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darth_ender said:

There is quite a bit of room for gray area with them.

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

Some of those lines are really awful.

On the other hand, I do like "Enjoy your trip, hotshot"

xhonzi said:

Which is why I think the "[REDACTED] movie would have been great if it had been rated 'R'" comment* I see so much is just dumb.

Great movies are great movies, despite their ratings- not because of them.

But a great movie can be made worse by cutting out certain parts in order to achieve a lower and more marketable rating.

I think it's mostly the Gungans that stand out as being truly awful.

That's not even the ceiling, that's some closer, overhanging thing. A walkway or something, perhaps? Note how the metal pole on the left is cut off, because that thing is in front of it. It's just that its corner and the corner of the room happen to line up.

I mean... it is higher bandwidth/lower compression. Anyone want to explain why that's not true?

I never really thought about that, msycamore. You've got the blade, the remote and all the little chess men. That's a lot!

retartedted said:

What we should also probably be looking at is comparison shots of heavy action scenes, where the compression of an HDTV broadcast would really work against it.

I'd just like to second this request.

I would say... more whatever looks good.

The newer one is slightly better, but the illumination is pretty crazy. Why are there light sources on either side?

Anyway, Harmy said it best.

I'll be the voice of dissent and say that it doesn't look cool. It's less convincing than the original.

lordsidi said:

Thanks,Sluggo. I too could'nt stand the change in "Greedo vs. Han"scene. I'll admit it,I'm a Star Wars superfan and even though I've never dressed up at a convention or wear star wars shirts,hats,etc...I cherish the movies. I read alot of VERY in depth,technical complaints on here and i've shook my head at the anger shown but this is the real first time Ive understood. I also so a youtube clip of "obi wans' krayt dragon yell"......holy sh*t, ...in the name of god what was wrong with the ORIGINAL yell?? Nothing. All I can do is thank my lucky stars for the guys on here who've put their blood,sweat and tears into restoring the originals and now even in HD. I'm a sucker and prob will get the new blu ray set to enjoy the crisp HD picture and for the extras....but in my mind these are NOT my Star Wars movies.

If you have any advice on how to best approach other people who think the in-depth, technical is a little crazy to at least get their support on this sort of thing... we could probably use the advice?

Anchorhead said:

I have to say I'm very surprised at the BR outrage.  Given the way Lucas treats Star Wars, how could anyone not think there were going to be a myriad of unnecessary, lied-about, prequel-tie-in, and just plain weird alterations to the first three films?

I'd say that "NOOOOO" in ROTJ is the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. Does that make sense?

Fang Zei said:

-The blinking eyes - so now they've actually created a continuity problem as the ewoks don't blink in the ewok movies.

You're assuming those are in any meaningful canon

-Han's de-freezing: You have got to be kidding me! Just like Jabba's new door, it looks terrible. What was the rationale for this anyway?

Well, it's always looked terrible.

It's almost as if Lucas is ashamed of the early 80's optical effects that don't gel with the look of the prequels, so he's just slathering it in bad photoshop.

...where have you been for the last 13 years?

/thread

I'm very skeptical of the idea that any boycott will send a meaningful message to Lucas, as the number of people who will buy the blurays is just too big.

I suggest a new strategy: Rather than focusing on "Don't buy the Blu-Rays because the changes suck", focus on "Wait to buy the eventual Original, unchanged release".

1. Hopefully has just as much of an impact, revenue-wise (however small that may be)
2. Focuses on a positive "Wait to buy" rather than a negative "Don't buy!"
3. Sets up the expectation of that as of yet unpromised release.

Adium said:

At this point, I think we have a better chance of convincing a collector to sell... heck, TEMPORARILY LEND his technicolor print and make that into something watchable rather than wait for Lucas to release the films on blu ray in respectable quality.

We just need him to lend it to someone who can do a 35mm telecine or scan of some kind. As far as I know, that's not actually anyone of the regular posters on this forum?

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

Tyrphanax said:

No no. I mean in-universe. Perhaps lightsabers just change colour slightly depending on certain conditions.

No, no, no! That way lies madness!

 

Wookieepedia said:

You called?

none said:

that's a good time to start rolling out Doubleofive's SE comparisons

To be fair, most people don't  care about redone wipes. At what point does the meticulousness overwhelm and become a turnoff?

Bingowings said:

It would be interesting hear which new changes are 'salvageable' some of them clearly are not but is there anything new worth keeping or working on? 

Depends on your purpose. For things like Revisited, Ewok-Eyes might be worth keeping. The lack of Humdinger is probably worth keeping, depending on the quality of the fix.

twooffour said:

Woah, woah, hey, woah, hey hey, woah, woah!

AICN coverage is good. Excellent.

Good things about the Blu-Ray changes:

1. The concept of the bigger Jabba's door shot is nice. It's clearly poorly executed, but I like the idea.

2. The Ewok eyes is much like Jabba's door, but I don't seem to think it looks as bad as you guys do.

3. Han's unfreezing seems a bit better. It's still not that great, but any improvement is nice, because that effect has always been awful.

aaaaaand that's about it.

TV's Frink said:

This thread is giving me great ideas for my eventual Ridiculous edits of the OT.

Aren't those coming out on blu-ray soon?

bkev said:

REALLY? That's pointless. Beyond belief.

It's not pointless at all. Clearly someone at Lucasfilm loves 005 and just wants to give him more to do with his hobby!

Ah, but it does make the films rhyme more.

I'm surprised you read it, to be honest. I thought it was too long.

but sometimes disaster must be appreciated.