timdiggerm

NeverarGreat said:

That guy with no name said:

the skies on Tatooine are blue because the skies on Tatooine (Tunisia) ARE blue… They’ve been desaturated on home media (especially in the UHD) but have always been and meant to be a deep and bright blue…

If they’ve been desaturated on home media, does that not imply that they’re meant to be desaturated?

Kind of a strange question for a forum partly dedicated to complaining about all the ways the colors have been wrong on home media releases of this movie.

A little blue, but not very blue. Seems about right to me!

A bit of gate weave on that one

After viewing it a few times, I think it is a real problem. I think it’s a “crossing the line” issue, as they say in filmmaking.

Specifically it’s between images 4 & 5 of this sequence. By having the sandcrawler on the left, the camera has completely swung around from where it was before, in a very jarring way. It’s made worse by then swinging back around to where we were before for the next shot, but it would be a problem even without that.

I think the reason it’s okay to then do it for image 7 is that Threepio’s presence in frame anchors the viewer somehow? Anyway, continuity issues are less important than the visual language of film.

A post with a link to a youtube compilation of many of these clips made it onto r/starwars over on reddit. So, knowledge of this is certainly spreading.

It seems likely that it’s yours, yeah. They don’t name a source, which is suggestive

digitalfreaknyc said:

JF_Sanderson said:

Why is sandstorm still b&w? Because they don’t want to (or can’t) track down uncut negative and conform it to dailies edit?

What do you mean, “still?” It’s in color on the Blu-ray.

Lest anyone forget, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQwEcD17RvA

https://animationobsessive.substack.com/p/the-toy-story-you-remember

Worth reading, though if you’re on this forum you probably already know about these issues.

The link is not open for viewing, Ady. It asked me to request permission

Mocata said:

Fruit672 said:

Ok, lets get one thing straight, George Lucas is the Creator of Star Wars and every other property he has created; He will always have a say and the final say. If he wants something to be X, it should be like X and honestly he’s been pretty kind considering how straight up evil the “fans” have been. The “Fans” at some point start to get this ridiculous idea that they know better than the creator and should have control over what happens with his creations.

You don’t think this is an odd thing to say, on here of all places?

In case you really don’t understand this, Fruit672, this is a message board mostly devoted to

a) Making digital bootlegs of the original versions of the OT so people can see them, against Lucas’s wishes

b) Fan edits of those films, also against his wishes

That guy with no name said:

timdiggerm said:

I had missed that redacted pastebin partial. Any idea what the .WI source is? The others all make sense.

very interesting that they’ve partially re-recorded foley for the new 7.1 mix. That’s…well, maybe it’s understandable, but it’s surprising nonetheless.

VVI stands for Vista Vision Intermediate or Interpositive. This has been confirmed by the clips that have been named as such…

Ooooooh that makes so much sense. Thank you.

I had missed that redacted pastebin partial. Any idea what the .WI source is? The others all make sense.

very interesting that they’ve partially re-recorded foley for the new 7.1 mix. That’s…well, maybe it’s understandable, but it’s surprising nonetheless.

Honestly I hope that’s true

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

I’d still argue Ady’s might look better. Disney and Lucasfilm has had a TERRIBLE track record of quality on home video releases and I’d be willing to bet money that 4K77 and Despecialized will still look miles better than an official release.

If the leaked clips are indicative of final product… nope

But anyway, that’s a discussion for another thread

I’m flabbergasted that we’re still getting clips.

Unless it’s a backdoor plan to get unofficial feedback from technically-minded fans

Neverar is correct. Though you might be tempted to think shields look cool, the current mock-up is way too bright and eye-catching.

But actually I’m not sure you need the shields. It’s a hangar staffed entirely by robots. They don’t need atmosphere.

If this were a democratic institution, I would move that both those guys are banned just for going on and on and on

I also wonder if they won’t do a purist version (original effects) and a nicer-looking version (original but recomposited effects), with the latter being what gets released in theaters.

oojason said:

Yeah, the vimeo channel videos seem to be ‘deleted scenes’ and ‘raw elements’ type content - a few of us found them really interesting (as well as cool to look at). They could be in indicator towards a physical media release rather than just a DCP for a theatrical run. I do hope we get to see some more of those kind of videos.

The snowspeeder helicopter plate isn’t used in the film, is it? I watched “Search & Rescue” and it doesn’t seem to be in that sequence; can’t think where else it’d go

Jason, you might want to mark the following as containing obvious pre-SE visuals:

ANH

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ESB

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ROTJ

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The vimeo clips are mind boggling. Why are they digitizing unused landspeeer and snowspeeder background plate footage? Is there any reason other than recomps to digitize that asteroid? Yet the ANH clips suggest this won’t be recomposites. So, that’s pretty mysterious.

They’re certainly farther along with ANH than the other two movies. Almost nothing from the heaviest model-work sections of ESB & ROTJ.

Thanks for the confirmation of backups, Deback, and the gallery, Jason. I feel like the shots of Sy Snootles and the Sarlacc are all I need to believe this is real.

Verboten said:

By the way, did anyone backup the Vimeo stuff?

I asked this; no one answered. I assume this means “Yes but we don’t want to say so”

Broom Kid said:

They’re not going to cancel the 50th anniversary because leaks of what they’re doing for it got out years earlier and the primary reaction to it were shrugs and a bunch of people posting weird messages about how they’re probably going to get people fired.

This is kinda what I was talking about earlier: We’ve got what looks like pretty incontrovertible proof that we’re finally getting what we’ve been asking for since 2004, and nobody seems particularly happy about it now that it’s happening, LOL.

I don’t think they’re worried about us anymore, if they ever were. And they’re certainly not going to fire a bunch of folks for accidentally posting quality control clips to YouTube that led to… basically nothing. A couple reddit threads nobody seemed to believe, a YouTube video that not a whole lot of people watched, and pretty much all discussion of it being locked at starwarstrilogy.com and now this thread becoming… whatever’s happening right now in here.

The 50th Anniversary is happening. It’s clearly going to be bigger than one wide release of Star Wars, too. This SHOULD be a pretty good thing, the fact we have a very good sign it’s going to be what we’ve been wanting all this time, but not only is the reaction to all this frankly pretty MUTED, but on top of that it’s still more negative than anything.

I think that’s notable.

I think, given the history of this possibility, skepticism is understandable. Don’t count your eggs until they hatch, don’t celebrate with too much confidence until Disney actually makes it official.

Superweapon VII said:

IIRC, there’s a WEG sourcebook that established Luke spent six months on Dagobah. Wish I could make a proper citation, but the Googles do nothing.

Sadly, the relevant pages (pp. 96-100) from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook found on https://www.starwarstimeline.net/Westendgames.htm seem to be working hard to purposely avoid any mentions of actual measurements of time. The author saw the problem of space being really really really big though, and says that the Executor gets to Bespin first “easily beating the Falcon’s aged backup hyperdrive”, thus explaining how they were able to get to Bespin at all.

Did anyone have the sense to download the vimeo clips before they were taken down?