timdiggerm

The Real Monroville said:

LOCATION OF THE EMPERORS TOWER:
Having the tower in some non descript place on the Death Star felt out of place in JEDI. If the man is going to create a “high tower” to gloat over his enemies, I would imagine he would pick a place where he could not only see the battle with the most clarity, but also a place that would be highly protected. What if the Emperor’s tower was at the center of the laser dish array? Imagine the panic on Luke’s face (and our own) if you could see either the beams or even just the green of the beams outside the Emperor’s window as Luke fought Vader (so he/we are constantly reminded of the short amount of time Luke has to stop the Emperor).

Isn’t it just at the north pole of the DSII? That’s not exactly nondescript.

But what is Thor looking at? What’s over there?!

That really does feel a lot more like what I saw in theaters, although I am not sure I remember the flicker being on all those later shots of televisions. But the interview & fight really seemed about right. It was not easy on the eyes.

SilverWook said:

timdiggerm said:

SilverWook said:
Was Lucas quietly revising the history of the film even then?

If I’m not mistaken, he was having McQuarrie redo the paintings so they could all see how the shots would look with the new Falcon design.

Makes sense. I wish the originals had been included in the McQuarrie portfolio at the time. Thanks for the explanation! 😃

I think it’s covered in Rinzler’s Making Of

SilverWook said:
Was Lucas quietly revising the history of the film even then?

If I’m not mistaken, he was having McQuarrie redo the paintings so they could all see how the shots would look with the new Falcon design.

Because after his redemption and death he is restored in the Force to the way he ought to be rather than the way he was.

Possibly worth noting, given the nature of his website and the way he’s only posting little, skewed thumbnails, that this is essentially an advertisement.

It definitely makes sense. I can’t actually picture Dennis Lawson in my head.

Ady, I’ve always wondered: Is it possible for you to improve any of the issues outlined in this article? https://billsfilms.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-cinematography-of-empire-strikes.html

DrDre said:

rodneyfaile said:

The Last Jedi is a well written and well made movie, and I think that is why many critics like it. The Last Jedi also takes Luke Skywalker, one of the most beloved characters of all time, in some very unexpected directions. Some people find that very refreshing and others find it a travesty, thus the split between fans. I think over time people will appreciate TLJ more.

I agree TLJ is well made with amazing visuals, and generally strong performances (except Hux, who’s just a buffoon in this one), but I’m not sure it is that well written. It’s not badly written, I think, and has plenty of good and sometimes even great elements, but a lot of criticism has been leveled at the rather contrived “slow chase”, which is the backbone of the movie, the tonal issues, the superfluous casino plot, the contrived introduction of DJ into the story, and the whole Poe/Holdo conflict, which relies on characters not communicating for no reason. I mean is a film that has Holdo perform a kamikaze maneuver in a universe, where droids can perform complex tasks really that well written, even if the excitement and visuals distract from this fact? I would say the writing is a rather mixed bag, where the good often outshines the bad. I conjecture the critics liked TLJ, because it is an above average movie with plenty of highlights and surprises when seen in a vaccuum, while the fans are split over the way the film connects to the previous episodes in the saga.

This is the best, even-handed summary of the TLJ response I’ve seen. Good job.

Smithers said:

-Remove yoda from the movies, this is crucial and actually serves the OT more because you can leave in all of the lines mentioning master Yoda, setting him up as a great Jedi Master. This is also no problem to me because Yoda is boooring in the PT, save for a few good lines.

This is the only one that I am not sure about. You lose his convo with Obi-wan at the end of TPM, all the council scenes get screwed up, and you lose the meeting with Obi & Bail at the end of ROTS. Plus, then when he shows up in ESB you gotta wonder “Where was this guy in the first three movies?? When did he train Obi-wan???”

Finally got around to rewatching this last night; first time since theaters. I was pleasantly surprised to see that I still really like this movie, despite the intermediate time being full of reading people say the movie has Problems and isn’t so great. Nah, I think it’s great. I was even surprised to find that CG-Leia was fine! CG-Tarkin, however, is still not fine. It is bad. Oh, and incorporating Red & Gold Leader worked surprisingly well. I could still tell the footage wasn’t quite as crisp as the others - but it was close enough.

But yeah, I liked the characters! I even think Jyn had an arc: She went from not wanting to be a part of the Rebellion because of her traumatic childhood, to giving her life for the slim chance that someday someone might succeed (i.e. hope). I suspect the Cassian show will have a lot of stuff about him learning to kill.

Standout performance was definitely Riz Ahmed - but I thought all the rest were good too. Most compelling scene was the emotional debrief onboard the cargo shuttle after the botched Eadu mission, confronting Cassian about whether he was sent to assassinate Galen or not. Worst moment is, of course, when Vader makes a pun, and frankly that entire scene is pretty bad, even though I’m all for showing that Krennic is all about getting favorable job performance reviews instead of the glory of the Empire. If that guy had been born a hundred years earlier, he would have been obsessed with ensuring the Senate recognized his ability to manage grain shipments or some equally Republican job.

And, yes, I am a sucker for Exciting Times with X-Wings. I can not deny that that helps.

Great, if you want to do that, please make your own thread.

Carefully

Billy Dee Williams in ESB deserves some recognition, I think.

screams in the void said:

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-anakin-built-c3po-george-lucas-1977/?fbclid=IwAR3L_FEb366vVbJKbbJXstoLP02ljq_mOLnP5vQO_8Kp5OyTxUKe0j9WhzY

It is always interesting to see which ideas had been bouncing around in his head for a lot longer than you might expect. Of course, those old behind the scenes peeks inevitably reveal how other ideas changed over time - the Republic still growing on a wild frontier, for example, suggesting a very different feel than the prequel’s eventual version of the Republic.

Yeah, really the problem is that things like TNG’s holodeck version of NCC-1701’S bridge and the time travel incidents set a precedent which modern show runners aren’t willing to follow because it would constrain them too much. They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s, but some people don’t want a change in precedence.

Of course, I also think the Augments Klingom retcon was silly, so what do I know.

Folks complaining that Discovery can’t be Prime Timeline because things don’t look right are really clinging to the idea of canon a little too tightly. TMP, the other “TOS-movies” and TOS all being in the same timeline as each other doesn’t even make sense with that standard.

It’s screenshots of the ruins of the giant statue of a Jedi visible on Jeddha in Rogue One.

You know, the Jedi Rocks

The list from young Kasdan is really great stuff. Perhaps it will serve as the basis for fan-made commentary or filmumentary someday.

paja said:

In Revenge of the Sith, there is a very subtle cross-fade edit of Anakin and Palp.
https://gfycat.com/PoorDimpledLamprey

Well spotted

Possessed said:

benduwan said:

any news of this?
thanks

No I still haven’t heard a wookiee sneeze

Can we start petitioning JJ to work that into EP9 as a gag?

oojason said:

‘Millennium Falcon Ride Details Revealed on Target-Exclusive ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Blu-Ray’…

https://www.slashfilm.com/millennium-falcon-ride-details-solo-a-star-wars-story-blu-ray/
 

And George thought the ESB cockpit was too big

Inserting Duel of the Fates into the Holiday Special, when the holographic circus appears

That would be a great change