus on the destructive pirates, since we get a good number of them here anyway?

Frink, for the love of God, do not infringe on a Millennial’s Safe Space, you’ll violate their right of happiness. If they wish to self-identify as being the only strictly legal people/beings on the internet, it is not your place to tell them otherwise.

At least Frink’s jokes make sense. I think you want to be upset about something, so you’re choosing other random aspects of internet culture that piss you off and have nothing to do with anything here.

I like the idea. But it’ll be a pretty low percentage of scenes that have bloopers, right? So it’ll just be the film, mostly intact, but occasionally descending into madness? Or would there be other Frinkish types of silliness implemented throughout? Not sure what I’ll think of it, but I’ll check it out.

TV’s Frink said:

If no one cared there wouldn’t be rules about it here.

And this place would probably have been shut down long ago.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edmundburk377528.html (hyperbolic but relevant)

All of us, except for probably a few in certain countries, are breaking the law by doing this stuff. Frink, you have a thread where you upload fanedits that people request. You’re illegally uploading copyrighted material. I don’t really care where this guy draws his imaginary line in the sand about what’s morally okay in a grey area of morally okay and not okay things. You draw your imaginary line somewhere else. Every time Harmy or TN1 gets mentioned in the popular media, tons of people will flood the comment section saying it’s illegal, because they draw their imaginary lines on top of the DMCA (which is the enforceable type of imaginary line).

Why not save your energy for all the dicks who come here and say they’re sticking it to Georgey and showing the world who is boss by never buying a Star Wars product, including DVDs/BDs? There are cases where there is blatant breaking the spirit and word of the rule, and there are cases where you’re just being an asshole who follows someone around, trolling them.

When someone announces that they intend to follow a different moral code than our rules, it makes sense to clarify where we stand, or to tell them to knock off the discussion about it, or not to use the wrong types of sources in their edits, etc. But you’re following him into other threads with this stuff, when he’s just choosing to break the law in different ways than you choose to break the law (while still buying the Blu-Ray).