Yeah, I'm definitely in favor of removing any Vulture Droids that look like they're acting like independent droids (ROTS, in particular). The Battle Droids pilot tanks, but not spaceships?
none said:
On the April 26, 2006 episode, John Hodgman says that Lobot is one of President Bush's historians chosen to chronicle the Iraq war.
I expect nothing less from John Hodgman.
Bingowings said:
If you just twiddled his voice setting he would still be the same droid with the same memories.
If you keep the voice but remove the memories he becomes a blank slate with the same voice.
Like I said, this depends on the idea that droids' personalities are tied to their memories.
If Leia had all her memories removed you'd care right?
So why not Threepio?
See above.
Heck, there are people who lose their memories without personality change!
That being said, we're both beating this to death. I'm in favor of bluescreening a person in an OT Threepio costume into the PT as a member of Amidala's staff, something like that.
Bingowings said:
So a memory wipe is the equivalent (in terms of audience response as defined by the OT) as death of personality or 'soul'.
This is where the idea falls apart. There's no reason that a droid's personality can't be part of their programming or in some other way be untied from memory.
OMEN!-_-! said:
I've been hearing rumours that Ian Holm may be replaced by Martin Freeman at the beginning of FOTR in a new FOTR 'ultimate edition' that'll be released when The Hobbit comes out, but I REALLY REALLY hope that's not the case. I'm pretty sure that Peter Jackson would never do that to Ian Holm.
I believe, at most, they would replace the single shot of Ian finding the ring, and none of the rest of the film. I don't think they should either, but it's better than what they could do. At the same time, they've brought Ian (and Elijah Wood as Frodo) in to film bits with FOTR-era Bilbo for the intro to The Hobbit.
Has the OT Accordion medley been posted yet? It's pretty wonderful.
Before anyone points out that this is great evidence of OT love in the public, keep in mind that it's an Armcannon show, and google indicates they do video game music. So, nerds love Star Wars...which we know from personal experiences, I'd expect.
Bingowings said:
What are you if you have none of your prior memories (everything in your head from birth until now gone)?
Are you you or are you something new?
Right, but I'm a human. Obviously droids don't work that way.
We have already seen that droids identical to Threepio can have female voices and we have speaking devices where you can manually shift from a voice type in the real world.
Getting rid of Anthony Daniels in the PT provides a blank slate for an editor to build a more functional droid personality which could be lost in the mind wipe.
Right, it's useful for editors.
Which would be rather tragic for a droid the audience has come to care about.
We are meant to care about the droids more than their owners do, that much is obvious in the writing of the OT.
I guess so? One of the failures of the PT is that Artoo & Threepio are not the main characters the way they are in the OT. Completely replacing one of them with a different character (albeit in the same body) doesn't really help this.
The standard EADGBE exists because it is versatile and easy for beginners.
I don't think it's necessarily the greatest idea to base your tuning off the idea it will help you progress to other stringed instruments. The guitar is often used for chords, so its requirements are very different from the violin & Co. Guitars are fretted, so the precise hand placement is going to end up a little off. In general, it's just a very different instrument. There are fretted instruments with violin-style tuning, though: mandolin, for example.
Additionally, I'd be concerned about only having 5 strings for any long period of time. The tension in strings on the guitar do help hold the neck in its proper position. One less string is a little less force.
Bingowings said:
After a memory scrub wouldn't Threepio be a totally new personality anyway?
That's why I hate Artoo's laugh at the end of ROTS.
Threepio is more of a slave than cushy little Anakin ever was.
The good guys give him a lobotomy.
Clearly, in the world of Star Wars, a memory wipe doesn't give a droid a new personality. Given that droids are completely made up, I see no problem with this. It's not a lobotomy if its effects aren't like those of a lobotomy.
Given 3PO's coloring there, I did like the solution someone had of giving him a completely different voice and thus making him a different droid.
Doesn't the Hobbiton example demonstrate that a constant green was not accidentally cast over the entire film, but instead that whatever differences exist were intentional?
No, but it can play FLACs. So can WinAmp. I honestly advise you to not use Windows Media Player; there are much better media players available for free.
Alexrd said:
In my opinion, the aliens are what helps me to believe in the huge scope of the galaxy in Star Wars. It's one of the things I like in the PT over the OT. We see in the cantina (and later in Jabba's Palace) that there are many other species on this universe, and I find it very strange (from a narrative POV) that only humans formed the Rebel forces. Specially when the aliens are the ones being reprimanded. In RotJ we see a new species on the Alliance (Mon Calamari), but it's still lacking.
This is why I'm all in favor of more prunefaces in ROTJ. Also the alien pilots.
So, uh... myspleen?
Holy crap that was awful. I had forgotten.
Wait wait, the TIE fire changed color completely!?
Erikstormtrooper said:
doubleofive said:
Its the little things that 90% of normal viewers didn't notice originally being changed & 90% of the ones who saw the restoration didn't notice that it didn't look 100%. ;-)
Um, what?
005 is dividing Star Wars viewers into two categories: Normal viewers and Harmy's Viewers. Normal Viewers have seen the 1997 or 2004 version and noticed some of the changes. Harmy's Viewers have seen Despecialized 1.0 and thought it was pretty great.
However, 005's statement is concerned with "the little things". "The little things" are things which 90% of Normal Viewers didn't notice as being changed. They were very impressed with the obvious changes, but so many little things were changed (Zoomed cockpits, to use an ESB example) that most viewers missed them. Frankly, 90% is far too low a number.
"The little things" are also things which, when viewing Despecialized 1.0, Harmy's Viewers didn't notice as not being perfect. Harmy did a lot of work to make Despecialized 1.0, but he'll be the first to tell you that even much of what he fixed wasn't fixed as perfectly as possible. Thus, in Despecialized 2.0, he's fixing his previous fixes to be even better. Many of Harmy's Viewers didn't even notice some of these things.
I hope that helps.
That, 005, is really strange. I'd think that Daniel 2 is a nice counterexample.
Does the track have a hiccup at all?
I have a dream that one day original Revisited footage will be combined with 35mm fanscans, circumventing the crappy Blu-rays entirely. But I also know that this would only further delay the rest of the Revisited Saga, so... maybe I should not dream.
I downloaded it straight from the links ABC provided originally, and that was always like that. Have you tried listening to that track? There's a slight hiccup, but it's otherwise fine. Older versions of the ESB set had no such problem, but I don't have links for those anymore.
I disagree. Dooku's look of shock is too good.
I'd disagree with Mrebo's assessment of the situation. Tarkin & Co are distinctly military leaders. They refer to the Senate (the political power) as being quite separate from themselves. They have titles like "Commander" and "Admiral". They use possessive pronouns like "your" when talking about the starfleet. They are the military.
Vader, on the other hand, is a bit of an outsider. He's not subordinate to them, not even to Tarkin, but he's not exactly above them in the chain of command either. He's separate from both the political and military structures, except that it's well known that his authority comes from the Emperor. The script goes so far as to call him "right hand of the Emperor". As the films progress, particularly in ESB where he's been given use of the fleet to hunt down Luke, he has greater explicit command of the military, but he's never actually part of their system. As the Emperor's right hand man, however, he's almost always obeyed.
Akwat Kbrana said:
That's the basic idea. For plot-important scenes, delete the video on frames where snakes are shown, leaving the audio. That way the screen blanks out, but you can still hear what's going on, thus tracking the storyline to some degree.
The only serious point people have been trying to make here is that a giant snake features heavily in the plot, particularly in the climax/finale of the final film. We're not sure what you're asking is doable.
Vader having his saber on is kinda cool, but I really, really like the troopers descending from the moving walker. That was great!