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Wow, that really gives me some hope for the all the B/W stuff from ROTJ
Wow, that really gives me some hope for the all the B/W stuff from ROTJ
Thanks for all the kind words.
If anyone has any ideas on what kind of infographic or chart would best represent rearranging a timeline, I’m all ears.
Looking good. It would be interesting to see this as an extended grindhouse, seeing how rough is some of the footage. It’d make up for a very charming experience.
So that the final effect is not so jarring, might be good to use some version of 4K80 as the base print once that’s released
I’m really impressed that there’s as much material for the Wampa stuff as you even have here!
Quick update:
For those without Facebook…
I’m Back!!!
Well what a shit start to the year. facebook has finally given me back posting rights to this page after all he fuss with my phone number . Took them bloody long enough to accept it. I would have been back early last month but i had to go and get bloody covid. Knocked me for six and still suffering with the after effects. Energy levels of a 90 year old now. lol.
Anyway, since Facebook blocked me i decided to stay off the net and concentrate on working on ANH:R. Bloody hell i got so much done. Its surprising just how much longer its taking me to do each shot compared to when i did the same shots in the Standard Def version all those years ago. Working in HD really does slow things down. Rotoscoping especially. Things you could get away with when working in DVD res you just can’t with HD. But it will be worth it in the end.
Work on ROTJ:R, at the moment, has almost halted. I want to get ANH:R HD out of the way first. Working on both at the same time became a bit of a nightmare. Burned me out almost. That doesn’t mean to say that nothing is being done on it though. I’m about to start building some of the models that will hopefully be ready to shoot in the summer ( need the good weather to shoot some outside) . I’ll also be tacking some of the FX shots when i take a break from ANH. But the majority won’t start until ANH:R HD is complete and released
You obviously don’t know your Star Wars lore, if you didn’t think Tatooine was going to play a major part in Obi-wan Kenobi. It’s where young Luke Skywalker lives.
It’s also where Obi-wan lives.
I thought it was a fine trailer. This is not a show for space battles or even big battles. There will be some action, but it’s mostly about Obi-Wan being sad and wanting to protect Ani’s kids while the Empire is hunting for Jedi. That seems good to me.
The question is: Are the ways we interact with and view people influenced by the ways we think about our imaginary worlds?
Honestly at this point just post the clip in the thread.
Make each “episode” a TV season made up of different movies (the PT, Andor, Kenobi, Solo, R1, etc.).
I was actually thinking for a few years now how you could weave together all the various spinoffs into a Tales from a Galaxy Far, Far Away anthology series.
How different would this be from just…what they’re doing?
Maybe after Andor there will be enough pre-ANH, live-action Rebellion content to stitch it, Solo, Kenobi, and Rogue One into a movie, but I kind of doubt it. Solo has the problem of being a great prequel but which, in sequence, really comes out of left field. Who are these characters? What do they have to do with…anything??? Rogue One is better in this regard, but still not great (Hey look it’s Bail Organa! Oh he’s gone).
It used to be the original film, but the more times I watch Christmas Carol, the more times I recognize it as the greatest.
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/star-trek-chris-pine-zachary-quinto-zoe-saldana-1235021307/
I’m not optimistic about the script, given their track record, but maybe…
I guess I’ll put this here, since although it’s about a line of dialogue in Star Wars (1977), it’s more about decisions made in The Star Wars Holiday Special and/or Revenge of the Sith.
All Wookiees other than Chewbacca should have been depicted with their fur kept trimmed short. Otherwise, Leia’s “walking carpet” line makes her a terrible racist.
Glad y’all have enjoyed. I just made a big update after being given a look at a fan-scanned revised 3rd draft of the film. Definitely changed some scene orderings & script details. I’ve also included links to relevant videos throughout, a few more storyboards that have appeared online, and a look on the Sources page into what storyboards typically look like.
The only big thing I’d like to do, other than get the missing storyboards, is do a detailed analysis of how things were rearranged in the editing process. Maybe someday!
It does seem like the Holdo maneuver’s look was based that storyboard, but I think it’s ultimately a misinterpretation of what was intended; the ROTJ scene is showing a Starcruiser exploding alongside a Stardestroyer, due to what I’d characterize as the Star-Wars-equivalent of Star Trek’s Warp Core Breach. The ship is so damaged its reactor goes critical or whatever. So they drew that picture to convey the intensity of the explosion, and decades later its used as inspiration for a very different event on screen.
Well, it took me a little more than two months, but this thread directly lead to my storyboard-based reconstruction: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Reconstructing-the-end-of-ROTJ-with-Storyboards/id/92274
I have attempted to reconstruct the shooting script & various other plans for ROTJ’s final third using scanned storyboards available online as my primary source. This took some time, and also used behind the scenes videos, the Rinzler book, etc. I have done my best to document the whole thing here:
https://macrobinoculars.wordpress.com/
It may be interesting to some of you to read through the whole thing, though I find the Space Battle and Rebel Assault sequences to be the most interesting. Do not neglect the Analysis page, which has some really interesting behind-the-scenes photos of storyboards. Please note that you can download a big PDF with all of the storyboards for your own use.
I welcome any questions, suggestions, critiques, or (best of all) any scans or photos of storyboards that I’m missing.
This is my favorite storyboard that I found during the process:

I suspect Boba is fine with the spice trade on Tatooine when it’s run by Tatooiners, with the citizens of Tatooine benefiting. The Pyke Syndicate moving into Tatooine and taking everything over does not meet that standard.
Either that is setting up him trying to follow the ancient Jedi dogma too strictly and failing as he indicates in TLJ
I mean, it’s not like The Story Group is going to pretend the sequels aren’t canon.
They could have had Din tell Fennec “I’ve got to go see the kid” at the end of one episode, and then he shows up at the Palace in the next episode, having visited the kid. Then in Mando Season 3, include all the stuff with him and the Armorer, him and Ahsoka, even the Luke and Grogu scenes (but probably less of those. It was gratuitous).
Sure, but why are these scenes in this show? Why aren’t they just in Mando s3?
This episode had a lot of cool things in it, but that doesn’t make it a good episode. What was the plot? Mando goes places, and then the camera stays in that place after he leaves, for some reason. Sometimes things happen (Gunfight at Freetown), sometimes things don’t (everything with Luke). Again, individually those things might be “cool”, but they do not together a cohesive episode make.
It’s possible they pulled out the old miniature, updated it, and intentionally shot it to match the old camera movements
Interesting how much they’re throwing in the prequel references. This latest episode featured Din flying a Naboo starfighter, which he built with the help of pit droids, through the Beggar’s Canyon podracer route. All Phantom Menace iconography.
and he said “Wizard!”
The real problem is that Victory Celebration is very bland and of-its-time, while Yub Nub is super cheesy, and increasingly so the louder the choir gets (and unbearably so once they switch to English).