skyjedi2005

SO would 90% Cgi and jar jar. Wooden Hayden emo whiney douche and epic fail scripts translate into radio?

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/THX-1138-Blu-ray/9459/

I kind of dislike Lucas at the moment.

First the oot of star wars gets non anamorphic laserdisc masters in 2006, and now they probably will release THX directors cut, no theatrical and like indy and star wars only done in 1080p by Lowry.  LOL at Lucas.

I liked the EU before it was a redo of the bad prequels.  Man what can't Lucas ruin.

The roger roger robots and Jar Jar pretty much made me turn it off during season 1.  I tried season 2 but the palpatine machinations and the dumb cad bane boba fett ripoff was really lame.

Totally childish cartoon made for children.

According to the page on Amazon.  First pushed back from may to july, now to almost december.  Completely unacceptable.  I know the arc copy has been out for a while and just how rare it is.

The book is finished.  Make people wait a year for no good goddamn reason, great idea.

Reminds me of the fourth fate of the jedi book all over again.  But at least there they had the excuse of the writer having a heart attack.

The star wars publishing program at the moment seems to be run very moronically, or maybe the market is really bad?

I would be interested in Return of the Jedi getting more of a shakedown.

Considering it is the score that got the worst treatment by LFL.

They only found the original masters recently and have no intention of going back to them to redo the score.  They had copies of copies for the special edition release they used like a second or third generation copy and then dnr it to hell.

I know your set is pretty good as it is.  But is there any way to do a film edit?

I nominate George Lucas Raped Our Childhood.  Because after all this is an ot site,lol.

TheBoost said:

xhonzi said:

TheBoost said:

 Oh. So you're intepretting "Avatar" as an Iraq War analogy?  I think that's stretching the material a bit.

Really?  I have no doubt that Avatar was meant, by Cameron and most other people involved, to be an Irag War analogy.

No doubt whatsoever.

OK, I just read that Cameron make some remarks where he explcitly states that was his goal. But he sure did a piss poor job of it.

Everything the Iraq War is about is absent. Iraq is not based on some touchy-feely environementalism and a failure of two peoples to communicate. Even the staunchest opponents of the war wouldn't make that claim.

Now, if Avatar it was set in the Starship Troopers universe, and after the bugs destroy Buenos Aires THEN humans go  invade Avatarworld as retribution, that would be a better analogy.

But just having a character say "there's some resource we want" and using the term "shock and awe" doesn't impart some kind of powerful political meaning into the film.

I declare "epic fail" if Cameron thought he had something relevant to say on Iraq.

You know what i agree with you.  AVATAR as a message on the war on terror is one giant epic fail.

I vote he was either killed by jar jar or Ric Olie,lol.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

I'd like to take credit for it, but one of my OT.com ignoring friends from IRL actually pointed that out.

You have a friend in the Indy Racing League?

(Oh man, I just realized that means something entirely different here...cue Crystal Skull complaints)

Indy's race car will be a lead lined fridge with nuclear powered rockets,lol.

vote_for_palpatine said:

 

xhonzi, this is perfect. Putting Anakin and Padme out of harm's way as it happened in the movie denied the story this angle.

Padme, at least in my idea of who the character is, wouldn't allow herself to fall for Anakin based upon attraction alone. She would need another reason, a much more powerful reason, to "break the rules".

Matter of fact, Han grew on Leia because he was willing to do anything at all to keep her safe - rushing headlong into a stormtrooper squad, flying into an asteroid field, attacking a star destroyer, anything.

Han's motivations are interesting because he claims he did all that for the money.  That he is nothing more than an immoral mercenary in it for purely selfish reasons.  Which he was at first.  The thing is nobody knew when they saw star wars that he would show up and save Luke.  The greedo scene is supposed to show just how much of a gunslinger type character he is and then that scenes changes our opinion of him. 

Only in the special edition it is ruined because greedo shoots first.

I think Han was attracted to Leia because she was an unavailable women as far as social status goes.  Alderaanian royalty with an underworld criminal with a death mark. 

The fact that Anakin and Padme were forbidden to be together made being together desirable.  Stupid Jedi and their rules.  You wonder how the order ever lasted for a thousand years or more.

Did not Jet Li get it on with the prostitute in that movie kiss of the dragon or something.

Yes Things like unobtaniam supposed to be oil.

Quotes like "shock and awe" and "We'll fight terror with terror"

Just like Christopher Nolan having batman wiretap all gotham is supposed to be a condemnation of Bush Patriot Act.

Or Anakin in Episode III Saying "If your not with me then your my enemy".

But i thought the Bush Era was over and we have Hope and Change.

Basically no different than Jim's treatment of the destructiveness of man in t2.  He believes that even in the future human nature would not change.

No different than Ray Bradbury having Man destroy Earth in the martian chronicles only to also destroy mars, even if it is not blown up like the earth.  Bradbury referred to man as "locusts".

Basically this is the opposite of the Utopian vision Roddenberry put forward with Star Trek but more true to reality.

TheBoost said:

skyjedi2005 said:

I love the film True Lies.  Hollywood people don't have the balls to make a film like that these days.  Even Cameron has become an apologist with AVATAR.

 Seriously. You just cant get any bad-guy Arabs in the mainstream leftist media anymore, not like the good old days. On an unrelated note, when does the new season of 24 start?

And Cameron needs to get his wimpy politics out of my entertainment. To imply that forced relocation and genocide is bad makes me sick.

I was not referring to the angle of the native americans but that it made as some claim al quida seem like the good guys and they are the enemy.  The thing with stealing oil from Iraq is mostly a lie anyways we don't get all of our oil from there.

Now i'm not sure i agree with the point of cameron siding with our enemies, he is just pointing out that innocents and civilians are all killed in war.

The genocide and relocation thing was already dealt with in a science fiction context in Star trek insurrection, a film i like that Trekkies did not show up for nor did the mainstream audiences.

Still the same race thing there reminded me of the Jews and Muslims.  But in that film the baku and the sona were white, so the message might not get through like blueskinned aliens catpeople with elvish ears, and monkey tails. If he gave them red or black skin color i'm sure they would have said cameron was a racist.

The Darth Plagueis thing in Revenge of the Sith probably leaves the door open. 

But i know people like VINH will say that is not canon,lol.

The Spirit Transference idea comes up in the third Bane novel.  So i don't think it has been abandoned.

Also there is no reason the Sparti cloning cylinders cannot be retconned into the continuity.  Since cloning exists in the prequels.

Cloned jedi versus a Mandalorian army and sith warriors probably was the original idea anyway, not boba fetts dad who never existed before episode II.

Also a fully suited vader and adult Boba fett helping him track down and exterminate the jedi.

Luke and Leias mother goes into hiding and other stuff like that.

If Their full genetic code was used The clone would have the same abilities as the original source with training, because they would have the same midichlorian cells replicated in them.

It would be beyond the scope of this thread to talk about whether or not a clone has a soul.  Or how can a jedi clone not be useless once their templates spirit joins the force. Unless they also clone memories and experiences.

I still remember that song George Lucas Raped our childhood saying all the new characters in episode 1 were racist stereotypes,lol.

It remind me of people who said empire strikes back was racist because Lando was black and was a traitor to Han a white man.

I love the film True Lies.  Hollywood people don't have the balls to make a film like that these days.  Even Cameron has become an apologist with AVATAR.

Islamofascists are homicidal maniacs and bloodthirsty morons.  Why else do they saw innocent peoples heads off?  Is it there peaceful way of saying hi to the rest of the world?

Why do people equate the general populace of these middle eastern countries as such, when a film like true lies was more likely aimed at al quida and the people responsible for the first world trade center attack.

Mass Effect 2 will only make sense for those who chose Liara in the first game if they read the comic Redemption.  Which is only has 3 issues released out of 4 at the moment. 

Probably more novels and dlc to fill in the blanks.

Ric Olie said:

OK!  OK!  I admit it!  I killed him.  But I just did it for the tasing!

ferris---> <---Ric

Oh, that's right...

ferris---> <---Ric

You know it...

ferris---> <---Ric

One more time!

ferris---> <---Ric

Wooooooooooooooo!

"Don't taze me bro!"  LOL

The Episode 1 DVD is an abomination.  The only thing good about it is the documentary.

The artificial sharpening of the picture, caused edge enhancement.

These seem to me to be tweaks rather than what was probably on the DI they used to master the DVD.

I know they did not bother to go back to the film itself since a lot of the effects were done in the computer and the film was edited on  a computer.  That is why Lucas probably skipped the film step altogether for Episodes II and III.  Since he was going for a video look in the first place if the unnatural color timing of the theatrical release and how it looked overly clean was any indicator.

He destroyed the originals to match that overbrightened and dvnr soft image.  I even wonder if he did a dvnr pass on the phantom menace after the original photography was transfered to digital tape.  Since in the theater i could not see any filmgrain really there at all except during the tatooine scenes.

Which if done would have been ironic since he had them oversharpen the DVD.

Sort of Like the Tantive IV blockcade runner being blueish instead of white in episode IV now but White again in revenge of the sith,lol.

C3PX said:

Pulp Fiction.

 

skyjedi2005 said:

Star Trek 2009.

Liked it enough as an action Flick, dissapointed in it as a star trek film.

Still better by far than the Lucash prequels.

Don't defend J.J. Trek, it was shit up one side and down the other, and you know it.

Sky, you sadden me. You're the guy who posted big about boycotting this movie, then you went and saw it in theaters within the first couple of days of its release anyway, and apparently you just watched it again recently. I wouldn't be surprised to find you own it on DVD (recieved as a gift, no doubt).

 

No I never bought the DVD, yes someone gifted it to me.  I would have loved if their was no lens flares and shaky cam so people could actually watch the acting, or cinematography.  Also a version without the overacting and bad accent of Bana, or Kirk as a narcissistic asswhole who is instantly made Captain at the end of the movie.

I hated how they made the Kobiyashi Maru a joke.  How they made Scotty into a bumbling idiot savant, and who has some sort of midget alien sidekick.  I hated the rap. I hated the music video mtv mindset editing and the sense it was made for people with no attention span whatsoever.

I would basically put this movie on par with nemesis which i watched recently and was not as bad as i remembered it being.  TREK V was worse than i remembered last i watched it.

There is no version where you can turn off the lens flares.  Normally something like  that would make me turn the movie off within the first ten minutes.

Still its no more worse than JJ Abrams subtanceless directing of Lost, Alias, MI3, Fringe etc.

It was like fast and the furious, Cloverfield and transformers mixed with Trek.  A sickening combination and still not as bad as the star wars prequels.  Perhaps Next Gen was my Generations Star Trek, or because i like star wars better, i don't know. 

Maybe because never expected anything else from JJ.  He never made a THX 1138, American Graffiti, or Star Wars.  I expected better of Lucas based on his history as a director.

Recently i gave Crystal Skull another chance with a free library rental.  Worse than i remember it in theaters.  Seriously The prequels and indy IV get worse on each viewing, i don't know how that is possible.  When Raiders, Empire Strikes Back, and Star Wars get better.  The more times i view Jedi, Doom and Last Crusade they loose a bit because of their bad parts still not the complete shit in the toilets that those recent Spielberg and Lucas attrocities were.

The dvd was awful.

Non Anamorphic.

Also was there problems with it that also plagued early DVD's?

I cannot remember exactly but it was really bogus.

Anyone with the G'kar set willing to help a fellow fan out PM me.

I had that set but traded it away, and now i'm kicking myself for doing so since i can't find a good quality source of the 1997 theatrical releases.

Yes i know they are in PAL.  But my new cheapo dvd player can play then on my ntsc tv.

I just want an anamorphic DVD set of the original movies restored from the best surviving elements.

They can also do blu ray for those who want that.

The oot.  Don't even care if its barebones. As long as it has the theatrical audio, don't want a new audio mix.

Won't buy episodes 1-3 ever again.  Even if Episode 1 ever gets a restoration, or he releases the theatrical versions.  The same with the 2004 will never buy that again.

I am kind of for nostalgia's sake though wanting the less butchered though still tampered with 1997 trilogy versions. The way i saw them in the theaters. That quality.  My laserdisc copies don't even compare.

The newer slimpack set of the trilogy included neither theatrical version. Both were home video releases.  The 1993 definitive collection Laserdisc mastered to DVD, and the 2004 a video edited release.  Neither ever in film resolution. Neither have the real sound mixes or look the way they should.

I can't believe that after 20 million dollars spent on a restoration in 1996-97 and a massive worldwide search for all the original film elements did not turn up a suitable copy of the oot for blu ray, its nothing short of a lie that they don't exist.  Lucas won't spend the money and the 97 restoration was funded by fox.

At least as far as the original trilogy goes.  Those worked because of collaboration.

The more control he had when the studio no longer had any say and he could do anything he wanted the worse the star wars movies got.

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I prefer Indiana Jones before Lucas was seduced by CGI.  He ceased to be George Lucas and became Darth Lucash, the good person he was, was killed from a certain point of view.