Oh great you answered now he’s encouraged to keep asking.
Can you tell me what kind of impact that is going to have on Adywan’s edit
The Doctor Who restoration team has used ultra-sonic cleaning on the recovered film reels of missing episodes. These are B&W prints from the mid 60’s so a bit older than than film prints being used here and definitely with vinegar syndrome. It is safe and very effective. The results have been amazing. Definitely worth the time and effort for the OT prints.
Indeed they do. When they got Web of Fear and Enemy of the World back in 2013, they already had a superior copy of Enemy part 3 in the archive. So they tested out the ultra-sonic process on the duplicate print as a test to make sure the prints that had been sitting around in Nigeria for 40 years would not be damaged by the process. After comparing a short stretch of the film before and after cleaning, they determined there was no damage.
They recorded some of the prep and transfer, ultra-sonic at the 2 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsMgNCwYcXw
It would be interesting if they could try the process out on the copy of The Lion (Crusade episode) owned by that Australian collector. I think most of the print’s problems are from actual damage, but it might be dirty as well. I don’t think they’ve gotten a chance to re-scan that one since 1999.
Based only on memory, yes, it had the glitch.
It’s a graphical error with a bunch of noise/glitches in one of the final shots of the Falcon.
Don’t forget to make Han shoot first.
That’d be one hell of an LUT.
Of course! Here you are the shot: https://fs07n3.sendspace.com/dl/60923c831586da914b85e2bedd9c116f/5834fb2c284874b4/7rmlsi/EP_Theatrical_hand.mkv - as you can see, quality is really rough… can be used as reference, though.
Thanks. I have not seen the SVCD since 2002 (when I probably had it). Only the VCD seems to be floating around these days.
Do you have the shot of the deleted speeder from the SVCD as well?
It’s great to see so many people interested in colour grading.
Looking at some of the examples being posted I’m wondering if people are calibrating their screens. I’d recommend grabbing a cheap colormunki or i1 probe at a minimum, there isn’t a lot of use colour correcting if your screen is adding a blue tint in the shadows, and a green tint in the highlights for example.
Good advice. It would be a shame if some people with very strong feelings about particular colors were advocating for examples that don’t really exist as they see them! I know a few people here have calibrated sets, but I think I’ve mostly been scoffed at for asking if people do calibrations before giving some of the more serious critiques.
Any thoughts on the i1 display 2? It’s a cheap one like the munki that I use. Not sure if it’s any better or worse.
bort
Lol what a great name.
“My son is also named Bort.”
I do not think there is any reason Disney would use a film source if they ever do a 4K upscale of II or III.
On another note, RoTS generally has a very good reputation for its picture quality on BD. II less so, but I think the original master is probably of low quality, as an early digital film. A TPM scan might look better to some of us here, since the Bluray release was handled pretty poorly. Presumably Disney would use the negatives.
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Me too!
I think you posted those in the wrong order.
Have you seen my keys?
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Me too!
I think you posted those in the wrong order.
Oh wait never mind, I found them.
He has spoken!
As for keeping things quiet: I’d appreciate it
So why then did you not do that? Did you not read what you quoted?
Meanwhile, williarob has invented a new technique to determine “how many lurkers are reading my thread on OT?”
How about change the title of this topic to something unrelated and uninteresting to start. Let’s call it the Holiday Special Bea Arthur extended scenes restoration or something like that. 😉
I believe it is not possible to change titles with the new forum software. I don’t even think the mods can do it.
Same way as any other recent-ish film print, I guess. Others have popped up before.
Episode I was up from the same seller a few weeks ago. I guess that one sold?
“Looks great” is an understatement. Those are, without a doubt, the best grade I’ve seen yet.
Absolutely. Please don’t change a thing!
As promised here are shots 71-80, No DNR:
This is HEVC again, but this time using the MainConcept encoder which should be better than Handbrake.
The cleanup looks great.
This is before additional color work by Dre? I predict we’re going to have a bit of discussion about how green R2’s corridor should be. 😃
Here’s a short color graded 1080p video sample with no sound:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8_LYKyZDiajR0lvQ1ppTnFwSm8/view?usp=sharing
I will try to finish the color grading for the complete video sample Williarob posted as soon as possible.
Perfect. I know it’s probably going to undergo another 130 or so revisions. But I think this looks excellent and would love to see you guys move on to some other shots, if the complete render looks as good as this portion. 😛 😃
I might not have been clear. The point of the 35mm II would be several shots present in the theatrical version. The only copy we have of those shots is a horrible cam recording.
As for the picture quality: probably? It’s not like the BD looks particularly good, for II. Degrained, cleaned up, the few seconds of footage would probably fit in fine.
I’m not arguing that it’s worth spending the money on such a crappy movie. Just that it is not, technically, pointless. 😃
Thanks. I had edited it by the time you responded, but used sort of his second name. 😃
Yeah, it’s too bad about that project. I’d be happy to help render or finish it but I feel like I’ve bugged him enough about it by now and it’s not clear what’s not working.
There is an episode II 35mm print on ebay. It’s relisted after failing to sell for $750 last week. I’m not saying it’s worth it at all (for about 4 shots of the worst Star Wars film ever 😃 ), just that it’s the only way of making a theatrical AoTC.
For Ep III, Schorman was planning on uploading the version with the wipe replaced from the blu-ray, at some point. You could try to get an update from him.
Valeyard reconstructed the theatrical menace in HD, with a few upscaled shots. As of a year ago he was done but having trouble rendering some of it, I think. No idea where that’s at.
An interesting idea to recreate the 1997 SEs out of the HDTV broadcast. It’s going to require massive color correction. For me, that’s the main difference between 97 and 04, even with the other stupid changes. I would also probably just wait for the 4K77 project to come out, and use those shots to despecialize 04 as needed, similar to how Harmy did with his old 97SE project. Or maybe at that point you could just specialize the 4K77 with 04, depending on how things turn out.
I’m very much interested in the DNR version, but what I’ve seen of the grainy one looks like I could live with it easily. It’s hard to tell having only seen stuff from the first reel, though. There were swaths of the SSE where the grain was just out of control, IMO, and that really hampered my ability to enjoy it. Authenticity is well and good, but at a certain point it just doesn’t look good when you’re watching it on a screen.
I agree with this. Not that SSE really needed to be altered, it’s just the nature of that print which makes it that extra step away from ‘authentic’.
For 4K, I wouldn’t mind the idea of a reasonably managed grain version (similar to really well done commercial blu-rays where there is still good visible grain), but the samples, as good as they looked, were a little too clean. I think focus on the main version is the way to go.
I think the reason they probably removed the blue door is that they really intensified its saturation in 2004 when they felt the need to make R2 as blue as possible.
Honestly since I can’t notice it and there seems to be a dispute as to the nature or even existence of it, I’m not gonna worry about it. Any changes I make might just mess it up more so I’ll leave it as it is. If there is a problem I’m sure it will be corrected in 2.5.
The former is certainly true. You won’t notice it. As far as the existence of it goes, I am pretty certain Catbus was mistakenly discussing SW. But he has yet to come back and confirm. 😃
I like the new grading as well! You’re going to make harmy’s job a bit easier once both projects are done. 😃
Do you mean Despecialized 3.0 could come after 4K 77 ?
I don’t know what the schedule is at all. But these guys are all working together now. Despecialized 3.0 will be based on Neverar’s recolored blu-ray (which is coming along nicely). In theory, if they cleaned up the ‘despecialized’ shots first, Harmy’s could happen first while the rest of the film was worked on for 4k77. It will all depend on what these guys want to do, I’m sure.
I like the new grading as well! You’re going to make harmy’s job a bit easier once both projects are done. 😃 ( I’m sure additional cleanup will be needed and other things, though)