timdiggerm

Yeah, but, as 005 said, Martin Marietta was a defense contractor.

Hi!

I had never noticed the Falcon's transparency as it undocks and departs.

I found a new apartment!

All they have to do is not include Mara Jade, and there goes another chunk of EU.

Oh I almost forgot!

doubleofive said:

You're a single, non-branching, mutable timeline.

I branched your mothers' timelines last night!

Ryan McAvoy said:

Okay Tim,

re: my point in t'other thread abot Doc having a bullet-proff vest all along. Is it possible that the Doc we see at the start of BTTF1 had already met BBTF1 Marty and BTTF3 Marty and it was only the appearance of BTTF3 Marty that convinced him to read the letter but he decided to never tell young pre-BTTF1 Marty so the timeline would be maintained?

No, he didn't. At that point, Doc was not wearing a bulletproof vest. However, by the time Marty gets there at the end of the movie, Doc-without-vest never existed, except in Marty's memory. Why Marty's memory seems immutable, while the timeline changes around him, is never addressed. Apparently that's just how time travel works - Your physical body can be affected by change-propagation (see: Marty's disappearing hand), but your memories remain intact, as long as you are a time traveler.

I concede that it makes no sense, obviously.

Also does BBTF3 Cowboy Doc still have the knowledge of meeting BTTF2 Marty in BTTF2 and BTTF3 or just meeting BTTF1 Marty in BTTF1? So is BTTF3 Doc a different DOC than in BTTF1 and BTTF2? Or is BTTF3 Doc the same as BTTF1 Doc but BTTF2 Doc is in another timeline and for our Marty no longer exists?

 I need to re-read the plots of 2 & 3 to answer this question, because it's been awhile since I saw them.

I am making this post because many of youmisunderstand BTTF time travel.

BTTF has a single, non-branching, mutable timeline. Changes to the timeline propagate to the future slowly, at some sort of undefined meta-time rate. This is why Marty and his siblings start disappearing from the photo one by one (although why they do so in parts is nonsensical). If it used branching or multiple timelines, the photo would be unchanged, just from a different timeline. If the timeline was immutable, there'd be no fading problems, no mall sign change, no change in his parents' lives, etc.

A single, mutable timeline with non-instant change propagation is the only way to explain those films. It's nonsense in reality, but it's pretty consistent in the films.

DuracellEnergizer said:

timdiggerm said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

You know all those other versions of Doc Brown and Marty that were glimpsed at/implied to have existed/presumed to have done their own mucking with the timestream but whose adventures were never actually followed within the main story of the Back to the Future films?

No, I don't.

Alright, let's see if I can make myself clear on this one ...

Remember at the end of the first BTTF, in the new timeline where the Libyans gun down the Doc without killing him? Well, the Marty of that timeline ends up going off on his own trip into the past, leaving the Marty of the original timeline, who now exists within the new timeline, to take his place.

Now, the million dollar question is this: where did that other Marty go? He must have also gone backward in time to 1955 and mucked with the timestream. What affect did he have on history, though, and what kind of timeline(s) did he end up creating? We never see this happen in the movies, but it must have happened, or time travel just doesn't make any sense in the BTTF Universe (well, it already makes no sense, but anyway).

 What do you mean? It's the same Marty! He goes back in time to 1955, has a bunch of adventures involving his parents, tries to give Doc a note saying the Libyans will kill him because he just saw Doc get shot. No problem.

DuracellEnergizer said:

You know all those other versions of Doc Brown and Marty that were glimpsed at/implied to have existed/presumed to have done their own mucking with the timestream but whose adventures were never actually followed within the main story of the Back to the Future films?

No, I don't.

I guess time travel in the BTTF Universe actually does create parallel, co-existing timelines after all.

 What noooooooooooooooooooooo

Not only do we already have a thread for this kind of discussion, but I feel like you just want to promote your youtube.

Casablanca (1942)

I thought I had seen this movie. As it turns out, I had never actually watched the whole thing from start to finish. What a great film. Renneau was easily my favorite character, and the dialogue between him and Rick, as well as between Rick and Ferrarri, is great.

I'm not sure where to put this, so.

A brief behind-the-scenes look at how Critereon restores films: http://vimeo.com/84135659

Maybe -1 is actually George Lucas discretely atoning for his sins. Would explain the posting style

-George said:

it is a period of civil war

rebel spaceships striking

from a hidden base have

won their first victory

against the evil galactic

empire

later

Bingowings said:

 

I recently watched a documentary about how the Codex Sinaiticus put some got some Christians into a spin because it's version of the gospel of Mark ends with the Angel telling the Marys that Jesus had risen but they are too afraid to tell anyone.

By inference they must have told someone or God revealed this to someone else or how else are we to know the tale? But apparently to some without a more direct explanation of how the good news got out the story falls apart, even though you have miracles and the like popping up throughout the text.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark#The_ending_of_the_gospel_of_Mark

Warbler said:

timdiggerm said:

Warbler said:

can you flush toilet paper  down your toilet? 

 Did you know that not being able to do this is really normal in East Europe?

 damn.  didn't know that.  Glad I don't live there.

 Their toilets work just fine. The paper in the trashcan doesn't particularly smell for a few days. So just empty that bin regularly. Probably helps that, in typical Russian homes, the toilet is in a separate room from the sink, tub/shower, etc.

Juliet.Glitz said:

 Which one of them contains originaltrilogy knowledge?

 The stance of many on this board is undoubtedly that, unless it's the original films themselves, it's EU (Expanded Universe), not OT. As such, almost everything in those books would not be "originaltrilogy knowledge". 

Things did look a bit washed out at times. Yoda, Mace, Obi-wan's hair.

Shuttherandy

Warbler said:

can you flush toilet paper  down your toilet? 

 Did you know that not being able to do this is really normal in East Europe?

I liked 3, and I even liked the reveal (the vaults' location) of 3, but I did not like the ending of 3. Terrible ending.

Wolfman said:

Thought I would sneek this picture in just 'cos it's so damn cool and would have looked great as a scene in ESB.

 Other than spoiling the dinner surprise, of course.

cain spaans said:

why do I get the sneaky feeling George is going to ruin something in the backround.

 Because this board breeds and attracts paranoia re: Lucas

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000148/

Bingowings said:

As I point out to Warb's continued annoyance...sorry Warb, there are conspiracies. There are even government conspiracies involving UFOs. Proven conspiracies.

Citation needed?