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Here at OT.com, we don't usually care what Wookieepedia says, because we try to stick to a films-only canon.

On the plus side, maybe the new version of AOTC will have Williams' proper score? Maybe? ....

twooffour said:

tldr; I brought it up as a joke, in the "presenting long chewed pet peeves as a novelty" sense.

Well... now I feel silly.

tl;dr - Relativity makes it all work, and makes Luke's life make more sense as a bonus.

twooffour said:
Oh... and... SOLO HAD NO LIGHTSPEED BUT MADE IT TO BESPIN!! PLOTHOLE!!!!

This has been discussed ad nauseum, but I'll explain the "No it's fine" side:

Bespin is not too far away from Hoth. Not in the same planetary system, but nearby. We do not know how long it takes them to get to Bespin. In fact, all we know for sure is that while they're en route:

• Luke trains with Yoda
• Boba Fett follows them without being noticed
• Vader waits for his bounty hunters to report back

Vader waiting has no real time problems. The man can wait with the starfleet doing Imperial things for as long as he needs. He's not likely to find the Falcon during this gap, as the Falcon is flying in the big empty spaces between star systems and that's just not very easy to search. Besides, he's counting on the bounty hunters to turn something up whenever the Falcon reemerges at spaceport from wherever they disappeared to (remember, Vader doesn't actually know where they went).

The longer Luke trains with Yoda, the more plausible ROTJ becomes, as he can learn loads and loads from Yoda, but only really get the practice and meditation he needs to be a Jedi in between ESB & ROTJ (thus explaining why he's not so much a Jedi during the ESB duel). This is, for me, the biggest thing in favor of the Hoth->Bespin journey being long.

As for the Falcon and Slave 1 flying for so long... They don't have hyperdrive, only their engines. Spaceship engines are never really well explained in Star Wars (because it's a space opera, thank god), so we don't actually know much about how much they can accelerate a ship, for how long, fueling, etc. However, if we assume that they just put the engines on FULL-GO-FAST for the whole trip, then perhaps we can say that they spend the whole trip accelerating up to as near lightspeed as they can go. Relativistic effects become noticeable, and the occupants of both the Falcon and Slave 1 experience a far shorter journey than Luke does while training. In this way, we solve their food problems.

No, I don't know how Fett manages to not be detected. Perhaps he follows (somehow stealthily) for a short period, long enough to get their heading and extrapolate where they're going, then turns off the engines andlets them fly away a little longer so they won't notice him when hyperdrives back to civilization to bounty hunter things. Later, knowing approximately when they'd arrive at Bespin, he informs Vader and they all hyperdrive to Bespin just before the Falcon arrives.

And yes, I'm introducing relativistic effects in a movie series where spaceships move like WWII fighter planes.

Yeah, the hint really did defeat the purpose.

doubleKO said:

Also, why doesn't Luke just use the force on the switch for the Rancor's cage instead of throwing the damn skull?

Would have been another good way to prove his Jedi-ness, huh?

To be honest, Obi-wan gives enough funny faces when meeting the droids in ANH that I don't see an inconsistency there.

3P0 and R2 aren't together and thus are not the true main characters for large parts of the PT.

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Bingowings said:

Or maybe Boba Fett's gun can fire it's barrel as a projectile weapon.

Don't say it! The EU will include it in a book!

Thanks!

But why big images containing text? It's inefficient and makes the page slower. I guess I can understand having the pictures of the characters (although I think we all know what they look like), but you can easily have just the little pictures along with regular text, instead of great-big-image-files.

We can't see giant images that get cut off because they're too wide.

Also, approximately none of that looks like it actually needs to be an image, which mean it's essentially wasting bandwidth. Text please.

I think generally your mockups feel pretty high-contrast, modern-television to me. Maybe that's what he means?

It's been documented elsewhere, but I can't remember where. Thus:

There are three robed prunefaces on the right

and here's one getting onto the shuttle behind Han, as part of the commando crew

And here's Wookieepedia's article about their leader: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Orrimaarko

I think it's the other way around. The end goal was Sith domination of the Galaxy - the ideologies of the Empire were just the tool most useful at the time for attaining those.

I honestly don't think that a painting of Boba Fett riding the lizard from ROTS implies anything about a Holiday Special Easter Egg. Yes, Boba Fett rode a dinosaur thing in the Special, but that's just... It doesn't imply anything.

To be fair, the DSII does take time to blow up. Remember that the Falcon has a wall of flame behind it for its entire journey out. I'm not sure the explosion we then see from a distance makes a lot of sense, but it's certainly not instantaneous.

Small note: I was thinking about the DS explosions, and about how most of us want to see the shockwave gone from ANH.

I'm actually not sure I feel the same way about ROTJ. The collapse of the reactor makes the shockwave make more sense in ROTJ, it looks pretty cool the Falcon at the end, and it makes a nice visual distinction between the DS and DSII explosions.

In which the helmet maker in question demonstrates making a helmet

And if you want to see a very nice group composite, including a better view of Thorin, you should click here

You made good points!

That last set is basically what I want any OT cover set to look like. Wowzers.

Wookieepedia said:

The canonicity of the events depicted in the original Star Tours experience has been disputed for many reasons, the most obvious being the inclusion of the Death Star. Since R2-D2's presence onboard the Starspeeder 3000 precludes the events taking place during the Battle of Yavin or the Battle of Endor, the Death Star seen in the ride video has been considered by some to be the Death Star prototype, as seen in Jedi Search and Champions of the Force and its destruction to be a depiction of the prototype's destruction at The Maw. However, it does not match that prototype's skeletal construction and R2-D2 is accounted for during that event, as well. Also, the Star Tours Death Star is very close to Endor, far from the Maw's location. This may indicate it is a so far unrevealed Death Star, or that the ride's events are simply not canonical. Others have suggested that the Death Star is one of the modified habitation spheres seen under construction over Coruscant. Leland Chee has tentatively named it the Death Star III.

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Bingowings said:

Great idea but it would be in my view even better if the scouts were cremating their own men to cover up the hellhole they were working in.

The audience would be thinking "What the hell did that to them?", then our heroes are captured by these things too and then we meet the Ewoks.

Suddenly the teddy bears turn into guerrillas.

This is a great point.