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Holy crap that was awful. I had forgotten.

Wait wait, the TIE fire changed color completely!?

Erikstormtrooper said:

doubleofive said:

Its the little things that 90% of normal viewers didn't notice originally being changed & 90% of the ones who saw the restoration didn't notice that it didn't look 100%. ;-)

Um, what?

005 is dividing Star Wars viewers into two categories: Normal viewers and Harmy's Viewers. Normal Viewers have seen the 1997 or 2004 version and noticed some of the changes. Harmy's Viewers have seen Despecialized 1.0 and thought it was pretty great.

However, 005's statement is concerned with "the little things". "The little things" are things which 90% of Normal Viewers didn't notice as being changed. They were very impressed with the obvious changes, but so many little things were changed (Zoomed cockpits, to use an ESB example) that most viewers missed them. Frankly, 90% is far too low a number.

"The little things" are also things which, when viewing Despecialized 1.0, Harmy's Viewers didn't notice as not being perfect. Harmy did a lot of work to make Despecialized 1.0, but he'll be the first to tell you that even much of what he fixed wasn't fixed as perfectly as possible. Thus, in Despecialized 2.0, he's fixing his previous fixes to be even better. Many of Harmy's Viewers didn't even notice some of these things.

I hope that helps.

That, 005, is really strange. I'd think that Daniel 2 is a nice counterexample.

Does the track have a hiccup at all?

I have a dream that one day original Revisited footage will be combined with 35mm fanscans, circumventing the crappy Blu-rays entirely. But I also know that this would only further delay the rest of the Revisited Saga, so... maybe I should not dream.

I downloaded it straight from the links ABC provided originally, and that was always like that. Have you tried listening to that track? There's a slight hiccup, but it's otherwise fine. Older versions of the ESB set had no such problem, but I don't have links for those anymore.

I disagree. Dooku's look of shock is too good.

I'd disagree with Mrebo's assessment of the situation. Tarkin & Co are distinctly military leaders. They refer to the Senate (the political power) as being quite separate from themselves. They have titles like "Commander" and "Admiral". They use possessive pronouns like "your" when talking about the starfleet. They are the military.

Vader, on the other hand, is a bit of an outsider. He's not subordinate to them, not even to Tarkin, but he's not exactly above them in the chain of command either. He's separate from both the political and military structures, except that it's well known that his authority comes from the Emperor. The script goes so far as to call him "right hand of the Emperor". As the films progress, particularly in ESB where he's been given use of the fleet to hunt down Luke, he has greater explicit command of the military, but he's never actually part of their system. As the Emperor's right hand man, however, he's almost always obeyed.

Akwat Kbrana said:

That's the basic idea. For plot-important scenes, delete the video on frames where snakes are shown, leaving the audio. That way the screen blanks out, but you can still hear what's going on, thus tracking the storyline to some degree.

The only serious point people have been trying to make here is that a giant snake features heavily in the plot, particularly in the climax/finale of the final film. We're not sure what you're asking is doable.

Vader having his saber on is kinda cool, but I really, really like the troopers descending from the moving walker. That was great!

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DominicCobb said:

muddyknees2000 said:

Dude, you know theres a story being told during this film right? Its right in the foreground, more or less right in front of all those tiny little lights in the background. If you squint real hard you can just make it out...

I might be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that ESBR is essentially ESB with updated visuals. Fixing these inconsistencies is kind of the point.

Couldn't've said it better myself. Part of the point of ESBR is fixing all this dumb stuff.

darth_ender said:

EDIT: Found a better picture.  Looks like there are more displays than my mind remembered, but at the same time, look at all those lights that serve no purpose but to blink. 

Pretty sure you just found a mirrored image. Note the apparent ngle of the two central sections; they're not flat to each other. Just from this Revisited comparison you can see at least one panel not in your pic.

Perhaps there's a way to communicate that Padme is dying? I'm not sure why she would be dying, but that might work.

On the other hand, the fact that her husband is a powerful Sith Lord, apprenticed to the ruler of the Galaxy, who is also a Sith Lord, might be a good reason to send her and the kids into hiding. Adopting Leia doesn't seem so crazy, then, even if Padme isn't dying.

I'll admit that I never got around to watching the different methods comparison thread, but this latest version looks great

Anchorhead said:

This is on the shoulders of several people here.  I've reached a new level of nerdiness -  I created a Wookieepedia account...and I've already corrected an EU mistake.

This might be even more remarkable than the fact that you're even reading EU!

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aalenfae said:

They're taking all the ORIGINAL film elements for the episodes and recomposing them from scratch.

I thought this wasn't possible for many effects, having been produced on video, and so they're redoing things in CG?

TV's Frink said:

So this thread contains...twin observations?

 

Thanks, I'll be here all week.

Now there are....

Oh never mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska

Basically, an .mkv file is something you can play in VLC

To be fair, the facemask and asteroid gravity are logical problems, not understanding problems. With Luke, the visuals apparently didn't communicate to me what was happening; I've no problem with the logic of his getting sucked into that thing, just the way it's shown.

That being said, I also don't care if it gets changed.

Oh man, that looks so good.

I continue to look forward to this. Big time.

Never until today did I understand just where Luke goes - Out a side vent, not the bottom! This makes a lot more sense.

But yeah, that shot of him entering the vent for the first time is at a bad angle for communicating that motion.