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#504995
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kershner directing AOTC
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Kersh had skills, but so did Lucas (at one point). Would Kersh still have the mojo going? Did he have any mojo or, like Star Wars, was ESB good because of the collaborative effort involved?

Thinking about it more rationally without being a smart ass I think it could have been better. But would it have been good? I doubt it. There were just too many problems with the film.

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#504978
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Spielberg comments on digital alterations to his films
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xhonzi said:

theprequelsrule said:

bkev said:

I think the saying means that when the exception is contrasted with the rule, it makes it all the more apparent. Hence, the saying makes sense.

Yes.

 Huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule

  • A truth is all the truer if it is sometimes false.
  • Hmmm. My bad. Move along, move along...

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    #504976
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    kershner directing AOTC
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    TV's Frink said:

    theprequelsrule said:

    Given Kershner's post-ESB efforts (Robocop 2 anyone?) I say:

    Nooooooooooooooooo!!!

    Coming from "theprequelsrule," a dude who said the prequels suck in another thread....

    ...

    Um...

    ...

    Pass.

    I thought the name was pure genius on my part. Irony for the win and all that.

    I guess things would have turned out better if I collaborated with others on choosing my name. I should have learned from George's mistakes.

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    #504905
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    More Old Republic game
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    TheBoost said:

    Havne't seen it yet (firewall at work) but can I assume it's awesome and badass with lots of stabbings and harsh lighting?

    Yep. And it has a cowboy!

    Like I said, this is the best we can hope for these days. Kind of sad isn't it?

    Somebody needs to tell Bioware that the Star Wars films and The Matrix films are seperate series.

     

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    #504897
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    Spielberg comments on digital alterations to his films
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    There is a saying; "the exception proves the rule". Are the prequels the rule (CGI is inherently detrimental to film-making) or the exception (CGI is good). I stand by my belief that nothing is just a tool (read: neutral). Was the wheel just a tool? Is the internet just a tool? Are spell-check programs just a tool? No; they all have an affect on us, good or bad. Maybe CGI is both good and bad and unfortunately, when Lucas gets his hands on it, it is bad. Real bad.

    Anyway, I've probably harped on this point long enough for people to be sick of me so I'll comment on the actual topic! It is awesome that Spielberg is not messing around with Jaws; it has a lot of similarities with Star Wars from a historical perspective (first summer blockbuster, lack of advanced FX technology ends up actually benefiting the film etc.).

     

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    #504675
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    Spielberg comments on digital alterations to his films
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    TheBoost said:

    theprequelsrule said:

    The medium is the message. If you don't think that CGI have a negative effect on how filmmakers approach the creation of a film you have your head up your ass. Does anyone here think that the great epic blockbusters of the pre-CGI era are not superior in nearly every way to the modern garbage we are fed? Yes, I am including overrated mediocrities like LOTR and Avatar as "modern garbage"

    A tool is never just a tool. If you don't recognize that you end up like Mr. Lucas.

    I don't think CGI has a 'negative effect' in the slightest. Crap is crap. It's always been made. I don't think there's much more of it now than there ever has been. I think we've been "fed" as much garbage since the advent of cinema.

    Perhaps from the vantage of your glorious high-horse you can better define what you mean by "great epics" and "modern garbage." Or is this just another fine example of '...kids today... crap... off my lawn... grrrr.... Jar Jar... grrrrr....' 

    The 1963 classic Jason and the Argonauts is a series of special effects sequences strung together with the slimmest of plots and no ending. Are you counting it as a classic epic? Many do. Perhaps if they hadn't been so obsessed with stop-motion they would have given the story an ending. Or are you comparing Lawrence of Arabia to Attack of the Clones

    Perhaps I am just biased then, but I can't help but feel that CGI and the effect it has had on filmmaking is, in great part, why we have to have a website like OT.com. I know I am assuming that is has had an effect of course.

    It just seems weird that there are people on this forum who are defending CGI as "just another tool" when it seems to me that this "tool" is largely responsible for our current dilemma; no proper release of the OOT. I doubt George would have bothered trying to make 'special editions"without CGI effects. And if he had, they would have in all likelihood looked a lot better since he would have been forced to use traditional effects that would have blended in with the original material more effectively than CGI.

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    #504670
    Topic
    Full video interview between Lucas and Nolan at the DGA in febuary
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    Anchorhead said:

    George - The original film was basically subtitled The Tragedy of Darth Vader

     

    At this point, his delusion is just plain disturbing.  He seems to have absolutely zero understanding of how easy it is to prove that statement is complete bullshit.

    ???

    I'm with you. What the fuck happened to the guy?! What kind of people does he surround himself with to allow him to make such claims?

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    #504668
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    Spielberg comments on digital alterations to his films
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    The medium is the message. If you don't think that CGI have a negative effect on how filmmakers approach the creation of a film you have your head up your ass. Does anyone here think that the great epic blockbusters of the pre-CGI era are not superior in nearly every way to the modern garbage we are fed? Yes, I am including overrated mediocrities like LOTR and Avatar as "modern garbage"

    A tool is never just a tool. If you don't recognize that you end up like Mr. Lucas.

     

     

     

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    #504281
    Topic
    Info: Star Wars Legacy Edition <em>(project already being discussed in another thread)</em>
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    In a way, he is sort of doing a very minimalist special edition. I wish George had done that. I believe there was a version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture that did something similar - new effects shots were done to replace older ones, but using the same FX tech as the original shots.

    (Sigh) I wish George had done that.

     

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    #504279
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    Spielberg comments on digital alterations to his films
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    Anchorhead said:

    Good points on the CGI pre-hate by some folks, which I just can't understand.  CGI is the matte painting of the 21st century and can be a very effective resource in the right hands.

    I respectfully disagree. CGI do not exist as real things. Matte paintings (and models) are real - they can be touched. They have unintentional flaws that add to their reality.

    CGI are only bits of data. The human mind revolts at CGI as something intrinsically unreal.

    Between CGI and 3D garbage, I have found myself completely disinterested in every "blockbuster" film that comes down the pipes these days. When the acting and story are good, it actually makes things worse.

     

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    #503822
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    Celebration VI
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    captainsolo said:

    OT.com convention complete with dance party, gif posting events, dolby vs. dts debate, panel discussions on the differing video releases and audio mixes, and coffee.

    All led by the most handsome pilot in the universe.

    Thoughts?

    Will someone come dressed as Oola? Boob slippage for the win!

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    #503788
    Topic
    Celebration VI
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    Ric Olie is really important, but it is also important to discover if any chicks in their late 30s (biological clock ticking and all that) will be at this event dressed as Twileks. If so, I may attend. I have some custom stormtrooper armour that I can't wait to show off! That will get those lekku twitching, if you know what I'm saying (wink wink).