Color grading is different, but which is the most similar to theatrical version, in your opinions? Of course, the latest version will proclaim itself as the "one with the right color grading... supervised by... using the best..." blah blah blah, but we all know this marketing lingo, so...
If the re-encoded DCP at 40mbps is good, why can't we use it? I mean, I have only a "simple" 1080p tv set, so a 2K (or a 4K) that will be 200+ GB is a bit overkill to me... (^^,) while a good BD-50 made using the re-encoded DCP (if, of course, the encoding is well done) should be much better than the BD... am I wrong?
DCP video + laserdisc bit-perfect audio = interesting result... (^^,)
In particular because there are different languages laserdiscs - beside english, there are french, german, italian and spanish, all available at least for part 1.
So it's better to stick to MPEG2 BD, right?
Some Team Blu ideas about this title?
I read somewhere that the new 3D version has "only" the first 20 minutes with DVNR, while the rest of the movie is (almost) free ot it... can someone confirm that?
top,before; bottom,second attempt (click for JPG lossy bigger version - sorry, filesize too big for PNG hosting...):
top,before; bottom,second attempt (click for PNG lossless bigger version):
I darkened a bit the image, but details should be there now.
About the fact that this pink blanket should be there: really I don't know; some expert is needed to answer this question.
I must add that it may be due to the actual film degradation, and the telecine process brought it to video...
Here I am! Today will be a BATB day, so I will start it proposing my little color correction, to avoid that pink blanket present on the laserdisc.
top,before; bottom,after:
Opinions are welcome!
Good job, You_Too! I like the fact that you restored the blue where the blu-ray has teal... but wait, maybe we should rename it teal-ray! (^^,)
About Team Blu projects in general: I'm following them, and I must say I'm very happy about your results, and the choice of movies. Keep going on this way, thank to you, Dark_Jedi and all the other TB members, the fan restoration world is richer now!
I should take a look at them, as I think many (if not all) have some sort of download link - torrent or direct download...
PROJECT RELEASED!
More info in the first post: this is the first [spoRv] project released on BD-25 with menu, trailer, complete custom made artwork for both outside and inside cover, along with disc label; I'm proud of this work, hope you will enjoy it!
bigrob said:
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bigrob, you know that I'm interesting in doing that one... if Doc could make an unapproved 2.70:1 version, who am I to NOT do an approved 1.90:1 version based on laserdisc? (^^,)
ah, it is still on your list! thought you forgot about it!
look forward to the SPORV version then ;)
No spoRv version, sorry, "only" ruLes version (restored using Laserdisc sources)... (^^,) but you must have some patience, though! I'll start a new thread when it will be the moment, don't worry.
Even if BD color grading seems OK - as it has more natural colors - I think the colder palette used on DVD is better for this kind of movies, and specifically is perfect for this title.
dvdmike said:
Glad someone did this I feel like the only Bleach Bypass/ENR/Silver Retention supporter alive at times.
The DVD was not correct tho
It seems you are not the only one... (^^,)
Do you have any suggestion about finding the correct one? HDTV maybe? Because if there is another, better source to use as color reference, I'd like to know. Thanks for your advice.
Just finished the first conversion using ColourMatch: after a brief look, it seems almost all scenes are artifacts free; the few I found could be easily fixed using another version - that, unluckily, works only for few hundred frames.
Some others, that are not a bit too different from DVD, could be fixed using another color matching script; further testing are needed, though.
Now I go to sleep; I will stay away from my main PC for two days, so no project updates until monday.
Even if AVP:R can't be considered a masterpiece, there are so many movies worst than this; AVP acting not good? But if there is one of our best italian actors, Raoul Bova... (^^,)
I cannot understand how they gave it a 5 out of 5 star when they write in the review something like "Detail, what we can see of it..."
Added some reference about color grading of DVD and BD on the first post; plus, test covers - outside and inside, plus disc label.
Today I made a mini AVP marathon - "Alien Vs. Predator" DVD, "Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem" DVD and "Predators" BD.
AVP:R was so dark, that I was forced to change setting from standard (calibrated) to dynamic (brighter-than-sun) to be able to discern something - anything - in many scenes... image sometimes lacked details, at the contrary of AVP that was astonishing for a DVD.
About color grading, the first shot - which is the same from the end of AVP - has completely different colors, while the rest of the movie seemed ok to me - it could be interesting to apply a color regrading to the first shot, to be equal to AVP color wise, and see how the whole movie looks like.
Don't know if the BD of AVP:R has the same problems - brightness, *possible* color grading problems, low resolution - but if it is, it has a chance to be a future candidate for a preservation... don't you think?
Is it allowed to link to preservation outside the forum?
There are some interesting ones not present here...
bigrob, you know that I'm interesting in doing that one... if Doc could make an unapproved 2.70:1 version, who am I to NOT do an approved 1.90:1 version based on laserdisc? (^^,)
Gladiator on BD has a different color grading than DVD - if the latter is the right one, I'm not sure, though... if it is, then it could worth a restoration... so, a Cinema DTS soundtrack will be a nice addition, don't you think?
Kong, you did a good job with Titanic... and you were faster than me... I hate you! (^^,) (^^,) (^^,)
At least, I have some fun doing "Minority Report" lately...
BTILC color grading on BD is not that bad; but the fact that is a John Carpenter movie, lead me to consider it for a future preservation, along with "The Fog"...
Added the movies of the previous post in the first one, plus other found in this very thread and around the net.
Movies that deserve a restoration:
Movies with few differences between the DVD and BD editions (sometimes are barely noticeable, other times limited only to some scenes):
Welcome aboard, Doc, at last! (^^,)
I'm waiting for your other preservations (future and past) to be posted here, too.
the unsurpassed video and audio quality that the format offer."
- Open letter to George Lucas to Variety
Well? The fact is that I found this frame inside a .vob file on the second disc (the one with extra features) of "Minority Report" PAL DVD - bought about ten years ago...
...dutch subtitles was not even present in the whole disc...
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