timdiggerm

I know this isn’t the SE, but all of Red Leader & Gold Leader’s appearances in Rogue One are adjacent to this category

benduwan said:

That is a incredeble work. Will Star wars and empire follow?
Thank you very much.

I’ve thought about it. It’s a lot of work, and their productions were a lot less fraught, a lot less cut at the last minute. I’ve been collecting the storyboards, but I’ve never come across anything for the famous cut stuff from ESB (Wampas in Echo Base, for example), probably because they never made it to post-production effects (and were all on-set effects anyway). As far as I can tell, only ROTJ reached this level of late changes, an unfortunate presage of how things worked in the prequels (particularly the last third of AOTC).

An update on RA 78:

The NOTES section on this one outlines how a flash bulb will be hidden inside the engine pods and compressed air will be used to blow bits of the ship toward camera. So, they got pretty far into the technical details of this shot before apparently abandoning it.

oojason said:

Looks like a riff on the Starship Voyager 😉
 

George will be promoting the new museum, scheduled to open in 2026, in his first ever Comic-Con appearance later today…
 

George is getting up in front of a live Comic Con audience???

I hope there’s a Q&A and I hope Connor Ratliff is there

Were there any fan-scan 35mm preservations before Star Wars?

(I do not know which SW scan project should be considered “first” and I do not think we should get into that kind of argument here)

It seems to me that, given the age of this thread (2006! We’re nearly at the twenty year mark!), this could be an important landmark, the post that (at least for many) started it all

The near-zero acting nominations is bizarre. The series had many strengths, but acting was its second (after writing)

G&G-Fan said:

Apparently Luke’s force kick was intentional!

With this info, I honestly hope it’s kept in Revisited.

It does not show that. This storyboard is all about compositing the Boba Fett footage onto the Sail Barge Battle footage. That’s why the description is all about Boba’s motion. This was not used to plan the action of Luke vs the guards. The fact that the artist included “the Force kick” so clearly may be because it was so distinct, ie it looked bad and they knew right away.

The storyboards for planning the action before filming have a different look:

Note that Boba’s last flight was originally going to be shown from below, looking up at blue sky. Putting Luke in the foreground helps tie the different strands of the fight together into a whole.

Also, note the dates on JB19 - they’re only 6 months away from the film being released when they finally get around to drawing that storyboard. That’s after filming, in the midst of the post-production crunch and, crucially, not long after the early November 82 roughcut screening that lead to a lot of changes & cuts. Probably the roughcut had Boba flying through the blue sky and they felt the need to connect it visually with everything else going on. Or maybe they just didn’t get to this shot until late in post-production.

If he refunded your donation, how is it scamming? Besides, from the way people are reacting, I can see why he did what he did.

oh_riginal said:

That guy with no name said:

oh_riginal said:

https://youtu.be/xPZigWFyK2o?si=T6kamsDQXcdtyT2G

In this clip, at around 5:36, there’s a moment from the Falcon’s cockpit view where it seems Lando has steered the ship to avoid hitting a wall, but the elements used for the ships in front of the Falcon move sideways along with the Falcon’s view in perfect unison, and this has always bothered me. It seems to just be a limitation of the effects at the time. I wonder, Adywan, do you see what I am talking about? And are there any plans to attempt a fix?

Also, does anyone even see what I’m talking about?

Screenshot?

I don’t think a screenshot would show what I’m seeing. You have to see it in motion.

You can link to specific timecodes in youtube links. You can also create GIFs.

Anyway, I don’t think they all move in unison. Each of those ships, as well as the tunnel and the cockpit overlay are separate elements, filmed separately. Other than any issues with the later remastering recomposites, it’s likely exactly what the effects team intended. This isn’t even one of the overly complex parts of the battle that got cut down for budget/time reasons. And again, I don’t see the problem you’re describing.

It’s a whole new category of things for fan editors to work on, akin to the various attempts to make the deleted scenes usable

I mean, it needs to be scanned at the highest digital quality possible. I’d be surprised if the BFI aren’t going to do that.

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

timdiggerm said:

I should also point out that, due to the use of AI, this might count as a Fan Edit, not a Preservation

Not that it is the same caliber, but would you consider AI being used on The Beatles’ “Now & Then” to isolate and clean the noise on Lennon’s vocals a preservation or an edit? It’s a bit of a gray area. It is not creating, only cleaning and adjusting levels and removing static and background noise.

That’s a good point! I look forward to hearing your results, of course

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

timdiggerm said:

May you reach that limit sooner and sooner every day

Okay, you’ve inspired me. The main post has been updated with a non-AI cover I put together 😄

Thank you. I have been reading this post and I think it’s spot on.

I should also point out that, due to the use of AI, this might count as a Fan Edit, not a Preservation

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

timdiggerm said:

Might want to find an AI that can properly recreate a red ball jett organ’s keys, instead of that ridiculous inverted, not-quite-right piano keyboard it gave you.

I’m at my limit for image creation for the day

May you reach that limit sooner and sooner every day

Might want to find an AI that can properly recreate a red ball jett organ’s keys, instead of that ridiculous inverted, not-quite-right piano keyboard it gave you.

I think it’s unwise to think about the disputes over copyright, historic preservation, artistic integrity in good vs evil terms. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Has anyone tried filming people in clone armor to try and replace some of the CG troopers?

That first one has done a really good job recreating the movement, but has a lot of issues with harsh lighting, sharp edges.

The second one is just awful. He’s made the OT look worse in order to help it be less jarring with his renders.

oojason said:

Personally, I’m so pleased that we now finally have a truly worthy Prequel Trilogy (2 seasons of Andor + Rogue One) for the Original Trilogy.

The other Prequel releases - the one true Prequel Trilogy: the 1978 Holiday Special and the 2 theatrical Ewok films… along with the other more dissonant PT films from '99-'05… never really cut it for me (though am glad others seem to enjoy them).

It has certainly been a long wait - yet a worthwhile one.
 

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

Of course, each season is 3-4 movies of material

ElectricTriangle said:

Right, but the fact that they had this and showed it at all rather than just not showing any bit of Tarkin would indicate to me that they filmed all (most, some?) of his scenes for real with Guy Henry’s actual face and it’s sitting in a vault. Again, they professed that they didn’t shot any of this without the intention of Frankensteining Peter Cushing and they had no safety. If this is Guy Henry, I think it at least puts to lie that notion.

Maybe, but “discovering” this “lie” will not actually cause that footage to be released in any form so 🤷‍♂️ there’s no point in getting excited about it. Far, far more likely that there was a shot that was usable without much effects work (removing tracking dots without doing the full CG perhaps) for the trailer.

timdiggerm said:

I’ve seen comments like “Kleya & Vel spin-off when?” and “We need an Andor for this [photo of DS II]” and on the one hand I do think there’s fertile ground with the first one as far as characters go, and obviously with the second one as far as plot-device goes (and yes, Bothans, I know), but of course the actual answer is that they should make neither until they know what the big theme of any show would be. You can’t just retread “The personal sacrifices necessary to fight fascism” over and over, even if it is a good theme.

To follow up on my own post… Andor Spoilers Within:

I was struck by, at the end of season 2, everyone’s got their home on Yavin, and how important this is for their emotional journeys (thinking here of Vel, Kleya, Mon). In just a few days, they are going to almost have their home destroyed by the Death Star, followed by evacuating it completely. They then won’t have a large permanent base for years, as Echo Base takes a long time to build-out. They do not get to inhabit for very long (Wookieepedia says 1 month but this could be stretched and retconned pretty easily as there were Rebels there for 2 years during construction), and afterwards, as far as I know at least, they do not get a permanent base ever again. That homelessness seems like thematic fertile ground to me.

I’ve seen comments like “Kleya & Vel spin-off when?” and “We need an Andor for this [photo of DS II]” and on the one hand I do think there’s fertile ground with the first one as far as characters go, and obviously with the second one as far as plot-device goes (and yes, Bothans, I know), but of course the actual answer is that they should make neither until they know what the big theme of any show would be. You can’t just retread “The personal sacrifices necessary to fight fascism” over and over, even if it is a good theme.

I was disappointed there wasn’t more Saw in the last two arcs, maybe something with his group doing something so bad as to explain why the Alliance pushes them away. On the other hand, I underestimated how much the Alliance pushing him away can mostly be in his head.

Having him saying “You have no idea where I am!” when they know and we know that he’s definitely on Jedha was perfect.

Bail’s remaining on Coruscant was necessary simply by way of the fact that we already knew both he and his daughter are active members of the Senate right up to its dissolution. When he was saying that his place was there, he just had to stay, I think part of his reasoning was that he can’t risk his family being scrutinized or taken into custody; he knows he has one of the two people most likely of being someday capable of taking out the Emperor and Vader.

I did not see Partagaz’s suicide coming, but Anton Lesser really sold it. Incredible performance. I had always thought he was fond of Lonni; I was so so so so glad they brought back Nemik’s manifesto. Of all the monologues in this show, it’s the one that sticks with me.
Partagaz was such a likeable guy, it was maybe a little too good to have him turn, though this was obviously the saddest way to do that. I think there’s still a lot to process there.

I could not be more pleased with how things turned out for Heert and Meero, and Perrin for that matter.

Vladius said:

timdiggerm said:

The press release page linked at the top is pretty interesting. Most of those projects have actually happened. Rogue Squadron never got out of development hell, the Taika Waititi thing seems dead too, Rangers got cancelled for understandable reasons, and then there’s A Droid Story (???). But the rest! It all happened!

They also snuck Lando in there, which didn’t happen

yet

It looks very cool, but years of Star Wars films have taught me not to get too excited by a trailer…