sunday256

Originally posted by: adywan
The easiest way would be to load up the M2v file in VirtualdubMod and export it as an avi using the Lagaryth lossless codec. I've had a few problems with the huffyuv codec when using Vegas but Lagaryth works like a charm.

Also what format is original DVD? Is it Pal or NTSC? If it's Pal then just use VirtualdubMod but if it's NTSC then its best to use DVD2AVI and set the 2Field operation" in the Video menu to "forced film" to remove the 2:3 pulldown. This will give you a 23.976fps avi file. If your output video file has stuttery movement then the NTSC may probably have been encoded at 29fps without using the pulldown method. If this is the case just set it to "none". Also don't forget to change the "clip & resize settings" to > Filter type = precise bicubic, Video aspect = free & move the resize slider all the way up if using an anamorphic source.

Originally posted by: Moth3r
The neatest way would be to use an AviSynth script with MPEG2Source(). Install AviSynth, and get the DGMPGDec plugin. Run DGIndex, open your M2V file, and save a D2V index file. Now in notepad, type the following:

LoadPlugin("pathname\DGDecode.dll")
MPEG2Source("filename.d2v")

Save with the extension .avs. Hopefully Vegas should be able to open this as if it were an AVI file.

Failing that, you could use VirtualDub-MPEG2 to load the M2V, and save out as an AVI. Use a lossless codec like huffyuv or Lagarith - but you will still need a fair amount of drive space.

Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
I can't be positive about Star Wars as long as the damn foundation that the whole thing is built on is treated like this. Think of ALL the other frickin merchandise that is deemed worthy to put out. You can literally buy anything but. When it come to Star Wars, this is like having a stone in my shoe.

Originally posted by: CO
I bought a HDTV in 2005 for about $1,200 dollars. It is an RCA 52" Widescreen. You can get a 50" HDTV at Bestbuy in the range of $1,000-$2,000 depending on if you want DLP & LCD or just a picture tube that I have which it much thicker in the back and takes up more room. Now if you want a Plasma, they are nice as hell, but very expensive, as you can hang them on your wall.

If I didn't have an HDTV I probably wouldn't have a problem with the GOUT, cause it is not that noticeble on a 4 x 3 TV, but on an HDTV you have to zoom the picture to get whats called a fake anamorphic picture so you don't have black bars on all 4 sides. But what happens is you are losing more resolution everytime you zoom so it makes any defects in the picture quality worse! By watching just 5 minutes of the GOUT you can see grain on almost every frame especially the Hoth & Tatooine parts, and the colors are very dull too compared to the SE cause the picture has been untouched for 13 years. The other problem is the movie has that blurry feel to it because you are zooming the picture so you don't get that crisp image.

Now don't get me wrong there are parts of the movies that are pretty good quality, but they are so inconsistent cause they just didn't go back and clean the film frame to frame like the SE. Are they are unbearable? Not at all, as I have watched them many times. Are they are inferior compared to the SE quality, YES!!!! And that is the problem for anyone who watches great quality movies on an HDTV, you pop in the GOUT and the quality sticks out, where as on a 27" 4 x 3 TV, it is harder to notice any quality issues so it is more of a level playing field.

I don't want to ruin anyones love for SW, but I honestly wish I never bought an HDTV and never saw the SE quality on them, cause if I still had my 36" 4 x 3 TV, I think I would be able to enjoy the GOUT more, and probably would resist even jumping in the HD-DVD market for many years in fear that the SE would only be released in BlueRay. But that gets to my whole point, I have to resist great technology to enjoy the inferior quality of the OOT. That makes me sad.

(PS If we sound like a broken record, that's your perogative. We need to keep these comments alive to prove and solidify our points.)

Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
Yeh sunday256, it's entirely your choice to which broken record you prefer to listen to - praise or condemnation. Repeated complaints about either of those are dangerously close to qualifying themselves as sounding like a broken record. record. record. ...etc.

Originally posted by: CO


With all due respect Sunday, I don't think you understand what the point of this website is. The point is to get the OOT on DVD in the quality that every DVD that is out on the market these days. DVD has been on the market for 10 years now, and we have laserdisk quality for the OOT versions of movies, how else should we feel? Thanks George for giving us Laserdisk quality DVD's that were great quality in 1993!!!!!!

As for respect, do you really think Lucas reads these forums? And if he does, then he has too much time on his hands. There is no respect by our side, cause there is no respect from Lucas towards these versions. Do you remember these quotes:

"I am sorry you fell in love with a half completed film."

"The Special Editions are the ones that exist now, and I don't recognize the originals anymore, and I am not going to take the time and money and remaster them, so if you want them, their on VHS."

"OK, we are putting out the unaltered DVD's in September, so we will see if this is what people want, it will all come out in the end."

Tell me one creator who talks like that to his fans? Name one please? Can you imagine Quentin Tarantino chastising his fanbase cause Jackie Brown tanked at the boxoffice, or Ron Howard pissing all over his fans cause Far and Away was utterly hated by the fans in 1992? No, both films have gotten great DVD treatment, and the directors don't thumb their nose at their fanbase cause the movies underperformed.

So by your rationale Sunday, we should keep waiting and waiting for the next great bootleg on the market, cause that is the reason I came to this site, buy the OOT illegally!!!!

Originally posted by: andy_k_250
Come on - there's good computer animation and bad. Of course, it's pretty subjective. My opinion is this stinks. Something like Homestar Runner, while crude and simple in comparison to the amount of effort put into this new series - is better (to me) because it's appropriate for the material and consistent. Here, you have ships, planets, landscapes almost identical to the quality used in the movies, and then you have big-head Yoda waltz in looking like Lego Star Wars. It's just not consistent. It would be like sticking Shrek-quality animation into Revenge Of The Sith and expecting no reaction from the audience. Or better yet - it's like a CGI Jabba stuck in a movie from 1977. The animation is not consistent, and there seems to be no reason, not even stylistically. It's not pretty to look at, so why animate it if it could be done with live actors? Oh wait - maybe it's because the story is not strong/concise to fit into a 2-3 hour movie and it would cost too much to use the actual people. Like I said, I could be wrong - but if this is really going to be that epic of a story, why couldn't it be told the PT films? So what do you end up with - uninspired animation aiming for realism but falling short and a story that is apparently all fighting (even action movie trailers have more than a few lines of throwaway dialogue). Sounds like the Mortal Kombat CGI direct-to-VHS movie to me.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363828/

Originally posted by: DGC General X


U r right we need to tell lucas to get off his lazy ass and give us our "30th Anniversary Box Set" NOW!!!

Originally posted by: Owen-Lars-Kenobi
Hmm, Ive been thinking about something that bothers me in episode III and I want to know what you think about it. How would you feel about completely removing the scene where R2 sets the Battle Droids on fire. For me it's a prime example of something that is unesscisary and really slows down the opening of the film (aside from being unconvincing from an animation point of view, for me anyways). I think it would serve the film better to get rid of it, and make way for a bit of the unused material on the Invisible Hand. Just a thought.

Originally posted by: Wesyeed
Not the special editions

Not the Prequels

Not even the VHS version with "a new hope" added.

This year belongs to a movie I never got the pleasure to see in a theater and because of a tyrant may never see preserved in state of the art quality.

Thank you for your time. Happy 30th, Star Wars the movie that started it all!

Originally posted by: SpaceOddity
Well, I was relieved when Steve Sansweet debunked the rumor... However, there's supposed to be some "huge" announcement at Celebration IV today, and I'm terrified it'll be a movie confirmation.