towne32

It’s not an ISO. I actually hadn’t realized that so many people were used to ISOs of Despecialized rather than folders, and that there was a bit of a gap in knowledge as far as people knowing the relationship between these two things.

Do you have VLC or a similar media player installed? If so, you can open those folders and in the stream folder, there is an m2ts file that opens in VLC (this is what plays when you have the iso mounted). Right clicking the BDMV folder also gives an option to Play in VLC, I think.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Lol, I usally use TXmuxer for doing stuff, I just tried Handbrake last week.

They’re different tools with different purposes. I agree with Harmy about leaving a 2GB version off of the spleen. No offense. These are the kinds of things people pull from piratebay and then come here and complain about. Since it’s such a tiny file, you could probably just put it on mega.nz or somewhere. If someone comes by looking for such a thing, you could PM them a link to it.

It would definitely be much better to just have the 2.7 DVD-5 posted. Tiny versions of high res movies are appealing to people who read the resolution (720p, 1080p) and think “oh, good. That’s HD. That’s the version I should get.”, and then rate it a 10/10 in video quality because they’ve watched what they were told was HD without going over their DSL cap.

They’re x264 streams, so it’s no wonder encore would put up a fight.

I think you’re going to need to re-encode. I see no reason to convert it to lossless (or visually lossless for Prores) before editing. It’s two tiny video edits that you can just do to the 264 streams in Premiere/whatever. However, your export process might include a lossless step if you want to avoid the poor quality adobe h264 encoder.

HansiG said:

Year of the Devil

I bought the blu-ray, only to be baffled at the fact it’s in 480p!

I know that the TV airing was in Full HD, so does anyone know about anything?

Huh. I thought I had read that the blu-ray spec requires the main feature be HD for officially released titles.

dahmage said:

poita said:

A true grindhouse would have the colour misalignment, as that is what is on the print 😃

What resolution, filesize would people want a grindhouse to be, and would you prefer the intermission cards left in or removed? Colour aligned or not? (It won’t realign perfectly unfortunately, but can be improved a lot), missing frames left as is?

Cast your votes here.

And yes, more funds for more HDDs would be great, as I am currently working without a net, and it has already cost me time when the RAID0 working space decided to ‘unraid’ a few days ago, costing me a couple of days tedious work to have to redo.

i would vote for the grindhouse to have:
1080p at around 20 gb, so that we can see all those scratches nice and crisp
no strong feelings about title cards
realign color unless it messes with scratches somehow?
leave missing frames missing

I agree with this. BD25 sized (though I’d download a BD50), missing frames left out rather than black frames or duplicate frames. That’s a good point about the damage and color alignment. Could the alignment shift cause the scratches to actually be wider? I would say no intermission cards but wouldn’t be bothered by them.

Edit: After reading where the intermission occurs, I would definitely prefer it without.

HansiG said:

What even is this thread

It’s just someone thinking that, since the blu-rays and SSE are both 1080p, everything is in place to make a 1080p despecialized. It’s easy to misjudge how much work goes into getting sources to match, especially those two. The interesting thing is that it was proposed as a solution for disparate sources bothering him due to OCD (not clear if clinical form or internet slang form that everyone has), when the results would be much worse for that kind of thing.

I think adywan’s is essentially a color corrected 2004 version with 97SE sound mix and the original emperor hologram.

Not a full reconstruction for smaller changes. The only difference I can think of off the top of my head is all of the zoomed shots in the Falcon.

Markstar said:

The thread became more and more tedious to read, with children like Frink and other imbeciles rapping up their post count. Add to that the still horrible forum design and there is really no reason to keep coming here.

I think this is just another desperate ploy of someone trying to rap up their post count to 9.

Bye, you won’t miss me and I won’t miss you.

Yeah, exactly 1/9th of your posts contained unnecessary drama. Really though, we will welcome you back with open arms if you change your mind.

BlueCardinal said:

One source of frustration that we all should take into consideration is that a single thread is not the place to discuss EVERYTHING. There are many ways for all of us to interact as community members. With the ability to start Private Topics with each other and participate in various threads, try not to let “STAR WARS: EP V “REVISITED EDITION” ADYWAN - Suggestions now closed” be the only channel you use to communicate with everyone. We (myself included) have a bad habit of derailing threads (which I could arguably be accused of doing with this very post).

That’s a good point. This thread is specifically for contributing unsolicited suggestions and questions about the release date. 😃

It’s a red faded print and just a temporary color adjustment.

Thanks. I usually feel like I’m just stumbling around in the dark on that site, even with translation.

stretch009 said:

towne32 said:

I think the answer for both of these is that they have never been out on blu-ray, what about HDTV? :

SLC Punk

Pink Floyd’s The Wall

edit: Also, Before Midnight is out on blu-ray, just not the other two: http://www.amazon.com/Before-Midnight-Blu-ray-Yota-Argyropoulou/dp/B00DJYJQ36/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1463249122&sr=1-1&keywords=before+sunset+blu-ray

Pink Floyd - The Wall HDTV is on Rutracker.

Thanks! Just found two of them on there. They’re dead, but it looks like there are a few relatively recent usenet postings to try!

Turned out to be more than I planned, haha. But it’s hard to emphasize just how much work these projects can be, and how easily you could start out on a massive project to find out it was never worth the trouble.

Edit: It’s a valid way of thinking, though. We’re just not there yet. Once we have amazing scans available of all three films, with amazing cleanup and an amazingly color-corrected BD, this would indeed be a project most of us could tackle with some editing software and a source to synchronize it to.

This isn’t going to be anywhere near as easy as you are hoping and planning for it to be. Simply having various 1080p sources doesn’t make this work.

I think both Darth Lucas and I realized how incompatible the SSE is as far as just dropping in some of the shots into the BD. For instance, everyone wants the Dewback or Sandcrawler shots replaced. Switching from the BD to these shots will be immensely more jarring (OCD or not) than the way Harmy has done it.

For 2.7, I checked out most of the shots with GOUT element to determine whether or not using the SSE would be an improvement. In some cases (such as this http://l1.picsurge.com/cCwnAo/pDP6EP9rPb.jpg ) there is no question that it helped the picture quality. I replaced most shots that were 100% GOUT. There are some shots that, with the SSE scan, just aren’t really improved as much. Keep in mind that to get them looking even as okay as they do in 2.7 required additional automatic and manual cleanup on top of what TN1 has already done, as well as grain reduction, sharpening, color adjusting, and stabilization. And that was for only a few shots, as opposed to every single specialized shot in the film.

You need to consider how many shots Harmy had to use just a small GOUT element with the rest of it staying Blu-ray sourced. You’ll be downgrading the majority of the shot in those cases. And then the whole shot will switch back to blu-ray and the quality difference will bug you. Unless of course you’re planning on rotoscoping all of the 35mm elements into the Blu-ray footage. In that case, you’ll be working on essentially what exactly what Harmy is doing. This would be a very long project, and Harmy will probably have better scans when he does it, resulting in less of a drop in picture quality.

I think you’re also making light of the immense task of color correction. I think you’ll see from threads like Dr Dre’s that this is no trivial task. I don’t think anyone has a color corrected blu-ray that’s ready to go for you. There are some works in progress. But as far as I know, most of those projects are going to feed into Harmy’s work. So, although it will probably be a very long wait until Harmy’s 1080p, GOUTless 3.0, I really think you’ll be better off waiting than trying to tackle this yourself.

If it really just is a desire to be rid of GOUT/97SD elements in Despecialized, you can have a go at removing the remaining GOUT sources from 2.7 just for the hell of it. It’ll be 720p, but it’s feasible. I’ll be happy to point out what’s left. And if this actually turns into a viable project I can send you the lossless 2.7 files I guess.

Alternatively, since the main thing bugging you is shifts in quality, and I don’t think your proposed project will help that (rather, it will make it worse), the SSE on its own might just be the best version for you. Hopefully 1.5 will be out soon and have some nice improvements.

I think the answer for both of these is that they have never been out on blu-ray, what about HDTV? :

SLC Punk

Pink Floyd’s The Wall

edit: Also, Before Midnight is out on blu-ray, just not the other two: http://www.amazon.com/Before-Midnight-Blu-ray-Yota-Argyropoulou/dp/B00DJYJQ36/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1463249122&sr=1-1&keywords=before+sunset+blu-ray

3.0 will be 1080p and contain zero GOUT footage. The biggest difference will be from SW 2.7 to 3.0. Though I removed most of the shots that were 100% GOUT (some quick shots of ships in the final Death Star battle wouldn’t have looked too much different substituting SSE for GOUT), there are plenty of shots that use GOUT elements mixed with blu-ray elements. AFAIK, those will all be updated. Furthermore, it is likely that a better 35mm scan than the TN1 scan will be used that will make everything even better.

The differences for ESB and Jedi going from 2.5 to 3.0, as I understand it, will be further adjusted blu-ray color correction, and a bit more cleanup/matching of the 35mm sources. More modest changes than SW, aside from the 1080p factor. Harmy is doing his 2.5 35mm work at 1080p, so it should be much less work to upgrade V and VI in theory. The blu-ray work for those two is still only at 720p, though.

Darth Lucas said:

As for ESB and ROTJ, we probably will never know for sure since there isn’t a reliable color reference to base things off of.

Same for SW as far as I’m concerned.

I make no claims as to accuracy for 2.7, nor did I want to.

scoodidabop said:

New to the community and don’t have a spleen invite/account but I wanted to chime in on the open matte Jurassic Park. I’m a long time die-hard fan of the film and have an open matte copy of the film in high definition and bitrate. A friend scanned his friends copy and burned it to a HD for me. I cut the reels together and added a little saturation but left the matte open. Is the spleen copy cropped at all?

Here are a few grabs of my copy. The blacks are very crushed in the Trex paddock scene unfortunately but the rest is a drastic improvement in color timing over the DVD and 3D Bluray

http://imgur.com/a/ice3D

My apologies that the shots are fairly Explorer-centric but the accurate colors of the car in this version were very important to me since they look so different in the other releases. These snapshots are from Jan 2015 and I only have a handful of screengrabs since then.

The color in those screengrabs look great. As much as I love the MrNiceGuy upload, I have to say I don’t enjoy the way the color looks, but I cannot say what is “right” or not. Given that it was before the Matrix slipup/miscommunication, I wonder if there is a colorspace error or worse with that one too.

Anyway, welcome. I can give you an invite to spleen if you want. I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t partially to encourage you to upload your scan! 😃 But even if you don’t intend to do that, feel free to PM me for an invite.

From what I can tell, “twoflower” is just the codename of VLC itself as of 2.0, so it sounds like your installation is just generally broken. But I’m not an expert on VLC or codecs.

Maybe you just have a bad computer virus? Or maybe you’re trying to use it while it’s completely submerged in water? Or maybe you’re 90 years old and communicating to us all through “the AOL”? Seriously, this is a calamity of errors. 😃

Guessing you’ve tried VLC already?

Episode VIII - The Something something ridiculous something.

If Rian Johnson ends up making the film with flashbacks/non-chronological segments, use Lost’s Jack Shepard to remind us that we’ve “gotta go back to the island” before scenes with Skellig Michael.

Edit: Something about Leia “GOTTA GET MY BOY BACK” while we’re at it.

Dek Rollins said:

There is a tech help category, right?

Yep. It would be better suited for there. I’m usually happy to help with minor tech things, as it’s not like this thread is bursting with activity at the moment. But this seems like a few problems layered on top of each other, and I wonder if it isn’t just due to a very old/dying/overheating/etc computer.

I think it’s very unlikely that these files will still be accessible, even with a usenet subscription with incredible retention. They seemed to be barely accessible when you guys were discussing it three years ago. However, if anyone has nzbs for the ideal releases of each (no station logo, etc) I would definitely like to try. I can’t even find the relevant releases with usenet search engines.

Ryan-SWI said:

schorman13 said:

Well, she has a line there in the CAM bootleg version, so…

Seconded. There are two different main cam sources with different audio tracks with differences between the two that I’ve noticed. She does say a line in one of them.

The cam videos come from non-English versions of the film, from what I’ve seen. Is the audio a sort of patchwork from multiple sources, or is it a straight rip of the English audio?