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Huh.  Well, I'm gonna download it and see how it compares to what I was planning.  I may not have to do this after all.  :)

Since the film came out on DVD I’ve been waiting for someone to do a fan edit of “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”.  Unfortunately the one or two started have never been completed.  So I’m taking it upon myself to do it.

I plan to do my cut based off some of the suggestions in this thread.  However, I am not a graphic designer/animator so some things I won’t be able to do such as removing CGI prairie dogs, fixing continuity of soldiers arms, etc.  If there is someone here proficient with After Effects or some other similar program that thinks they can do this I’ll gladly accept your help.  What I will be concentrating on is just cutting stuff that made “Indy 4” (not) cute.

I’ll keep my efforts posted here.

Is this still being worked on?  If not, I'm going to move ahead with my planned edit.

That's hysterical.  I was just talking to a friend about The Mist and doing a fan edit when I stumbled upon this thread.  Is it available via Rapidshare yet?  I'd love to obtain a copy.

I'd be interesting in seeing this when completed.  It was an atrocity what Lucas and Spielberg did to this.  come to think of it, everyone involved should be ashamed.

Alright... I keep forgetting to ask.  What is GOUT?

adywan said:

ImperialFighter said:

Some more great work there Adywan, thanks for the preview.  Just lovin' the vibrancy of the colour, and the look of the sky in your version.  The work on the buildings looks great also, of course.

Although your shots there aren't finished yet, I'm curious to see if you are going to be amending the look of the Millennium Falcon's cockpit windows in any of these shots.  For instance, in the shot at the top here, the windows are totally blackened out (which I quite like in that actual shot), whereas in the other two shots shown here, one has a 'reflective' look, while the other has a 'grey' look.

Just curious if you are keeping the current looks, or not.  Happy either way.

Oh, and have you considered if it would be an idea to add the 2 red lights at the end of the MF's front 'prongs' to come on, somewhere when it lands, in the top shot?  Just another thought to think over. 

 

Hopefully i will be using a model shot for the Falcon instead of the painted matte because it lacks detail so the windows will be changed. There are actually a couple of things that i need to fix for the landing shot that i'm really surprised that ILM didn't fix for the SE. The main one is the tiny cloud car that looks like it flies right through the falcon. If they had digitally re-composited all the FX for the SE then this mistake would not still be there. I'm starting to really question the truth of what was said in all those making of the SE docs.

 

The other thing in that shot is that as the falcon lands on the platform you can  see the platform moves/ wobbles but the matte sections remain static. And i have already added the falcon lights to this shot but i like the idea of them turning on as it lands so i'm probably going to go with that idea.

Did you go through these movies frame by frame?  You're fixing things I've never even noticed before!

(By the way, nice job on the edit.  Looks good!)

Josh said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aIZZyIgpco&feature=related

Has anyone givin this thought...cough adywan cough

Luke never knew Qui-Gon nor was he ever mentioned in the OT so I don't think it serves a purpose to add him.  Just my two cents.

ben_danger said:

does anyone know how many episodes are going to be in the first season?

One too many.  :p

adywan said:

And the X-wing that disappears at the end, i noticed that when i was doing the colour correction. I though ILM was supposed to have fixed these types of FX gaffes but the whole SE just seemed to me to be a half-assed job

I just went back and watched the last shot frame-by-frame and don't see any ship disappearing.  Where is it?

I wrote an article at my new site SecondChanceTV.net and I wanted to share it with you.  Not exclusively Star Wars related but it’s mentioned in detail.  I hope I got everything right and that you enjoy it.

There is a movement I’ve recently come across I wanted to share: fan edits. Fan editors are a group of people that for one reason or another want to modify films either to improve the film, preserve it or create extended cuts.

The first time I’d heard of a “fan edit” was when The Phantom Edit (aka The Phantom Menace) was released in the early 2000’s. I can only assume that this is truly the grandfather of fan edits, and the group has grown ever since.

A few months ago I was re-watching the Star War prequels (it always comes back to the prequels) and really wished there was a DVD version of The Phantom Edit. I’d only ever seen MPEG-1 VCD versions at very low resolutions and wanted a version that looked good on my HDTV.

After doing some searching I found the prequel trilogy had been re-edited by a fan editor named Slumberland. Curious, I got my hands on copies.

Slumberland managed to pull off what George Lucas couldn’t: he made the prequel films enjoyable. The Phantom Menace (Slumberland’s edit is known as Rise of the Sith) cuts approximately 20 minutes of footage, most notably Jar-Jar and Anakin. He also cut the “kid” burp and fart jokes, terrible dialog and most of the exposition. What remains is a streamlined version of The Phantom Menace that is quite enjoyable to watch.

The Coming Storm (aka Attack of the Clones) cut out the bad dialog and vastly improved upon the relationship between Anakin and Padmé. Two deleted scenes from the DVD were added to help smooth over the relationship and now it’s a believable courtship.

Fall of the Republic (aka Revenge of the Sith) is handled in much the same way as The Coming Storm. Clunky dialog, exposition and gags are all cut. Also gone is the awkward balcony scene between Anakin and Padmé, the medical droid at the end saying Padmé lost the will to live and Vader’s “NOOOOOOO!” is quiet and fades quickly resulting in a sympathetic moment instead of a cringe.

And for those that consider the original trilogies Special Editions as bastardized versions of the originals you’re in luck. An editor by the name of Adywan has taken it upon himself to created the ultimate versions of the original trilogy. His first release is obviously Star Wars.

The DVD’s released in 2004 had a blue tint to them. This was the first thing he corrected. He also fixed the jump cuts and the matte lines. Dialog changed in the special editions have been changed back to how they originally were. Han shoots first and the Jabba scene has been cut. Adywan even went so far as to fix the lightsabers so they match the rest of the films, sped up the fight between Obi-Wan and Vader and added effects during the attack on the Death Star. All this makes what many fans consider what the special editions should have been: Definitive Editions.

And now Adywan is working his magic on The Empire Strikes Back, due for release in 2009. Each release appears to take about a year and a half to complete.

I’ve mostly talked about Star Wars in this article but other films have been worked on as well. The Matrix trilogy, Superman… even Dune and Titanic have had their releases extended. Utilizing the script, Dune: The Third Stage gets the film as close to what writer/director David Lynch intended. For those that want an extended cut of Titanic (a 4 hour cut mind you) are in luck with Titanic: The White Star Edition that incorporates many of the deleted scenes.

Unfortunately fan edits aren’t easy to come by unless you use what some consider shady means. But all fan editors share one thing in common: they want you to own a copy of the official release before seeking out their edits. They also don’t want you paying for their edits. This ensures the studios and filmmakers are still receiving a profit for their hard work.

If you want to learn more about fan edits you can read up at Wikipedia.

If you’d like to see a list of some fan edits please visit The fan edits page over at OriginalTrilogy.com.

Does anyone have a link to a Dune: Third Stage edition DVD cover?  I'd like to get one if at all possible.  The d/l I have didn't include one.  Thanks!

Has the Pearl Harbor cut been released?  I can't seem to find it.  I am downloading the Titanic cut though. Really looking forward to seeing that!

will said:

scene by the Anakin/Padme/Dooku meeting bonus scene

Where can I find this scene?  I've heard about it, but have not seen.

It's on the official AOTC DVD.

jlw515 said:

I saw a clip on youtube that claims to be an adywan clip of "Bail" and "Jar Jar" on Alderaan just before the planet blows up. Is this on any version of adywan's film edit?

The clip is on the DVD-9 version of SW:R in the Special Features section.  In answer to your following question, it's on several torrent sites.  Can't give specific links here though.  Sorry.  Just do a search and you should be able to find it.

I thought I remember seeing a list of software Adywan used in creating this fan edit but now I can't find it.  Does anyone know the software or the link to the thread?

Also, what is the difference between the DVD-9 version and the DVD-5 version?  DVD-9 is obviously dual-layered so is the picture quality higher?  Additional features?

I think the thing that hurt them was probably the fact that they linked to torrent sites.

BarBar Jinkx said:

Heres what I loved about this cut

Re-editing the Bens hut scene to how it was originally intended.

The Ben/Vader battle is wicked now the music really lifts that scene.

I'm still debating about the re-edit of Ben's hut.  Perhaps I'm just so use to how it has been for so long it just feels... wrong.  How do you know this is how it was originally intended?  I don't remember seeing this anywhere.

The only thing I wasn't all that excited about was when Ben is struck down the footage is slowed down of the lightsaber falling.  That didn't really work for me.

But all-in-all it really is an amazing edit.

LordVader said:

To Kurgan:

"The oppression of your endless bitching will never return, you have lost."

I know I'm new here but I will defend Kurgan to a point: he defends his point of view.  Instead of "that's stupid" at least he backs up his reason, for good or bad.  In the end Adywan will do what he wants and whatever he does will most likely improve the PT.

adywan said:

So, since you posted that thread over at stardestroyer.net to get people to come over here and back you up then maybe i should repay the courtesy and post the link to that thread (which i can reply to because i can't register because it won't accept my ISP's email address).

If it makes you feel any better most people are siding with you over there.  Personally, I never even noticed it until it was talked about here so I'll side with those that say, "It's your edit: do what you want.

So you're going to be releasing a color corrected version first followed by a complete "revisited" version next year?

ChainsawAsh said:

There.  Why were we arguing about that again?

We're not.  I messed up and read into the discussion wrong.  My bad.

HotRod said:

 What the bloody hell are you talking about man???

I'm completely blanking now.  Is the saber blue or green in Empire?  Blue, right?  This is what I get for trying to participate in a conversation while at a meeting.  Oh well.

ChainsawAsh said:

RE the Luke with a blue saber in Jedi, that was changed simply because the blue did not stand up well against the Tattooine blue sky.  My assumption would be that the green was changed to red on Hoth for a similar reason.

I always took it that Luke had to build a new saber because Ben had his in ANH.  When he was struck down he obviously couldn't get it.

Bingowings said:

Thanks for letting me know about the Slumberland edits, (they had somehow fallen off my Radar).

I've started to download them now and I'll give them a good look.

Are they up anywhere in a smaller format (AVI for example) my connection is awful here and it would take forever to get the disc image versions?

I don't know of smaller AVI version.  Sorry.

I know Adywan is planning on re-editing the prequels but I'm curious if anyone else here has watched the Slumberland edits?  A lot of what people are suggesting have been done in these cuts.  Adywan may in fact be able to go off these cuts instead of re-doing them completely as the Slumberland edits are quite good.