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CatBus said:

I have never been able to notice a one-frame sync difference (42 ms off). Probably because there are already ADR and SFX sync problems in the movies themselves, and a one-frame difference is less than that. A two-frame sync difference (83 ms off), however, is right on the edge of perception for me. It requires just the right sort of thing to be happening, but then I notice it. For other things, I don’t. Three frames is right out.

I wonder if the imperfections that come along with ADR are sometimes enhanced past the threshold where they are noticeable, with small frame shifts. Of course, at other times it might improve the effect. 😛

yhwx said:

Fang Zei said:

Would someone please re-explain to me what the whole “GOUT-syncing” thing is and when/why we started talking about it?

It’s so that people have a reference so that audio is synced with video.

Worrying about one or two frames out of sync is a bit ridiculous.

Worrying about it is indeed ridiculous. Making sure it’s noted and remembered so that it’s fixed next time (as SW 2.7 was) is nonridiculous.

Looks great. Neverar can retire early.

As with much of your software, Dre, when I look at this I think “oh, this has commercial potential, why is he wasting his skills on us?”. Which got me thinking, what are the potential legal ramifications of machine learning algorithms like this? If Neverargreat was a commercial entity, and you built an algorithm that used examples of his to learn from, but didn’t actually include any of his work in the software, does he still have any stake in what that ‘bot’ produces? Presumably not, in cases where an AI is trained from the work of numerous artists. But if you really are training a bot to be a Neverar that doesn’t need food/water/sleep, how does that work out?

For Jedi 2.6, any thoughts on removing the Sega Dreamcast quality Sarlacc appendages? That would be my only suggestion on top of the color adjustments.

I’ve got to say, looking at the ESB 2.6 shots that the skin tones are finally (for me) looking quite nice. I don’t like to give kk650 a hard time, but the warming up of 2.5 was too slight for me and it still looked desaturated. But great job on 2.6, I’m going to take a look at the whole film.

Did the 2.6 ANH fly under the radar here or did I miss a post? Hopefully it looks similar. For the 2.5 collection, Jedi arguably had the most desaturated skin tones, so looking forward to 2.6 there.

Edit: ANH 2.6 looks pretty good! I think the skin tones look nice. My main problem with it is something that has been around for quite a few revisions, and that’s the contrast. I think the black levels definitely need to be dropped a bit as they’re quite a light grey on a calibrated display. Starfields, inside the sandcrawler, even the black screen before the Fox logo. So a universal contrast change should do some good. If the space shots could look as they do in ESB, it would be a major improvement.

Edit: Dropping the brightness level for ANH in Kodi by 3 or 4% brings the black levels down to a nice level, and everything else looks fine this way. And Kodi saves this change specifically for just this file, which is nice.

Alderaan said:

As a reference, is Harmy’s Despecialized 2.7 Gout-synced or if not what’s the lag/lead in frames?

I think I remember someone telling me that the latest version of Empire was off by 1 frame.

2.7 is GOUT-synced. ESB 2.0 is off by a frame.

Bmman said:

Jack of All Trades said:

This already exists. whoflix.wordpress.com

Thats pretty awesome

It’s definitely an ambitious project. It’s a shame their video renders (at least the ones they make available) are extremely low quality. As a big fan of the classic series, the edits are also way, way too heavy for my tastes, but it’s a cool project nonetheless.

Also keep in mind that there are some omnibus edits that were made (officially) decades ago for some serials. On DVD, there are some serials that were made into feature length edits (such as Planet of Fire, Enlightenment, Remembrance of the Daleks, Battlefield), sometimes with remade effects and soundtracks.

One edit I was recently thinking about (maybe even doing) would be some sort of edit of the Trial of a Timelord season. Trying to see if it’s possible to make the first three stories into standalone versions. Haven’t really looked into it yet.

clutchins said:

He shared a lot of his scripts I believe.

Ah, you’re right. I was just thinking in terms of raw video, but this should be helpful as well!

Skippy The Jedi Droid said:

Really cool seeing someone else trying to do this after RU.08 gave up on his porject. Such a shame because it seemed it was going pretty well.
I wish you the best of luck! You seem to know what you’re doing 😃

Yeah, it would be nice if some of the elements of it were available. He seemed to be doing a great job. But oh well, it’s his project and his decision. 😃 These kinds of projects can take a lot of time and energy. As much as I think a theatrical TPM should exist, I can’t imagine motivating myself to keep working on it.

I wonder if it would be worth the trouble (inb4 nothing TPM related is worth any trouble) rotoscoping Yoda like you say. It isn’t as though the blu-ray quality is anything marvelous to be matched. It’s overly DNRed, so you could perhaps just degrain the HDTV shots?

I don’t mean to drag his name through the mud or necessarily start up a full conversation about this again, but KK650’s edit is a bit on the yellow side. He has gone back to the OT and given them a bit more life (though perhaps still less than some prefer), but the PT I don’t believe have been updated. I forget if Hal9000 ended up color correcting the blu-ray for his project. I know he added grain back.

Ebay is probably more likely to crack down on the ‘instructions’ auctions than actual pirated material. I believe it’s directly against their TOS (and provable, they give people the benefit of the doubt that discs aren’t BD-Rs, sadly). Back in 2000-2001, half of ebay was scammers selling “instructions” on how to make money on ebay. Of course, if you were stupid enough to win these auctions, you would be told to make auctions selling instructions on how to make money on ebay. Fortunately they cracked down on it and made rules that you have to actually sell goods.

Year. Sounds like those are version 1.0.

TV’s Frink said:

Fang Zei said:

robertelee said:

I’m really saddened by how little activity there was. I and a couple others were very proactive about trying to spread it, but is seems the world does not care.

There are more important things to worry about in this world, really.

Frevious trigger warning.

WHY DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO ME

Colson said:

Dagobah1 said:

Here’s the Crystal Skull trailer 35mm:
http://dai.ly/kRsHKFQK0LbPtOnh5Yz

This appears to have been removed.

So has the user.

later

Why do you keep coming back?

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Sithposting
"i’m just so tired of all these star wars"

Anyone who uses a UCB joke to describe a subforum is okay in my book.

Thin Ice and Oxygen were highlights, IMO. I liked last week as well, but we’re moving from standalones into a Moffat arc of some sort, akin to series 6. So I’ll probably need to reserve complete judgement until the finale.

I get the reference. Her show was fantastic.

I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised with Nardole. He has a functional (still somewhat mysterious) role in trying to keep him on track and earthbound, like the Timelords did to him in 1970. Not terribly successful, but not the simple and useless comic relief he was in the Mysterio Christmas Special.

SilverWook said:

I have the NTSC two disc release. Seems cheap or lazy to use a heavily compressed version as an uncompressed master for the recon must be somewhere?

Hard to say.

More importantly, Derek Handley offered to allow them to use his new Power of the Daleks telesnap recon in the set and it was either too late to do so, or they did not want to. I think inclusion of the BBC recon was just a simple bonus and not a main attraction. There’s nothing fancy about it, and even if they didn’t use Derek’s, it would have only taken a day or two to simply build another one out of the higher quality, cleaned up telesnaps they now have.

btw: In case you’re not aware, Derek is the guy from Loose Cannon. They’ve used his recons on for Marco Polo and Galaxy 4 in the DVD range before, as well as in the Out of the Unknown DVDs.

SilverWook said:

The telesnap recon suffers from a shockingly low bitrate. (Probably the only way to cram it in on the same disc.) Nearly every fade out/fade in, or dissolve pixilates very badly.

I know this is a really old post, but I think the telesnap recon is simply low bitrate because it came from an MP3 CD recon from a bunch of years back. It was the equivalent of a quicktime/realmedia thing in the early 2000s.

I’m a bit confused as to which release you got? On the NTSC version, the color copy is on disc 1. The Blu-ray is actually region free as far as I can tell (the included DVDs are not). Plays fine on my US PS4 (and probably any machine that will do 25P?). Even on that case, where there’s plenty of room on the BD50 for the SD recon on disc 2, and it’s still pixelated, as it was back on the audio CD.

The initial PAL DVD came out before the color animation was completed, and R2 territory never got a second 2-disc DVD release.

Then, the US and Australian DVDs came out. These had the black and white version crammed in with all of the extras on disc 2. The jaggies are insanely bad and almost unwatchable. The color version is a bit messed up. The credit fades are based on earlier renders. Sometimes the text jumps around, or the fade is actually missing. In one episode, there are early Dalek renders shown, which are left-handed (mirrored).

Then the Blu-ray came out. It has 2x BD50s + 2x DVDs. BD disc 1 has B&W plus most extras. BD disc 2 has Color and the recon. This is the only way to get the R2 color DVD. However, only the main B&W and Color features are on these discs, not any extras. It’s worth picking up. At 1080p, you can see a pretty nice fake grain effect on the B&W version, which gives it a bit of a vintage look, and all the line work is much smoother.

joefavs said:

I think you’re probably fine with the blu-rays. When in doubt, the current official release is a good rule of thumb. Especially since it’s looking more and more like they’ll just ride out the 2011 discs until they do a 4K release rather than putting out a remastered SE in the meantime.

Yeah, no point encouraging the purchase of discs that will pretty much only benefit ebay sellers asking for way more than they’re worth.

Fang Zei said:

Darth Lucas said:

towne32 said:

As I thought, the reddit thread is full of scumbags.

You shouldn’t link the thread directly here, though. AFAIK, that constitutes brigading and can result in deletions/bans.

Facebook comments arent much better. Lots of “get over it”.

I just loved how the very first reply in that reddit thread talks about how Kennedy said she wasn’t going to touch George’s versions when that has nothing at all to do with restoring the original versions.

To be fair, the majority of people even here seem to be dead set on interpreting it that way. Hell, poita just posted the same yesterday.

Other than that, we’re just getting the same old parroted comments about how the film is destroyed, or how Fox would never allow Disney to sell something that would make money for both parties.

As I thought, the reddit thread is full of scumbags.

You shouldn’t link the thread directly here, though. AFAIK, that constitutes brigading and can result in deletions/bans.

As I thought, the reddit thread is full of scumbags.

You shouldn’t link the thread directly here, though. AFAIK, that constitutes brigading and can result in deletions/bans.