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Glad y’all have enjoyed. I just made a big update after being given a look at a fan-scanned revised 3rd draft of the film. Definitely changed some scene orderings & script details. I’ve also included links to relevant videos throughout, a few more storyboards that have appeared online, and a look on the Sources page into what storyboards typically look like.

The only big thing I’d like to do, other than get the missing storyboards, is do a detailed analysis of how things were rearranged in the editing process. Maybe someday!

It does seem like the Holdo maneuver’s look was based that storyboard, but I think it’s ultimately a misinterpretation of what was intended; the ROTJ scene is showing a Starcruiser exploding alongside a Stardestroyer, due to what I’d characterize as the Star-Wars-equivalent of Star Trek’s Warp Core Breach. The ship is so damaged its reactor goes critical or whatever. So they drew that picture to convey the intensity of the explosion, and decades later its used as inspiration for a very different event on screen.

Well, it took me a little more than two months, but this thread directly lead to my storyboard-based reconstruction: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Reconstructing-the-end-of-ROTJ-with-Storyboards/id/92274

I have attempted to reconstruct the shooting script & various other plans for ROTJ’s final third using scanned storyboards available online as my primary source. This took some time, and also used behind the scenes videos, the Rinzler book, etc. I have done my best to document the whole thing here:

https://macrobinoculars.wordpress.com/

It may be interesting to some of you to read through the whole thing, though I find the Space Battle and Rebel Assault sequences to be the most interesting. Do not neglect the Analysis page, which has some really interesting behind-the-scenes photos of storyboards. Please note that you can download a big PDF with all of the storyboards for your own use.

I welcome any questions, suggestions, critiques, or (best of all) any scans or photos of storyboards that I’m missing.

This is my favorite storyboard that I found during the process:

I suspect Boba is fine with the spice trade on Tatooine when it’s run by Tatooiners, with the citizens of Tatooine benefiting. The Pyke Syndicate moving into Tatooine and taking everything over does not meet that standard.

jedi_bendu said:

Either that is setting up him trying to follow the ancient Jedi dogma too strictly and failing as he indicates in TLJ

I mean, it’s not like The Story Group is going to pretend the sequels aren’t canon.

They could have had Din tell Fennec “I’ve got to go see the kid” at the end of one episode, and then he shows up at the Palace in the next episode, having visited the kid. Then in Mando Season 3, include all the stuff with him and the Armorer, him and Ahsoka, even the Luke and Grogu scenes (but probably less of those. It was gratuitous).

Sure, but why are these scenes in this show? Why aren’t they just in Mando s3?

This episode had a lot of cool things in it, but that doesn’t make it a good episode. What was the plot? Mando goes places, and then the camera stays in that place after he leaves, for some reason. Sometimes things happen (Gunfight at Freetown), sometimes things don’t (everything with Luke). Again, individually those things might be “cool”, but they do not together a cohesive episode make.

It’s possible they pulled out the old miniature, updated it, and intentionally shot it to match the old camera movements

jedi_bendu said:

Interesting how much they’re throwing in the prequel references. This latest episode featured Din flying a Naboo starfighter, which he built with the help of pit droids, through the Beggar’s Canyon podracer route. All Phantom Menace iconography.

and he said “Wizard!”

The real problem is that Victory Celebration is very bland and of-its-time, while Yub Nub is super cheesy, and increasingly so the louder the choir gets (and unbearably so once they switch to English).

Kingj3489 said:

adywan said:

There will be no post credits scene in ROTJ:R. I’m in the process of rewriting the change list for the first post which will go more in-depth as to the changes planned. But i can say that Yub Nub and Lapti Nek will be back. I’ve always hated the two new tracks that replaced those.

Oh wow, I don’t know that I’ve heard anyone say that before.
Yub Nub is great but the victory celebration track is one of the best tracks in the entire saga!

You may want to give this thread a read.

So, if the music at the end of ep 4 means what it obviously ought to mean, Mando (and maybe others??) are going to show up as hired guns soon. In-universe, it’s been several weeks, at the very least, since we left Mando, Bo-Katan, Fennec, et al on the bridge of their commandeered Imperial cruiser. What did happen after the end of Season 2, and how did Fennec then meet-up with Fett and head for Tatooine? Where is Mando now, and what’s the status of his sword-feud with Bo-Katan? Does this mean there’ll be a bit of a time jump between Mando seasons 2 & 3? What will that do to the tension between him and Bo? I have questions.

So…

Why is Boba doing this stuff? Why did he go back to Tatooine, kill Bib and declare himself Daimyo? It doesn’t take much Wikipedia to confirm that, in feudal Japan, daimyo served under shogun. If that applies here, who was Jabba’s shogun???

sade1212 said:

The slow car chase was hilarious though; between episode 1 and 3 of this and his Mando episode, Rodriguez does seem to struggle with action scenes.

The crazy part about this, to me, is that supposedly he’s an action movie director! However, I have not seen his films, other than Spy Kids.

Yeah, not only does the gang look like they belong on a different planet in a different movie, but the car chase was lame, felt too staged. It was bad.

The rancor feels a little silly

Rodney-2187 said:

I wonder if the original actors are still around. Can you imagine being cut from the first Star Wars movie. I think it would be nice if they at least got cameos somewhere in Star Wars, even of they’re just sitting at a bar or something.

Koo Stark and Anthony Forrest are indeed both still around

I think the differences in the Tusken camp & costumes from AOTC are pretty easily explainable: Different tribe, different customs

I got the impression that the Tuskens had the kid take Boba & the Rodian out into the desert specifically to show them the swoopgang problem in their area.

Oh, here is a painting from the Rinzler Making Of book

Says it’s by Joe Johnston, June 1981. Would never have guessed it reached the maquette stage of development. Seems like a reasonable guess at the inspiration for ROS’s orbaks.

I came across this auction from last summer and was extremely surprised to see this:

What is that furry thing? What are any of those things?

This could almost fit into the small details thread, but I don’t think it’s particularly obscure.

I wonder why they (Kershner?) decided it was so important to make sure Lando demonstrated proper safety protocols by wearing a safety harness & clipping in when getting onto the Falcon’s roof and grabbing Luke under Cloud City. It’s also such a shame any shots of Lando actually on the roof of the Falcon grabbing Luke were cut.

True, but then he has to escape without the armor, and the armor has to get off of his body while he’s still inside the Sarlaac. I think an extended recovery period with the Sandpeople is more plausible.

I figure the timeline is as follows

• Fett is eaten by the Almighty Sarlaac
• Within a few weeks or even days, Fett kills and, or at least escapes the Almighty Sarlaac. He is badly injured, unconscious, dying on the sands from the deed.
• Jawas come for any useful scrap from the sail barge wreckage. They also strip the immobile and barely conscious Fett.
• Sandpeople find Fett and bring him home, caring for him until he recovers
• Recovery takes awhile

I was thinking more about this, and I wonder if the Executor’s demise is from before Black Friday. It is infamously not all that good looking, but maybe have been deemed to difficult to recreate. Purely speculative, but it’s the one part of the extant space battle footage that looks bad.