It's a good thing Ady doesn't really care about this thread?
I don't believe so, no.
Just wanted to draw attention to this...
My friend Peter, who was also at the screening and whose photos have been featured on savestarwars.com, just got around to uploading his videos from the screening. He, himself, points out that there are a million problems with them, but so it goes. I'm not sure if they're at all useful, though maybe the entrance into Mos Eisley could help Harmy, and they do a nice job of demonstrating, once again, the quality of the IB print, but they're at least plenty enjoyable for the crowd reactions in certain places. Anyways, they'rre on pages 3 and 4 of his gallery. This link should start you off, I think? http://photos.petergaultney.com/Movies/historic/Star-Wars-at-The-Senator/13089279_chpNjq#948713561_WKZxo
There's never been any problem with Lando being in the palace without an entrance-explanation-scene. Now, true, he wasn't nearly as talkative as Threepio, but I don't see why Threepio can't be pretending to be any old droid working as Jabba's translator. Similarly, when Artoo turns up on the barge, he's undercover. Luke's holomessage to Jabba isn't even necessary.
Maybe find a stopmotion guy to make the stopmotion Jabba head that never was....
Maybe not.
That is, indeed, "NOOOOOOOOOO!" inducing.
Zero said:
a beach party sequel to THX 1138.
Just wanted to point out that this is a fantastic idea.
So...
Luke ignites the saber, sees it works.
Vader emerges from the fog once again, ghost like, in slow motion.
Luke rises, raises his saber, and turns it off as Vader swings.
Just as Vader would make contact, slicing through Luke, he instead fades away, no more than a vision, now conquered.
In his hovel, Yoda smiles.
Eh?
The new Luke shots would all be from behind, thus making it possible to film them with someone who isn't 1983-Mark-Hamill. The Yoda shot... not sure about that.
After some thought, I think that's a better idea. That way, we get to keep the opening scene with the Star Destroyer and all.
That was really great. Glad someone put it together so quickly.
But it's so short, I wonder why it was cut!
So that's what he's holding! His own leg!
Right, I actually think that works. I'm wondering if there's not a good way to restore Vader calling out to Luke (ROTJ Deleted scenes)... but instead of listening on Tatooine, he's on Dagobah, in the hut, leading right into Yoda's death.
zombie84 said:
(and yes--to me, the composite is the effect; a model against bluescreen is not the visual effect, anyone can film that, it was the way they were put together that was pioneering).
I thought a large amount of the innovation was the really good motion control system they built, which relates more to the actual filming of the individual models than it does the compositing?
As a less-crazy version of Bingo's idea, perhaps Obi-wan could use the Force to stir up a little sandstorm around him as he runs towards the Tuskens. More impressive than his floppy robe.
There's a big difference between making a giant puppet that sits next to/under people blink and making a mask on a little person blink.
Thought:
We don't actually need anything in Jabba's Palace until Leia & Chewie arrive. If you establish in the crawl that folks are already infiltrating the Palace, then Threepio's presence is explained. Artoo, meanwhile, we don't see until he's serving drinks on the barge. Threepio's reaction is sufficient to introduce the idea that Artoo has infiltrated the Palace, much like Lando. This opens the door for Luke & Yoda moving to the beginning of the movie without problem (seeing as he needs Artoo with him in the X-Wing).
I had concerns about how this removes the introduction to Jabba and his Palace that the droids experience, but it may still work. I'd recommend an establishing shot of "Boushh" and a chained Chewbacca walking towards the Palace before cutting to the dance inside.
The only real problem I see is that Luke will have waited an awful long time to actually ask "Is Darth Vader my father?"... and what to do about everything once they return to The Fleet. I mean, Luke's current introduction is pretty nonsensical, but how to fix it?
TV's Frink said:
FINAL VERDICT: A MUST BUY DUE TO THE INCLUSION OF AN EXTRA RIC OLIE SCENE
Please include in TRM with the best new bluescreen effects you can manage
As I understand it, the 2004 & 2011 releases suffer from “crushed blacks”, where areas which previously contained varying levels of darkness have been flattened to straight blackness, losing detail.
I was wondering… would it be possible to replace those crushed areas with the equivalent areas from DJ’s V3 or some similar source? Obviously those areas would be blurry compared to the rest of the frame, but at the same time they are awfully dark, so perhaps it wouldn’t be as noticeable.
Thoughts from people who actually know what they’re talking about would be great.
Ho-ly crap that was amazing. Obviously this is going to need loads of work, but I like it a lot. It's probably worth storyboarding precisely and figuring out what new shots are needed (many, obviously). Try to avoid reusing footage from the films, and try to figure out how to transition from Vader to this scene... and from this scene to whatever comes next.
Yeah, but it's not the version we'd actually like to see released. The missing Falcon dish is evidence enough that it's not quite the finished product. In the world of software (which is where I work), it'd be 0.9 or something.
Angel said:
doubleofive said:
I can say that the donation drive went very well, though! We thank you for your generosity, we'll all benefit from it soon enough!
"We?"
Are you the official spokesman?It must be tough :/
He does run the official site.
xhonzi said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Tobar said:
The thing that bothers me that I've always noticed is X-Wing ladders. Once he climbs into the cockpit, if there's no crew there he has to just cast off the ladder to the ground. How many of those do you think he goes through? =P
Yeah, that bothered me as well.
Ladders? Why would he need a ladder when R2 can just boost him up there with his rockets? Why does he need an X-Wing when R2 can just take him where he wants to go?
Silly xhonzi, everyone knows that Artoo's rockets are broken, and the warranty ran out just before ANH starts!
Zero said:
timdiggerm said:
Zero said:
Nevertheless, I know that the deleted scenes can be cleaned up enough to look acceptable on a standard definition DVD. Especially if it is edited into the original 1977 version that was released in 2006.
Let me recommend you get ahold of Dark Jedi's V3 Preservation. It's the 2006 GOUT (George's Original Untouched Trilogy) release, but made anamorphic, color-balanced, etc. That's the version you're looking for.
I'm having trouble finding that. (I could use some help.) I'll keep looking. Thanks for the excellent suggestion.
Here's the V3 Project thread. As it says, they're available on myspleen.
Zero said:
Nevertheless, I know that the deleted scenes can be cleaned up enough to look acceptable on a standard definition DVD. Especially if it is edited into the original 1977 version that was released in 2006.
Let me recommend you get ahold of Dark Jedi's V3 Preservation. It's the 2006 GOUT (George's Original Untouched Trilogy) release, but made anamorphic, color-balanced, etc. That's the version you're looking for.
The workprint? Care to explain?