Are you trying to convince industry professionals to send you high quality scans which are now the property of Disney?
Eh, worth a shot. And still, the comics from 1984, it should be in the public domain by now…
Morally, maybe, but definitely not legally 😦
Are you trying to convince industry professionals to send you high quality scans which are now the property of Disney?
Thanks for this. I forgot how good this movie looks most of the time.
Also interesting to see how clearly it frames Padme as the protagonist… unfortunately, some of her potential depth in the film is spoiled by attempting to maintain the surprise of her double identity.
I stumbled across this old document from 1995
https://www.cedmagic.com/featured/star-wars-lost-footage.html
It’s mostly concerned with documenting the differences between the mono & stereo audio versions of SW77, and providing a transcript of the contents of the deleted Biggs scenes (which basically no one had ever seen at the time). There are even some great bits of people having false memories towards the end of the document, much like the classic “my memory isn’t that bad, is it?” thread. The grappling hook legend is even mentioned on a different page!
It’s also a good example of what the Internet and fan culture were like back then. Concerned with many of the same things, but publishing in a very different format.
I hate Messianic prophecies in general, or the very idea of a Messiah, because it encourages the idea that all hope for the future is dependent on one dude, instead of like, the group effort that is required in real life.
Granted, Star Wars doesn’t incorporate a true Messiah into the mythology. Vader is more like a very round-about Messiah who only saves the Universe after he fucks over the entire Universe. So it’s at least a twist on the idea of a Messiah, kind of like Dune. But I still don’t like it, because it shrinks the Universe by elevating one guy to cosmic significance. At one point, Luke was just a random farmboy and Vader was just a cyborg SS officer carrying out the will of his government. There was a backstory intertwining the two of them, but it was personal, not a matter of cosmic importance.
This, of course, gets into the whole “myth” side of Star Wars. Like it or not, a messiah of some kind is a well-established archetype that really speaks to people.
I can’t believe I’ve never thought to ask (which probably means I did, or at least someone else): Any plans to fix the “DS II always faces the right towards the camera” problem?
collars
It’s an older code, sir, but it checks out.
So glad to hear you’re feeling better!
Those comparisons are incredible. It’s like they ran a grayscale filter over the DSII or something.
(As for the rest of the film, I will just be over here chanting “Prune face! Prune face!” in the corner)
I see TN1 was banned from the site. Why is that?
Because the stole a scan of Star Wars A New Hope.
Holy cow, really? I thought tn1 was one of the reputable people on here. That’s a real shame because I would be really interested in this project.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Why-was-this-user-banned-thread/id/54235/page/1#1165751
See the replies immediately after that post.
Why make this available only for a limited time?
This like Disney putting movies “in the vault” just to build hype & demand back in the day, only without the existing demand, reputation for quality, name recognition, etc.
Plus, anyone who receives the files can just distribute them as soon as he says it’s no longer available.
I doubt this is it, but have you considered https://youtu.be/M2A-LNQK4Z4?si=tYHQ2VVLDPhayr4b ?
I posted this in The Cantina, but I guess it could go here too
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/arts/star-wars-films-george-lucas.html
Includes a member of TN-1 going on the record with his name, and a link to this site.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/arts/star-wars-films-george-lucas.html
Notably, a member of TN-1 goes on the record with his name.
Actually, come to think of it, they were still in their ships, weren’t they? Maybe a backdrop of Sullust then…
The entirety of the Rebel rendezvous takes place on the Rebel Starcruiser. There’s no planet visible, and although Vader says they’re massing near Sullust, “near” in the grand scale of space can 100% mean that no planet, or even the star Sullust orbits (or maybe Sullust is the star), should appear. On the galactic scale, “near Earth” could mean somewhere beyond Pluto. The lack of any notable stars or planets in all of the exterior shots of the Fleet enhances the sense of isolation and attempted hiding from the Empire.
Honestly, my number one ask is to replace that matte painting shot when Han is departing with the strike team and talking to Lando with the falcon in the background. It is the most obvious matte shot in the entire saga in my opinion. I am still shocked Lucas didn’t tinker with it during the special edition. Especially in HD it always stands out to me like a sore thumb to me.
It’s hardly noticeable
I think the problem is they used a matte for the entire backdrop. They usually work a lot better when there’s other objects that help blend in to it. Like if the Falcon was a model, the rest as a matte wouldn’t be so bad. That poor ship is rough looking though.
https://youtu.be/hFadMn0EuO0?t=220
I think it’s a lot worse in motion. Also, the left side behind Lando looks so flat. And something is weird with the perspective, especially if you focus on the bottom of the frame when they start moving around near the end of the shot.
Wouldn’t the second Death Star also have a magnetic field, then? And obviously this voice modulation effect doesn’t appear in ROTJ.
The magnetic field, IMHO, is some kind of shielding (ray shielding? no one knows.). DSII’s only shield was projected from Endor.
Oh, yeah, that’s actually really great
I think it’s a bit too prominent in the hangar shot, and makes a crowded shot just too crowded. But the shot with Ackbar and the DSII was very good. In general, the whole Rebel Fleet needs a lot of expansion anyway.
Sure, why not? Never made a single movie that would win the real award, yet undeniably a big deal in the history of filmmaking - That’s exactly what the Honorary award is for.
left me with a barf taste in my mouth.
You may be a little more emotionally involved with this than you ought to be
My understanding is that George Lucas maintains he intended for the Jabba scene to be in the movie, but they lacked the money to create the alien Jabba he wanted using stop motion or something.
It’s exceedingly likely that Jabba was originally intended to be a human; it’s been covered thoroughly here-
https://web.archive.org/web/20140928112036/http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/jabba.htmlAccording to Paul Hirsh (one of the editors) in his biography, Lucas came up with the alien Jabba idea in post-production, but it had to be dropped due to being impossible to achieve with contemporary special effects technology.
My phone’s protection software through a fit when I tried to follow that link. But it makes sense that Jabba was intended to be human during production. That still leaves us with two scenes that just don’t work together. Oh well! Filmmaking is not always a linear process, and in reality the details of the complications of a movie made half a century ago may remain unknowable.
I mean, I think the traditional explanation is pretty good: It was bad writing to have both scenes, but they didn’t really catch that until after filming.
It’ll be the first time a “Star Wars” film has been entirely shot in California
This is still the best version of that line I’ve seen. Pretty much blends in perfectly.
That sounds pretty bad and is very noticeable.
I saw Dune: Part Two on Saturday, in 70mm. It was visually beautiful, sonically consuming (in a good way), and pretty great the whole time. The middle part, around when they find the atomics, felt a little off. I wish they’d included the Thufir stuff, and Count Fenring as well, but ah well, you have to trust Villeneuve to know what he’s doing.
Very excited for the eventual conclusion of this trilogy.
To deploy Chesterton’s Fence, do we have any indication of why the scene was removed so late into post-production?