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Grievous = Maul is certainly something for faneditors & animators to consider completing.

adywan said:

so fan editors are going to love to play around with this.

Obviously, the entire paragraph here about ROTJ stuff is super-exciting, particularly because we've all got ridiculous expectations for ROTJ:R.

Thanks for doing the writeup on this stuff Ady; it's much appreciated!

twooffour said:

Sorry, nope. The same thing could be said about ANY choking scene ever put in a movie - the difference between that and erotic asphyxiation (the reason David Carradine died) is that the choking is inflicted as a means to kill.

Leia wanted to kill Jabba. The end.

Although I never quite got how... was Jabba's neck at his back??

Well.... There's a bit of a sexual element between Leia and Jabba. Jabba wants Leia, makes her wear that bikini, licks her face... Leia is revolted. That's about as far as it gets, but it is sexual.

As for choking Jabba, she's putting the chain around where his neck would be, were he a human, and pulling. That, I suppose, is how you strangle someone, more or less. She's on his back because she has to stand behind him, but he's huge.

There's a thread somewhere on here about it, but the most relevant stuff can be seen on this page

As someone who was there in Baltimore and saw it, I can say that the print was not pristine, but it was pretty darned amazing. There was definitely dirt on it, but not a whole lot. It was beautiful.

I'd say that the two things I learned about Star Wars at that showing were that the colors should be pretty vivid (although the photos of the screen overdo the contrast a bit), and it should definitely look like it was made in the 70s.

Yeah, actually... the closing shot of ROTJ does a really good job of saying "Jedi wear brown robes".

Never mind.

As for fanedits, I'm sure they'll use uspcales of the dvd deleted scenes. It won't be perfect, but it'll have to do.

Sadly, I doubt there's a good way to recolor every jedi robe to black. I'm not very knowledgeable about such things, but I doubt it.

hairy_hen said:

Also, some of our more perspective-lacking members might want to seriously think about getting some kind of counseling or treatment.  Willful failure to restore and release a series of films <<<<<<<<< war crimes.  Seriously—stow it with the depressive crap already.

I'm glad someone said this. It's true.

Point taken, particularly about the movement. I don't mind a little PT in my OT if we're trying to tie them together as a saga (as both Ady and Lucas are doing, really), but point taken.

I feel like "shoving" is a bit of an overstatement. I, for one, rather liked the addition of the battle droid head in the Jawa's crawler in Revisited.

an FAQ with this sort of info that no one reads?

You're going to want to start with the links provided in this post: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/doubleofives-List-of-Lists-and-Comparisons/topic/11575/#TopicPost416817

005 hasn't added it to his list yet, but his 2011 Blu-Ray list is here: https://picasaweb.google.com/102542760950977079734/StarWars2011Changes

Those suggestions were good, other than the pan/zoom on the exterior shot. It doesn't add "interest", but it does looks fake.

darth_ender said:

There is quite a bit of room for gray area with them.

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

Some of those lines are really awful.

On the other hand, I do like "Enjoy your trip, hotshot"

xhonzi said:

Which is why I think the "[REDACTED] movie would have been great if it had been rated 'R'" comment* I see so much is just dumb.

Great movies are great movies, despite their ratings- not because of them.

But a great movie can be made worse by cutting out certain parts in order to achieve a lower and more marketable rating.

I think it's mostly the Gungans that stand out as being truly awful.

That's not even the ceiling, that's some closer, overhanging thing. A walkway or something, perhaps? Note how the metal pole on the left is cut off, because that thing is in front of it. It's just that its corner and the corner of the room happen to line up.

I mean... it is higher bandwidth/lower compression. Anyone want to explain why that's not true?

I never really thought about that, msycamore. You've got the blade, the remote and all the little chess men. That's a lot!

retartedted said:

What we should also probably be looking at is comparison shots of heavy action scenes, where the compression of an HDTV broadcast would really work against it.

I'd just like to second this request.

I would say... more whatever looks good.

The newer one is slightly better, but the illumination is pretty crazy. Why are there light sources on either side?

Anyway, Harmy said it best.

I'll be the voice of dissent and say that it doesn't look cool. It's less convincing than the original.

lordsidi said:

Thanks,Sluggo. I too could'nt stand the change in "Greedo vs. Han"scene. I'll admit it,I'm a Star Wars superfan and even though I've never dressed up at a convention or wear star wars shirts,hats,etc...I cherish the movies. I read alot of VERY in depth,technical complaints on here and i've shook my head at the anger shown but this is the real first time Ive understood. I also so a youtube clip of "obi wans' krayt dragon yell"......holy sh*t, ...in the name of god what was wrong with the ORIGINAL yell?? Nothing. All I can do is thank my lucky stars for the guys on here who've put their blood,sweat and tears into restoring the originals and now even in HD. I'm a sucker and prob will get the new blu ray set to enjoy the crisp HD picture and for the extras....but in my mind these are NOT my Star Wars movies.

If you have any advice on how to best approach other people who think the in-depth, technical is a little crazy to at least get their support on this sort of thing... we could probably use the advice?