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Yeah, version 2 is far too dark, and looks like less detail/more splotch in areas. Ex: The top edge of the cockpit windows.

As for that 35mm scan: Oh wow... :(

Yeah, an audio companion to 005's galleries would probably be a good idea. That, plus publicly presentable versions for SaveStarWars.

Lest anyone not understand, here is the 1977/97 change comparison : https://picasaweb.google.com/102542760950977079734/StarWarsSpecialEditionChangesHD#5514976103623090866

The source for 77 is GOUT and the source for 97 is 2004, so colors, black-levels, etc are probably inaccurate everywhere, but you can at least see that, yes, it really is supposed to be pretty dark.

(Side note: When I saw the film at The Senator, I didn't know to look for the bad matte, and I never noticed it)

Although shake is certainly added by the projector, Harmy's corrected for that by stabilizing PuggoGrande to the very-still HD footage, and the subtitles still shook. You're right in saying that the subtitles are burned in, but remember that this burning in process also required running film across sprockets and all that... introducing its own shake. So even if you could run a 35mm print of Star Wars through a projector with absolutely no shake, the subs would still shake, because of how they were made.

Harmy said:

As to the grain and stuff, I think I'll just make an MKV "vintage" version with it.

I like this decision a lot. I may end up preferring it; who knows.

The grain, from what I can barely tell, seems nice. The dirt I could do without, but I wouldn't object either.

Wow man. That's... that's really good. You may be setting a new standard for fan-scans.

You should be aware that Frink is often very silly.

But he's serious when he says that a lot of people think Fett in ROTJ is too much Fett. At the very least, Fett in ROTJ is not very awesome.

...

Thankfully he wears a helmet, so hypothetically a fan edit crew could film a better death for him?

Sigh.

Right, so, TPM.

Atlantis said:

No professional restoration job would actually add elements such as dirt and hairs though, that's the opposite of preserving the best possible image.

Or shaky subtitles. I agree.

Ah, but shaky subtitles are not an element added by poor projection or accidents. They're inherent in making something with analog film and compositing. In fact, they fall into the same realm as matte-lines: Part of the original film.

Oh, I meant to ask: Will version 3.0 have shake applied to the full movie?

I joke, I joke.

If there's no shake in the original, where did the Puggo Grande's shake come from?

If it helps any Ginge, I was at the Senator screening too (well, technically there were two screenings - I was at the 2nd one), and I gotta say that Harmy's clip looks great. I hadn't spent enough time on here to know to look for a shake at that point, but I do remember the subtitles seeming almost 3D, floating in front of Greedo. I get the same effect from Harmy's latest, and I think it's the shake: The motion distinguishes them as being a separate object from the rest of the image.

That's fairly incredible. I'm very pleased.

How did you "import" the shake from Puggo Grande?

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What do you do in film school?

Watch movies, talk about movies, make short movies, write essays about movies, drink alot, ask girls out. etc.

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[Insert dreams of automatic frame steppers and scanning here]

Note: That piece of equipment to the right of Luke & Leia is a really great looking prop.

What kind of Yoda is that?! Tiny-ears and just...wrong.

Yeah, Angel has shown a tendency to want to modernize the OT, whereas I'm more interested in the largely untackled task of 70s/80s-izing the PT. It is, I suppose, a legitimate perspective, but rarely do I enjoy his mockups. Sorry Angel.

Eh, there's not much to say, really. To the outside observer, black people weren't allowed to be clergy until the Church conveniently announced a message from God saying they could, after racism had become unpopular, much as there was a convenient prophecy regarding polygamy once the Supreme Court had definitively declared it illegal. To the outside observer, they weren't messages from God, they were the head Prophet recognizing social pressures and claiming to have received communication from the Lord. The the LDS-believer, it was all actual messages from God.

Your thoughts, as a believer, on the convenient timings?

What he's saying is that if you hear a recognizable theme from "Close Encounters" or "Jurassic Park" while watching a Star Wars film, you will probably be distracted by the recognition and out-of-placeness.

That's good to hear, I suppose. There's a stereotype of Mormons as rich or middle-class white people, which isn't super-surprising given the LDS's history with African-Americans (I assume you know what I mean?), so it's good to hear that's changed.