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Weren't the effects done in 65mm?  How high did they scan for the BD.

Nope CLV and time compressed sorry to say.

Yeah its Analog only like the later 85 CAV, not even sure if its CX encoded.

I just find it weird they do it at all.  It would be like if Disney decided to put  star wars from 1977 on blu ray but then color timed it to match the original theatrical colors of empire strikes back.

Never heard JP theater DTS.  But was blown away by the laserdisc DTS demo back in the day. 

My theater had the basic Dolby setup not even sure it was 5.1 or plain stereo.

Guess i will get that version then.  Saw it there after i asked here. I don't know if it is the earlier version mentioned in this thread with the sync problems, one the see no evil   made or a 3rd version.

The  1982 rental VHS tape is the same inferior master as the 1985 CAV laserdisc.

But someone here has already done a masterful transfer of that tape.

Was not the Terminator before the new BD ever recolor timed?  I mean to match the second film.  Seems to be something they do these days as they did it with the Matrix and Lord of the Rings.

I think Wrath of Khan looks pretty close to the theatrical color timing i can only find on the first issue laserdisc before the BD.

But since they were working from the OCN which was badly faded or damaged its not perfect.

The DNR of Lowry though is intolerable but not as bad as say star trek III or IV.

I and VI were older transfers with the dnr already applied sadly.

Star Trek I and VI i feel are in need of a restoration.

Not that star trek I is particularly bad on blu ray the transfer was phenomenal but i feel it could have been better with the newest HD scanning tech.

I know Dark Jedi  did a release but has anyone since attempted making a transfer with better quality .

Not knocking the Dark Jedi version was good for its time.

Just wondering because the color timing at least as far as i can tell is different than the 1985 CAV.

More saturated and vivid less faded.

Would be Difficult to get a good transfer i understand since this is one of the worst rotters on the format.  I have 3 copies and only one is watchable.

Color Dailies exist. Many of which are the same scenes as in the lost cut. Not sure which footage is technically lost and they would have to use the black and white for those scenes.

Some of the color dailies have been seen but not all in the 2004 documentary, and some on the blu ray in the deleted scenes.

The 77, 1997 are lost cuts since no new transfer was made for DVD or blu ray.

Would kind of be weird for the John Jympson cut on Blu Ray when the actual real trilogy from 1977-1983 is only available from a 1993 laserdisc print.

And Disney has no plans to change Lucas revisionism/destruction of a cultural icon.

Can i also request Clear And Present Danger 1994.

It is not on the Laserdisc or the Blu ray.  They were dolby ac3.  Not the DTS.  Sadly that means no laserdisc source so much harder to find the cinema dts discs.

Was the Matrix 1999 BD audio Dolby True HD basically the DTS in that container or  is that also another track that is lost?

No the  "She is Beautiful" line in the detention block i believe is either in the Novelization or the Radio Drama.  Never was in the film.

Some dialogue in the shooting script was shot like "and you call yourselves humans"

I doubt they ever shot Harrison saying escaping this place will be like flying through the five fire rings of fornax or whatever he says in the book.

Don't like the closing/restructuring of Lucasfilm animation and LucasArts.  Seriously pissed about their being no OOT on blu ray.

Still until episode 7 surfaces its too early to say if Disney is now destroying Star Wars, like George Lucas did from 1994-2011.

They have handled Marvel and Pixar well.  But They wrecked Narnia and ruined both Tarzan and the Martian series by Edgar Rice Burroughs.

Hey, it's me. said:

Both. You can't differentiate between the two. Plus a decent script and and a director who knows how to tell a story. (Irwin Kershner springs to mind)

Kershner is dead though.  The screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan is very much alive and working as a consultant on the sequel trilogy.

George Lucas is also alive if they need to ask any questions about the universe.  Characters, background etc, as Kersh and Marquand were able to approach him for input.

How come Entertainment weekly is saying this is Dark horse's swan song for star wars comics, are they just guessing Disney is going shut them down soon, or jumping the gun?

Is this still available?

Would love to see the DVD footage married to the UK dub.

I like that they are past history and that i never have to see them again.

Terrible films, bad script writing, bad acting, bad directing, bad editing, bad cinematography.

One long cgi video game.

Terrible movies i mean there was only 1 film in the trilogy the others were videos.

Easytiger said:

In 1977 it was the story of a kid with hopes of adventure dashing off to save a princess with a sarcastic pilot and a furry alien. That can never be repeated. The sincerity, the naivety, the lack of pretension can never be repeated. 

It does not have to be.  Its now a billion dollar franchise to make money by selling to lowest common denominator like star trek 2009.

They will do this by selling happy meals, video games and action figures just like the star wars prequels.

They could have done it as a film way back when but it was way too much a ripoff of Hidden Fortress.

Kurosawa as a director was on an entirely different plain as a director than the hack Lucas was/ is.

Yeah but these 16mm tv prints for superman  were never meant to be seen theatrically.  They are the pan and scan tv cut in mono sound done on a filmchain system.

Higher quality scans would show the defects much more prominently and i don't think these guys are doing a frame by frame restore, if they are the sequels to man of steel will be out before its released.

There were two from star wars to jedi releases in Japan.  The first issue clearly an ancient analog master with analog audio only while the second one was done in the nineties and came from a digital master and had digital sound.

First release available separately, second only in a boxed set of the original trilogy.  I think the transfers the same as definitive collection only in CLV and not CAV.

The rarer Definitive box second issue with the mistakes corrected from first issue boxset had making of star wars, spfx and classic creatures in new digital transfers also available separately.  But they left off the Creative impulse book.

v-ger06 said:

Ok,i've put it online.

 

Could you re-post it.  The page is gone.  Been deleted for unknown reasons.

What ever happened to the X-9 project star wars and empire never seemed to get released except on newsgroups.

Even the Tecnidisc is a dead torrent, and probably only available now on one of those newsgroup things.

Anyway good luck with your version.  I hope you don't have the same issues that Dark Jedi or Arnie had but they probably are inevitable due to the source.

Was Buck Rogers in the 25th Century in Sensurround as well?

I am hoping when Criterion releases The Hidden Fortress if they ever do in full tohoscope on blu ray it will have the original 3 channel mono.

imperialscum said:

I think 1997 ending was perfect.

I just can't describe the disappointment I felt when I first saw that Shaw was replaced by Hayden. It is hands down, by far the worst change Lucas ever made. Hell, I would go as far to say that it is the worst thing Lucas did in his entire career.

Worse than The Star Wars Holiday special?

Worse than Jar Jar Binks or Howard the Duck.  Worse than Indiana Jones riding through the air for 5 miles in a nuked fridge. Worse than Hayden Christensen's atrocious bad acting as Skywalker/Vader?