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Gorgeous!

Well, it seems to be a studio produced trailer; it mean you made a great job, congratulation bendermac!

DrDre, fanres is up and running, waiting for your SuperResolution article! (^^,)

OK, finally I got the Flunk - no, that's not a fancy named exotic flu...

What's is very good is the fact it has more details at the side - maybe just 1% more, but it's enough to me... I tried to integrate the Flunk with the Gkar+TB combined, and here you are the result:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126355

it seems very well integrated, don't you think? The fact is, in many, too many shots, the two don't blend so well, and I'm too lazy to align them shot by shot; so, I think to focus on restoring the Flunk alone - that, by the way, *should* be better than the other two, at least according to the file sizes... and yes, Flunk has some garbage frames, that will be replaced with one, or both, the other sources; until now, I found only the shot when Leia gives the plans to R2D2; maybe there are other shots around, I still have to check the whole film - if someone is aware of other messed shots, please post here!

UPDATE: added some Flunk & RaiTre data

It seems so... until now, at least; but I'll be happy to prove myself wrong!

I noted it since the first (or second?) time I watched SW... it's an edit mistake; you could find it on GOUT, too - around frame 27200...

Indeed, film frames are beautiful, and colors look good "as is", even if need some adjustement; I also noted that sometimes few details are lost in the film, while present in the DVD, and vice versa...

But if you think the MagicSR (yes, I used the Super Resolution for the GKar+TB combination) is made using broadcast SDTV, the result is outstanding... the worst offending thing, to me, is not color, or detail, but the fact that it's heavily cropped, while film has, obviously, the whole picture intact!

Hope to see the film preservation ASAP - even if 97SE is not my preferred version, I want to see it "on film" as well!

The truth is: I'd like to fix it, because it could be compressed better, but I have so many projects to finish/start/redo, that this is one of the last I'll take in consideration, just because it's very very good, and a LOT better - color wise - than any BD. So, I think you should go for it now! (^^,)

Hey, I spent two hours to make these comparisons... now I *force* you to give some feedback! (^^,)

@team_negative1: thanks for the screenshots!

Here you are the comparison between yours, and GKar+TB enhanced - no color regrading, reframed to match, more or less, the film frames

R2D2:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126119

Soldier:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126120

Troopers on the desert:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126121
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126122
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126122
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126123

Tank:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126124

DrDre, happycube: thanks!

AntcuFaalb: a certain laserman signed up on fanres; don't know if he's the same person, though...

towne32 said:

 It's so much much better, just not good. :)

Maybe, but still awful for my taste! (^^,)

I thought to do it, but first I must find a way to let the capture chain work again, then buy a new HDD to contain this, and many others, half-finished projects... now unfortunately it's not the right time, but I hope to see better days soon!

That's great happycube! Sure you'll be able to fix the output width!

About "pyramid": I found the Mos Eisley shot, and here it is better IMHO than the THX DE in several way:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126002
so I took the former, cleaned, upscaled, freely regraded, and slapped a grain plate over it:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126000

not bad, for a 20 years laserdisc using a bad master...

DrDre said:

The newest versions of MagicUp look like a big step up from their previous incarnations. Very interested to see how it does on some other scenes. 

Me too! (^^,) I searched into my old HDD, and still not found any corresponding PAL-NTSC shot... continue the search, though, as at this moment I have problems with my capture card/driver so I can't capture anymore... (**_)

With regards to super resolution, I think that since Laserdisc generally has a somewhat lower resolution, SR will add less details than for a DVD. So, I think all things considered MagicUp V1.3 probably has the edge when in comes to upscaling Laserdisc sourced videos. 

Dunno, maybe it's due to lower resolution of the source, or the fact it's made from still frames - just the escape pod is moving; again, further tests are needed, using other clips.

Danfun128 said:

Silly question, but where can I find this MagicUp? A Google search doesn't do anything...

You'll find it nowhere... it's just my silly habit to rename almost all my avisynth function with the Magic prefix... this let me remind myself how magical this software often appears, according to its incredible results!

Asaki said:

Most impressive. I wonder how it looks in motion.

I'm not sure about the artificial film grain, though. My eyes see the sharp grain and the lower resolution picture at the same time and it doesn't feel very natural to me. Maybe if the whole thing were at SD resolution (or whatever res the original files were in) it would look better?

Maybe a coarse grain will work better... let me find some other clip, and I'll test'em both!

Zyrother said:

...is the 97 SE considered better than the 2004 SE because the color timing in the 97 SE are way better and more natural?

Yes. Definitely yes.

97 also has a lot less revisionism than the 04s (no Prequels yet). However, 97 does have a bit of motion blur going on, and some of the CGI in the 04 looks maybe 10% less ugly. Jabba in Ep IV is a good example.

Yep, 97 Jabba is awful - not that 04 is so much better...

That's exactly it!!! Thanks a lot, IcePrick!

I remember the first time I saw this on TV, more than 20 years ago, and it was sculpted in my memory, along with another fun animated short about a strange cook who cut his finger by accident, and finish to cut himself in pieces... if only I could remember its title, though... (- -_)

MP4 and MKV are only containers, so you could remux video and audio with no quality loss; my advice is to use TSmuxer and remux the mkv to m2ts, like I usually do.

It has "hidden" details to be discored, though... found a small clip of Mos Eisley, taken from the pyramid and the German THX laserdiscs; working on them to extract every single subpixel as possible... (^^,)

OK, thanks. What's about the "pyramid" set? Have you noted the pink tint is present only in about half of the scenes, scattered randomly throught the whole movie?

I like laserdisc colors most! Is the capture taken using the software decoder?

Here you are your avisynth function:

function lowchromanoise (clip clip) {
clip
SeparateFields
Spline16Resize(clip.width/4,clip.height/2)
Spline16Resize(clip.width,clip.height/2)
Weave
MergeLuma(clip)
}

don't know if using other spline, or different resizer at all, will increase the quality, though... hope to find out some other capture to test it...

Made a brief test, and it seems to work quite well... despite the fact my brain is still convincing me that the contrary is true... but it need further investigations, nevertheless! (^^,)

AntcuFaalb said:

Exactly! So what happens when you blur every 3 pixels? Do you end up with 120 or 40?

Get the point; the fact is, those three pixels are not fixed; I mean, we could have 2+1/2 red, 3+1/3 yellow, 2+2/3 red and so on... right? Then, that it works good or not I think is dependant also from each disc.

120 lines (max) will be sampled (roughly) as 120 samples 3 pixels wide, that's it... if not, we'll get 360 effective chroma resolution even from VHS, that had (when lucky) around 30...

Also, luma sampled at 6.75MHz gives 720 pixel, that are not the effective luma resolution... I'll kill to have a VHS tape with an effective horizontal resolution of 720 pixel (luma) and 360 (chroma)... don't you? (^^,)