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Bingowings said:

I used to think Vader's ship was called The Executioner when I was a kid.

It's actually a better name when you think about it.

It's made of metal and it must be heavy.

It was the Devastator in the radio Drama but that was his old ship the Superclass one Executor was built later.  Shown being built in the Al Williamson newspaper comics series.

I liked Bring my shuttle.  The delivery is awesome, Vader is pissed.

I think not this release but one of the others for star wars SE that came from a digibeta tape, some questions were asked  as to ascertain if the individual or tape still was around.

I think it was the FLUNK, not the reivex or Gkar.

The person who also had Empire on digibeta but it was never released because the tape had problems or something not sure.]

A digital betacam tape is good enough quality for broadcast when it was aired and mostly good enough for DVD but it will never yield HD quailty.

All TV prints had their problems and so did the VHS and Laserdiscs.  The only way too see the 97 edition ideally would be on film but who has them on 35mm?  They shredded the prints or cut them into film cels years ago.

Tolkien's Fall of Arthur will be published this year and i highly doubted it would ever happen.  Now if only the longer Beren and Luthien can be published or his renderings of Beowulf and Commentaries.

I still have to pick up his longer originally unpublished on fairy stories essay published in the united kingdom but not the US.

Also hoping his beowulf and the Critics essay not the shorter version gets reprinted.

Was really disappointing that the audiobook version of Sigurd and Gudrun never came out despite the trailer i have the book and it is quite good.

Already have read the entirely of the history of middle earth, unfinished tales, Children Of Hurin, history of the hobbit etc. Makes me wonder what other manuscripts are yet to be discovered by Christopher Tolkien,lol.

To answer DFNYC i saw an HD doc called Prophets of Sci FI on the science channel which re-aired recently shown about a a year ago originally not sure if someone has the HD files for it.  Originally 2012.

Before Lucas sold to Disney.  Not very good documentary either.  Very Boring and trying very hard to link science fantasy to science fact a bit like How William Shatner saved the world. 

Well i know in the modern Era they used super35 a lot for budgetary reasons.  Like on Star Trek VI but II was shot in scope.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy was shot in super35 but then cropped to 2:35:1 ratio.  Like Star Trek VI in the theatrical version.

In the Sixties/seventies they often used Techniscope because it was cheap too.  I know It was used on  a movie Kurtz worked on prior to working with Lucas, as well as on Graffiti and THX.  Oh and Sergio Leone used it in the dollars trilogy.

A long time ago on Ebay most of a decade ago i would imagine for only somewhere between 150.00 and 250.00  US dollars.  Steep price for a documentary but the print was a Rare LPP and unfaded.

Almost as nice as the Derann Super8mm Jedi.  I doubt we will ever see another.  But i have yet to see any more dodgy faded prints either.

Funny enough a couple years ago some guy had the making of raiders a library print i think and fading, when asked if he had any from star wars to jedi he said no.

The Making of Star Wars and SPFX are not rare but i have hardly ever seen classic creatures.  I would venture to say its even rarer than from star wars to Jedi.

Would like to collect some 16mm films sadly they are hard to find these days.  And i wish i could afford the hobby.  Nothing i desire more to own than the Derann Return of the Jedi feature in super 8 or some star blazers episodes in 16mm.

But Prowse was just the physicality of Vader he did not play Vader that was James Earl Jones.

Or we Would have a very jarring bad voiced villain with a hard welsh accent.

Is it true that the man with the golden gun and Live and Let die were not shot in Cinemascope because the director hated it or the cinematographer?

I mean Diamond's was shot in scope and that was Guy Hamilton.  And All three films were shot by Ted Moore.

I would like it using only the oot as a starting point and pretend the 90's and 2000's prequels never happened.

If any prequel material needs be used at all which i don't think needs to be done it should be based on the old sketched out and never shot prequels of the 70's and 80's.

Many things hashed out by Lucas and Kurtz were either abandoned or combined to make the trilogy wrap up in a neat bow.  Leia made the sister, when the sister was not to appear until the second trilogy.  The Emperor appeared earlier he was not supposed to show up til the second trilogy.

Kenobi had two pupils Skywalker and Vader well Lucas just decided to combine them on Empire.

All the stuff that was supposed to fit into 4 films was compress into 1 in return of the Jedi.

Now that they are making a different sequel set it will be an original story and not the original outline for those films.

SilverWook said:

The ending scene for Episode III was originally shot on location in Tunisia during production on AOTC, but was reshot in the studio on ROTS.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/special-deliveries/

Crews were dispatched to various locales to shoot background plates for Mustafar and Kashyyk, but it does seem the main unit never left the studio.

The same as Crystal Skull.  Background plates were the new location shooting for the jungle scenes and waterfalls.  Though other sets the college, the restaurant/bar, new Mexico and Peru were real.  Or at least i think they were.

The clone troopers and pilots in Episode II and III were cgi using the actors likeness for jango and boba.  No stormtropper like suit of physical armor was made or used no actual human was shot playing those roles.

The precursor to the X-wing, Tiefighter ships were all cgi in II and III.  The stardestroyers or republic cruisers were all faked in cgi.  Well at least Hayden Vader's suit was real but he was too short to match Prowse height.

The pick up shots done in Tunisia were done during post production on Clones i believe so they would not have to go back again.

As for where it was shot i thought a good deal if not all was on set in a warehouse that used to be a rolls royce factory and they used green screen to shoot Vader's masking, Vaders NOOO and Frankenstein act, Vader the emperor and tarkin overlooking the death star.

The making of book really try to get into a sense of where Lucas wanted to take the direction of the film, a lot of ideas were not used many for the better.  But changing Vader's turn from being seduced by power to saving padme from dying was moronic.

captainsolo said:

As of now, I think the new color timing is closer to the original but with more modern leanings.

I believe this as well as close to the theatrical as possible so far on home video but i also believe they went a bit further. Too far imho to give the images more punch.  Indy's skin tone should not be bright orange the color is a bit blown out, but probably again to approximate the original timing plus being viewed through an old 70's -80's projector bulb.

I still call it the faux IB technicolor print since Raiders never had one.

   You never had a generation free print of raiders with colors this perfect as   this digital facsimile.  But when they did the new reissue in imax i highly doubt they would have gone to an old IP for the original degraded 3rd generation look.

I highly doubt they used an Eastman release print from 1981 as the color source they probably sourced a print that was not the same as shown at virtually all theaters.  The vast majority of star wars prints, empire prints and Raiders prints were all on shitty George Eastman high fade vinegar susceptible stock.

The 70mm revival print of yesteryear was Vastly different than the imax experience print.  Colors much more brown than orange.  Still the source for that was undisclosed and we do know the imax was taken from the OCN.

The 1981 print is close to the blu ray in color if the ebay auction was right, but then why the 1990's prints were different then?  Those were closer to the home video versions.

Its oh so confusing.  But i would venture Harmy would be right in suggesting an earlier color source would be more correct but as seeing as Eastman stock fades severely over time who can say what the original colors were.

Then we get into the Lowry print business.  They used what IP/IN masters or the OCN?  And did they time them to the same colors as the VHS/Laserdisc releases incorrectly assuming the colors were accurate?

That would be mental as far as i'm concerned the 1997 restoration team for star wars hardly used the definitive collection laserdisc as a color source.

Its on my pay service in HD.  But you need some subscription or other to a pay station to view it.

Its the same station that paid Shatner to make the Captains, and Get A Life.

If Dwayne Johnson is in Star Wars might as well be directed by Michael Bay.

WWE plus explosions and stupidity, sure i can see Vince as the executive producer as well, might as well throw in Steve Austin as a Sithlord.

I am holding out hope someday some fan will do an HD scan of From Star Wars to Jedi, i mean if that unfaded LPP print ever resurfaces.

Based on those screen grabs i wish this were the official blu ray.  How much would it have cost them to do a 4k restore of just star wars 77 from the ocn and also a reference scan of George's IB tech print?

And if they can restore Raiders which according to Mr Robert Harris did not need restoration what about star wars which is in very dire need of one.

Tobar said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Tobar said:

Oh and did anyone else notice Maul's yellowish orange lightsaber?

Now that's an alteration I can get behind!

Does it look like this on the blu-ray?

The colors on the prequel films on BD were as hit or miss as the SE of the original trilogy from shot to shot in some of them Maul's saber was Pink.  In others red and yes orange or purple in others.

 I hope Disney has the brains to not make a Young Han Solo movie starring Shia from Crystal Skull and Bayformers

Lucas knew he was making the story up as he went but created a false mythology for fan worship that he had the whole 3 trilogies in his head since day one.

Then it became only six movies about the story of darth vader now made false because of sequel trilogy.

He could have just admitted having no omniscience over star wars but his godhood status would have been threatened for this self made star wars cult in which Lucas oversaw and created everything.

He once did claim it was all a collaborative thing and gave thanks to the others involved as late as receiving the Irving Thalberg award.

On the prequels i don't think he wanted to be challenged and brought in a whole new team to oversee his vision.  From the young indy series. except of course he still had Dennis Muren and Ben Burtt from the original series.

He also brought back John Williams, and Tony Daniels to voice C-3PO.

Okay so he brought back a handful of the original players in the OOT.  But none of the writers or directors, producers/cinematographers.

SilverWook said:

There was a second run Image did to replace rotted copies for free. It's impossible to tell them from the rotters, but they are out there.

The Japanese pressing (which includes both versions) does not have the same issues.

How rare was the japan laserdisc.  I have bought japanese laserdiscs in the past but they were always pricey.

Though that is pretty much the market there, dvd and blu ray are also very expensive.

3 films not videos, with good stories not just aiming to sell toys or tie in video games.

With Episode VII there is a good chance it will be shot on film and post converted to 3D digital, since Abrams eschewed shooting either star trek on video.

I just hope he leaves the lens flares out of star wars.

I also hope the glitzy cgi look of the prequels is replaced with the realistic lived in look of the oot.

But will his director of cinematography try to match the prequels which were all David Tatterstall and rubbish in my opinion or opt to copy Gil Taylor or Peter Suschitzky, probably not Alan Hume since many consider Jedi to be cheaply shot and not very well made, not me but the first two really are benchmarks.

Since the practical real effects unit not cgi was sold to  a former ILM'er and went out of business.  Highly unlikely Hamill if involved will get his real sets, real props and real effects.

Considering the Enterprise was all CGI in Star Trek 2009 and no physical model was built we can probably see the same for Luke's X-wing and the millennium falcon.

Way too many unknowns since none of the big three are signed, and John Williams is not involved yet because its way too early.  Also there is no finished script.

One thing i am very optimistic about is that Orci and Kurtzmen are not writing star wars.  They wrote the last two star treks and also wrote Amazing Spider-man II.

Because JJ is doing episode 7 there will be lots of explosions and plenty of action.  But what worried me about this choice of director is his trek lacked the sense of wonder the original had, makes me also worry the sense of wonder star wars 77 had will also be absent.

DID those  Fleischer superman cartoons ever end up on the anthology blu ray in HD, i heard they did but since i don't own the BD i cannot say whether or not they are.

I am a huge fan of the Fleischer studios work.  I wish Betty Boop and Popeye were on BD too.

I once almost purchased the work in progress version of BATB on laserdisc but noticed its one of the worst rotters on the format so cancelled that purchase.

Is the WowWow broadcast still available for Raiders?  At least Doom and Crusade were unaltered on the BD.

The HD broadcast i saw recently for raiders was pretty bad but it was the lowry same as the DVD's.

I personally want a blu ray like the WowWow broadcast. I mean color wise, the 4k restore would be perfect if they did not play digitally with the colors.

Otherwise an IP or later generation source should have been used, using the ocn meant having to newly color time the movie and we all know how well that has worked with star wars and james bond.

The color on the Lowry HD broadcast was wrong but this version looked very low res because of the extreme use of DVNR that was present.

Lowry seems to love to DNR they hell out of everything they touch.

As far as i know Raiders never had a IB technicolor print, but the blu ray and its blown out colors seems to be like they wanted a faux Technicolor IB raiders. And went a bit too far. 

poita said:

These would be a nice addition:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Star-Wars-Empire-Strikes-Back-Editing-see-12-back-poster-original-prop-/221200390421?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3380921915

For that kind of money you could get all 3 films of the oot in LPP, or buy a technicolor print of star wars.

No one is going to pay 2,500 dollars for what is basically unusable test footage.

You could conceivably get both Derann release of star wars and jedi at a cheaper price.  For a bit more you could also get CHC empire as well,lol.

I read some rubbish review where this guy who i swear must be a tfn poster claims episode 1 was considered to be better than Jedi until the episode 1 bashing began.