timdiggerm

Yeah, it's just the same crushed black as everywhere else in all three films.

Also, this is the wrong thread.

No, it looks to me like even in the GOUT, the middle of the ship was in shadow. The 2004 version, darker and with the crushed blacks, turns that shadow into empty space.

But... he's not acting?

Well, here's a relevant video: 4 year old kid learns Vader is Luke's father

Fenriz said:

I read that the Dark Jedi Versions use alot of picture softening, which is not very true to me

Not so much that there's picture softening on DJ's part, but just that he's working from a fairly low-quality source.

That makes a lot of sense, unfortunately. As I think I mentioned somewhere else on this great big forum, The Maker Movement comes to mind. Unfortunately, I can't find a good article summing the whole thing up, but it's basically people that make stuff. And by stuff I mean anything. There are things called "hackerspaces" in some cities now, where people get together to work on projects, and these projects include Book Scanners, 3d Printers, CNC Machines, as well as more mundane stuff. Given that these guys often have the ability to fabricate their own parts, I don't know why a 35mm scanner or telecine or whatever would be beyond their abilities.

Of course, with the Maker Movement, there is no real "they", because anyone could get involved. Still, I bet it's doable.

Oh, I guess I should have asked this here:

Why is 35mm equipment so much more expensive than 16mm?

Puggo, if I may derail this further...

What makes a 35mm system so much more expensive than a 16mm? Obviously the film is twice as big, but I don't understand why this would make a huge difference.

Oh gosh, left or right, I just can't decide!

Just wanted to point out...

WhatsMyName said:

4. Wasn't it always meant for luke and leia to be bro and sis?

No, it was not.

But a star wars movie without Han Solo, doesn't make it  star wars. PT exempt.

This makes no sense

Somehow, The Tyrphanax Look just isn't grabbing me.

Personally, I loved Battle of the Heroes in ANHR.

In response to complaints that my avatar has changed and complaints that I now resemble Anchorhead(ohgodnothtat), I'm starting a new contest, entitled "What should my avatar be?", where "my avatar" refer's to the avatar of the user timdiggerm, who is me.

Now accepting entries!

That explains the difference perfectly.

ray_afraid said:

(damned avatar changes!)

Yeah, I know what you mean. It confuses the heck out of me every time someone does that. But the Lego fad was over, so...

even when it's done mockingly it still annoys me. 

Good point. I'm not gonna edit the post, but I'll remember this for the future

So, I apologize, sir.

Apology accepted, Capta... I mean... Apology accepted.

You're no dick.

Thanks! :)

But in case anyone was questioning my gender, I do have one.

In other news, I am just as skeptical about Ady's PT, but eagerly await it nonetheless. I assume it will be out by the time I have grandchildren?

(Note: I'm not even married yet)

...I hate to explain parody, because explaining jokes kills jokes, but it's apparently necessary.

I'm not saying the PT is worse than the Holocaust. I was parodying the extremes to which some people go when talking about the PT.  If you've never witnessed some of what goes on in General Star Wars Discussion... well, you won't get the joke, but you're probably better of having never seen it.

The Holocaust was a terrible tragedy and an evil act, right up there in the "Worst 10 Things People Ever Did" list (no, I don't have this list). The Prequels are not good movies, but obviously nothing at all like killing millions of people. I'm not sure why anyone would think I meant that, but there it is anyway - an explanation.

Please note that I was also parodying how much people love ESB and the endless thanks that gets poured out here (not that's it's not deserved). My biggest mistake, really, was the idea that we'd actually get 10 posts on topic.

Now the real trick would be to get real musicians to record the missing bit, for fanedits.

Cue 10 people thanking Ady for all the hard work he's put in to deleting those files, just so he can be sure to do the best movie ever made (ESB, obvs) only after he's had sufficient practice on fixing a travesty worse than the Holocaust (the PT, of course).

Pretty sure it switches to synthesizers - The actual recorded version by Williams & LSO isn't available :(

I wonder if anyone in the Maker Movement has thought about this...

...Seriously, we're making fun of a guy who was in some movies for not being as thin as he was when he was little? Really guys?

Well, you can... not read certain threads... I guess?

In the strictest sense, a preservation of the GOUT would be a rip of the DVD, available online after GOUT discs are no longer available in stores. It would preserve the GOUT release for future viewing, and nothing more. By that very, very strict definition of a preservation, V3 is not a preservation, because it is not an exact copy of the GOUT. It has been resized/cropped so as to appear correctly on widescreen TVs, and the colors have been fixed. Now, I think we all agree that this was a really great idea, because it puts the GOUT looking a whole lot more like the theatrical version, as it should, but it doesn't meet the strictest possibly definition of a preservation.

Thankfully, we're not using that strict of a definition of "preservation" on this forum.

TV's Frink said:

This isn't a preservation project?  It's in the wrong forum if that's the case.

Depends on how you define preservation. Harmy's DEs don't preserve any particular release of the films literally, but they intend to do their best to preserve the content of the original versions in the highest quality they can. It's exactly what most people want in a preservation, even if it isn't really a preservation.

Of course, I guess you could also say that DJ's not preserving any particular release of the films as he's editing the GOUT... from a certain point of view.

Perhaps Harmy's work, as well as Hairy Hen's, are best described as "Recreations".

For the average person (ie not someone who cares about matte lines) visiting this forum for the first time, both DJ's and Harmy's work seem like good options, because they want the original trilogy and they're told those two are the best. They're told to check out both, so a comparison is inevitable. But for those people, Harmy's will probably win, because it's inherently higher resolution (finer detail).

And then they'll say so, because they don't understand the different goals. And then DJ will post, and then Harmy will agree.