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The one OT movie in which Artoo never goes inside the Falcon, and Threepio only does so off-screen
The one OT movie in which Artoo never goes inside the Falcon, and Threepio only does so off-screen
I’ve still never seen Temple of Doom. Maybe someday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YUzQa_1RCE
I’m sorry, but I just can’t get behind an elderly Christopher Walken as the Emperor.
Why not?
Less than 1gb??? I may need to download this just to see how bad the picture quality looks
I don’t see how mkv vs mp4 would make a difference. MKVs are just containers for other formats, which could be using the same (or probably better) compression algorithm as an mp4
I’m oke with the new HDR grades. They look fine to me, but I prefer the original look for all three films.
Ok but what about the sudden swap from Day to Night?
We see the big tree roots at the base “Daytime” when pan up the bigature model of the winding stairs around the trunk it’s night.
How about grading the first shot as night for continuity?
This feels a quite choppy otherwise…
Isn’t this just because they’ve been walking all day through the woods before reaching Caras Galadhon?
This is all probably because the version of the script from mid-March 1982, before the final round of rewrites on the Endor sequence, reads a bit different here.
Note that, in addition to the Imperial facility being much bigger and more active than it ends up in the final film, there’s no description of Vader exiting his shuttle. Instead, the viewer is supposed to discern that Vader obediently arrived on the moon immediately after his conversation with the Emperor earlier, and has been waiting around for Luke to turn himself in.
Frankly, I think it makes more sense that way, and avoids the same “We must always see Vader travel between locations” thinking that lead to the addition of some things to the end of ESB in the SE. And the musical cue could work with just a better establishing shot of the Imperial facility.
Here is the podrace in full. I replaced the music and sound effects at the beginning so I could remove some of the racer introductions and Jar Jar shenanigans, removed the whole flag parade part, removed Quadineros’ pod not starting, added some deleted scene stuff, removed the sequence where Anakin’s engine becomes detached, cut some reactions/dialogue, etc. A ton of work went into this, and hopefully you won’t actually notice any of it.
This has always been one of my favorite sequences in all of Star Wars, so it was really fun playing with it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bIVCqc3NkYLT-_toejDHALcXjPcnj-o/view?usp=drive_link
Have you ever noticed that the part Sebulba breaks/bends-down is prominently visible, intact and in its original position, in all the subsequence shots during his convo w/ Ani?
thanks guys lets expect that ashoka is good too
Difficult to say. Totally different showrunner, etc.
Does it get into the different rewrite/revision dates of various scenes/portions of the script?
Oh, it’s a 4k83, but a previous version as I haven’t gotten around to downloading the newer version.
Once I’m done going through it (for my storyboards) project, I’ll have to post my thoughts on the earlier versions of scenes that later got rewritten. Stuff like Jabba kissing Leia.
I’ve been watching the first act a bit lately, and I gotta say, I’m really struck by the lighting & colors in Jabba’s Palace. What a great set & atmosphere.
Even though ROTJ is my least favorite of the OT‡, the music at the end of the Jabba’s Barge sequence, as they’re flying away into space, is some of the most memorable in the whole of Star Wars.
I feel like I’ve said this before.
‡ Least favorite to watch, that is. It’s my favorite to spend way too much time thinking about the production thereof, as my storyboards project reveals, that’s because its production is so interesting because it’s flawed, which yielded an inferior film
If I ever finish my project it would probably be what you are looking for.
Did you ever finish?
Just want to point out that he has since been banned (note that his avatar is marked with a 🚫)
It’s definitely true that TLC is the weakest of the three, and the clone stuff just isn’t as good as it isn’t to be.
Finally got around to watching the 4K release of The Undiscovered Country (Extended Cut) last night. The picture quality was, to my eye at least, beautiful. Only a few of the space shots looked model-y, and that’s because they are (and it wasn’t that bad), and I was struck by how some of them, especially towards the end of the movie, felt very TOS in their composition (in contrast with the more dynamic, fancy cinematic shots), but not in a bad way. The acting is, of course, great, though some of the dialogue is ridiculous (“If my surmise is correct those boots will cling to the killers’ necks like a pair of Tiberian bats”).
The movie was really interesting and strange, however, given it’s place in history and current events. It never tries to hide the fact that it’s about the end of the Cold War, but I was a very little kid when the movie debuted and have little sense, myself, of how strange detante with the Soviets must have felt. And yet, given recent events in Ukraine, I felt more understanding of Kirk & McCoy’s attitude towards the Klingons than ever before. Glasnost & Perestroika were wonderful ideas, but it’s so, so hard to not be cynical about where it’s all lead. But I can’t deny that Spock & Gorkon are right, it’s just so difficult.
Oh also the storyline on the Enterprise, with Detective Spock-lock (Sher-spock?), is the better part of the middle act. Rura Penthe sounds cool, but honestly it wasn’t that great.
I’m really interested to see your takes on these films as I really enjoyed your work on Kenobi. I’ve found the prequels the hardest to find edits of that I’d be happy to put into into my definitive collection, but your AotC sounds like it could be just what I’m looking for.
Out of interest, what’s your stance on multimedia, or inserting Clone Wars/Tales of the Jedi scenes? I know many find it jarring, but I feel some of Dooku’s scenes from TotJ could really add to the tone of TPM.
I’m a big fan of the animated series. But I don’t intend to integrate them into the movies. They’re always separate things to me.
That’s fair enough. I’ve seen a few edits that integrate, and a few that don’t, and to be honest, both can work really well. I’m undecided as to how I’d like my definitive collection to look, particularly surrounding Dooku’s TotJ arc as it works well stand alone or integrated. I look forward to viewing your edits; it might give me some much needed clarity on this topic.
It’s tempting to use some Dooku footage from Totj in conjunction with that deleted scene from AOTC, but I think the merging of the two mediums will just feel too fanedit-y.
Correct.
It’s got to be the “Small Details” thread; this ought to be merged there if that’s possible.
So maybe this is how it looked and then again maybe not.
This is a great summary of a lot of threads around here lol
Yeah, “sterile” sums up Villeneuve’s style quite well. “Dreary” works also.
I never understood all the praise Arrival got. I’m guessing 99% of the people who got their rocks off to the film were floored by the plot twist. Well, I went into the movie knowing the twist beforehand and got nothing out of the experience expect cold colour grading and a protagonist with all the charm and personality of a dead salmon sitting in a cooler (and I normally love Amy Adams).
His style was a perfect fit for Blade Runner 2049, though.
Oh, no, I found it beautiful and moving before the plot twist. The plot twist, honestly, felt way too implausible to me. But I loved the movie, especially before that
There are times when it’s wisest, I think, to just not reply. Don’t cast your pearls and all that
Regardless, I’ve met people in their late 20s that genuinely were surprised to learn that there was ever widespread dislike towards the Prequels on the Internet. There’s obviously a generational aspect to this, and I can understand why younger people might be skeptical about this, since it’s so different than the prevailing attitude today.
I’m 36 and I thought the positivity towards the prequels was mostly sarcastic/ironic. How could it be anything else?
I found it very interesting that Cantwell’s concept model for the Millennium Falcon eventually got turned into the Corellian Corvette. Uncle George must have liked that one a lot.
That design was the Millennium Falcon for most of the time making the movie; the switch only happened late when it was decided that it resembled the ships in Space 1999 too much. That’s why the Tantive IV model is so big and detailed despite barely being in the film: Until they swapped out the cockpit (which radically changed the intended scale of the model), it was intended to be the Millennium Falcon and would have been in a lot of closeup shots.
Read https://kitbashed.com/blog/a-complete-history-of-the-millennium-falcon for more details
If anyone wants to take a look inside the Sourcebook, you can borrow it for an hour from the Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/starwarssourcebo0000smit/mode/2up