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Zyrother said:

I also see the 1986 Japan widescreen set mentioned a ton as the definitive release of the OOT. But, from a restoration/upscale point, we then have to contend with Japanese subtitles.

IIRC subtitles are outside picture...

Thanks to everyone! Maybe it's time to remove that presumptuous title, chosen few years ago...

Even if GOUT used the same master of DC (and Faces) laserdisc, it has a better resolution; but ***maybe***, using different editions (read: NOT DC nor Faces), good player, and happycube software/hardware capture solution, right software techniques and filters, it is ***possible*** to get a better result than GOUT - just because the latter is not anamorphic, and its quality is quite poor in comparison to the DVD quality standards... if you have time, read this thread to know more about other laserdisc versions of Star Wars that could be interested to restore.

It could be possible to reach amazing results (thinking about original source) with good quality laserdiscs, multiple captures, PaNup and SuperResolution techniques, coupled with some cleaning filters - take a look at the comparisons in this post.

stretch009 said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Found interesting news lately...

• It seems there is a 1997SE recording of an Australian broadcast; hope to find more info on this
• There were WOWOW broadcasts of all the episodes, in 5.1; even if in "mere" MPEG2, these files (if found) could potentially maybe better than any other ones available until now - according to other WOWOW caps like ROTLA trilogy, Aliens etc.

 and....  WOWOW cap Back to the Future Part I

Yep, forgot about that!

Great update happycube!

Found interesting news lately...

• It seems there is a 1997SE recording of an Australian broadcast; hope to find more info on this
• There were WOWOW broadcasts of all the episodes, in 5.1; even if in "mere" MPEG2, these files (if found) could potentially maybe better than any other ones available until now - according to other WOWOW caps like ROTLA trilogy, Aliens etc.

Jetrell Fo said:

At least with the cinema dts, you probably have a better chance of having a raw version compared to a tweaked home video version. 

100% agree!!!

@team_negative1: here you are the comparisons

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127530
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127531

@ilovewaterslides: even if I agree they are too blue for my tastes, the phrase "With more natural colors" may refer in comparison with an even more blueish, untouched version...

Too much involved in other projects... but it will be done (sooner or, probably, later)!

I *think* that, at the time, when studio talk about DTS on laserdisc, to have "the same sound you can hear in theaters", they mean it - *maybe* DTS made, at the time, a "piece of hardware" that can convert Cinema DTS -> Home (LD) DTS (read: APT-X100 -> DTS CA) in an easy way... this is just a conjecture, of course...

I think an "harsh" version could used better to refine somehow the image with further filters, than a softer one... again, IMHO!

Thanks happycube, you are right... going to upload the proper image, and just edited the previous message!

DrDre: I asked because I noted SR V8 is softer than previous versions, also softer than mine...

SuperResolution V8 Vs MagicSR - frame 17119
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127004

SuperResolution V8 Vs MagicSR - frame 22100
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127006

SuperResolution V8 Vs MagicSR - frame 23755(wait a minute http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127013

what do you think?

TV's Frink: I like to eat letters sometimes, vocals are my favourite! By the way... @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ (enough for the rest of this thread)... and I miss your old avatar...

DrDre, two questions:

are you using some blurring in the first three comparisons at Post 592?

And, according to the fact that the first frame of "Star Wars" should be 711, could you state the frame number for each comparison?

If someone (me, in particulr) would like to compare his/her own upscale filter, it's difficult to spot each single frame everytime! (^^,)

Thanks!!!

Great job! A long and difficult task, solved with a stunning avisynth script... well done!!!

CapableMetal said:

That is correct. The '82 PAL Laserdisc and the earlier PAL VHS releases are pan & scan after the opening shot.

Still, it could be used for eventual restorations, because it *could* be better than the NTSC GOUT - anamorphic PAL would have 1.6x the resolution of a letterbox NTSC; captured via happycube method, upscaled with SR, refined with carefully chosen filters, could be a very good intro... or not?

Found on Russ' site - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/swfull.html - the screenshot of the 1982 PAL laserdisc (can't hotlink the image); noted that the planet is oval, so it *should* be an anamorphic (unwanted) version; I wonder if the whole movie is the same...

That's great, thank you very much!

Another technical post... I like it! (^^,)

OK, here you are my thought about Star Wars Semi-Specialised Edition V2.2L - please take this cum grano salis, because I'm still using a small, old, uncalibrated LCD... I'm sure I have a perfect color vision - at least, following an online test, for what it worth - but my monitor didn't want to do the test, so... (^^,)

White: I LOVE your "whiter than white whites"! I always hated those tinted whites in SW, now I'm happy with them, finally! Un untealized sky is priceless!

But... there is *always* a but... maybe you have exagerated a bit with the green, that makes the faces look... "off", wrong...

Again, maybe it's just my monitor...

Spaced Ranger said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

... I continue to whistle that stupid "blah blah" song, almost all the day ...

    I hope it's the original, 1989 version ...  ?  bl-l-l-l-lah!  bl-l-l-l-lah!  ?   

Of course!!!

It was in my head since the first time I watched it, then remained "in the air" for a year or two... now I guess it will stay around even longer!!! (^^,)

Thanks to this thread, I continue to whistle that stupid "blah blah" song, almost all the day... thank you, Spaced Ranger, thank you so much! (^^,) (^^,) (^^,)

Still think the inversion-phase trick could work best - even if we should capture a disc twice; still got to find out a way, hardware or software, to properly produce it, though...

Yep, thank you very much!!!

DrDre, thanks for the article on fanres!!!

An idea: why don't you try the subpixel shift - that you used for your example - also on GOUT? Maybe it will work not, but trying is harmless! (^^,)

Yes! If you could help the project, you are welcome!