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#1286528
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Star Wars: The Phantom Menace - Faster, More Intense! (Released)
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I haven’t seen your original edit so I cant compare the two scenes but I really enjoyed this 10min footage. The removal of the fart jokes and the two headed alien commentor (I always hated that alien) from the scene gives it a more serious tone. It would be good to remove that American accent commentator to if possible and just leave the Alien language in. I thinking adding Jabba back in doesn’t take away anything from serous tone and adds a bit of fan service. I would be really interested in watching you V2 version. Do you have an ETA?

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#1285852
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The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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I think Ivan missed the ball on his re-edit. This will definitely not be my “Go To” edit and these are the reasons why.

  • Let’s start with Akbar. Everyone was excited when Ackbar was back. However, after hearing the voice actor and dialogue it’s terrible. Ivan really should have had someone proof read the dialogue. In Ackbars speech after Leia gets sucked out to space he should say “a spy among us” not “between us” and Ackbar refers to Leia as Princess Leia which should be General Organa or Leia Organa. It just comes across as amateurish and sloppy.

  • The addition of Battlefront 2 gameplay looks awful and takes you out of the immersion of the movie. This needs to be removed.

  • In the the training montage there is scene of Luke and Rey training in the rain and it’s in slow motion and just looks off from the rest of the film and it’s quite jarring. This scene needs to be removed.

  • The third lesson deleted scene in the village is stuttering and dropping frame making it hard to watch. How is this deleted scene such poor quality with other edits on this site incorporating this scene flawlessly.

  • The Canto Bight scene is better that it is has been reduced in length. But why are the Faithers being shown as they dont add anything to the story. Remove the scene where Finn and Rose go out to the balcony and watch the Faithers it’s not necessary.

  • The footage of Kylo Ren in Luke’s flashback scene on the Millennium Falcon looks off because its low quality footage and the rest of the movie is in HD. This scene needs to be removed. And when did Kylo get a chance to ever enter the Millennium Falcon. The scene makes no sense.

  • Rose is a annoying character. But Ivan shouldn’t just kill her off in the movie as she is going to be in Episode 9. There needs to be consistency otherwise it won’t flow once Episode 9 is released. Same with keeping Luke alive at the end of movie. If he is a force ghost in Episode 9 there will be a consistency issue.

After over a years worth of work this is a very disappointing outcome from Ivan. He has just added too much extra content and it comes across as a clunky re-edit. Less is more in most edits. Also, his own personal dislike for the film and character were edited poorly IMHO eg killing off Rose and keeping Luke alive.

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#1285628
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released)
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Hi poppasketti,

If you’re planning to do Rekindled v2.0 of the edit I’ve been watching a couple of Ivan Ortega’s livestream and Ivan showed his edit of the fight scene between Finn and Phasma where he removed the cringy dialogue. Both “Let’s go chrome dome” and the “Rebel scum” line were removed and it’s actually quite watchable. So, if you ever do a v2.0 edit it may be worth introducing the fight scene back in again with these changes. Cheers mate.

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#1281922
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The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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Valheru_84 said:

I haven’t been trying to defend him (outside of basic fairness) and even raised questions to him way back when he first started his patreon push as to the ethical and lawful issues with it and potential outfall to the larger fan editing community.

I also brought it to his attention when he was copping a fair bit of heat in this very thread, in the hope that he could come on here to explain his motives about the use of the money being essentially raised by a fan edit (hopefully more in line with what Ady does with all the funds going towards the edit, not to make a living…) and help smooth things over. Instead he simply cracked the shits and left, not trying in the least to understand anyone else’s point of view and concerns around territory everyone here shares to a greater or lesser extent with some commonly accepted ground rules so as not to endanger the great thing we do have going here (and other places).

Even after that I still felt he was going to finish and release his edit which he clearly has made with enough other people having posted videos on having watched a rough / unfinished version, though for the past 3-4 months even I have really started to doubt that it will ever be actually finished or released. He has actually said that the only thing holding up the edit now is the filming of and editing in the new Kylo vs Luke fight sequence which due to some issues, he is not sure now when that will be able to be done and so he actually announced he would be releasing the edit as is and releasing another version later on once the fight sequence edit was done. He has said this a couple of times now some months ago and still there is nothing nor any further word since. Being a fan edit, there is no actual reason that he HAS to release it, that is entirely his decision and he may end up deciding to keep it only for himself and maybe some close family and friends and there is nothing (normally) wrong with that.

The actual issue stems from the fact that he is now clearly using it to string viewers along and probably has for a long time, if not maybe from the very beginning itself though I think initially it was simply a passion project he wanted to share but as it grew into a bigger and bigger event it has changed his own view on the arrangement, wanting to get more himself out of his efforts and essentially turning the situation into preying on people’s feelings around TLJ and general interest in seeing a fan edit of it. What makes it especially bad and an ethical dilemma is that he is earning money from Youtube and Patreon because of it.

He is free of course to come on here and defend himself and try to justify everything that has happened but that ship has kind of already sailed anyway. Ultimately it would be nice for him to finish and release the edit as much for himself to finish the project as for all the people that joined him on the journey that started out so positive and hopeful. No one is forcing people to watch his videos (I stopped a couple of months back) but they were on board for a reason and that reason seems now nearly nonexistent while still being offered up as bait to continue generating income.

His next move will more or less define how he is remembered. Some examples that I can think of are as:

  • a fan editor who has a different interpretation and perspective on what is proper and allowable (still wrong but in his head it’s justified) and doesn’t cope well with the pressure, stress and expectation of the self inflicted publicity OR
  • a less than ethical fan editor who wants to be reimbursed for his time and efforts editing someone else’s property (though he’s always maintained that it will be freely available) OR
  • an outright scammer

You’re not paying attention. Only a few days ago Ivan put up a thumbnail in YouTube saying the edit was completed and to look out for it. It will be released by the end of the month.