skyjedi2005

JJ is not keeping Lucas out of the loop.

And he did not have Gene Roddenberry to consult on the 2009 movie as he has pointed out.

Problem is how much time can he devote to star wars, with a third Trek feature and a fifth mission impossible i don't think he is going to be the New Lucas , he is going to be a director for one picture and that is it.

It is obvious however that episode VII is the most important because its a vehicle of revival for the franchise only if it makes a mountain of money.

They are betting big on JJ. That or the  marketing of toys and whatever else.

Yeah the classic home cinema is a dupe of a German release print with damage i believe.  But they redid the audio as English and the opening crawl was spliced on from an English print.

Some films are saved in the editing and by their musical score.

I kind of think of this film that was released in 1977 that was a disaster up until its release.

That had a Hokey script,  and a studio that thought it was going to lose a lot of money.

doubleofive said:

Rented Star Trek: The Game this weekend, been playing it through with Mrs. O'Five. It is not as terrible as all of the reviews lead you to believe. It's not perfect, but it's worth a rental. Sure it rips off other games' mechanics, but it does it decently (except for the shooting the Enterprise phasers). The voice acting is good, though the character animations need help.

We haven't beaten it yet, but there are some plot elements I can go into later if you want to hear about them.

Saw the trailer for the game and gave it a pass because it has reapers in it like Mass Effect.

Its Trek Effect much like 2009 Star trek was Trek Wars.

The X-0 project or that vapor ware project simply became unnecessary after the 2006 Gout was released.

The greatest vapor ware fan film is the unreleased installment of Return of Pink Five.

Killing Kirk has already been done and poorly in a movie called generations.

I hope these rumors are false, if true just how badly will JJ ruin star wars VII.

What can they do that would be really shocking?

I have only seen the trailers.

But i mean in the other movies they Killed Spock and Blew up the Enterprise.

Then there is that really bad movie where Rick Berman convinced Shatner to kill Kirk.  Not much of a spoiler, from the beginning they were going kill kirk  but the way they killed him off was stupid.

I choose to view Generations not as Canon as almost no one from the original film series was involved.  It really should have been a next generation film from the outset as it succeeds as neither an old cast film or next generation film. Worst piece of crap Branan Braga made before these are the voyages.

Been wanting to see the original in good quality for a while.  The directors cut was an abomination my biggest beef with that beyond the CGI its not Walter Murch's mix.

The original Mixes on American Graffiti and THX 1138 were impressive. 

I don't have the Graffiti BD so cannot comment on whether it has the original mix or not.  I figured it would have some new fangled 5.1 monstrosity.

Looks like a solid summer action spectacle whether it translates into a Star Trek film is another matter, and i don't mean in name only.

I would like to see this New series grow its own legs though, rather than rehashing the old movies or tv shows.  The last movie had way too many nods to the old movies for my taste and should have been a total reboot.

If its not my dads star trek then why is was Leonard Nimoy in it? I mean Trek 2009.  Why the nods to scenes from star trek 1-6, or even the loathed and much hated generations that killed Kirk.

I don't totally love or totally hate the 2009 film and i understand why it was made the way it was made from a production point of view.

But they could have taken a lot more risk and updated the thing rather than basically giving us old hat trek in a new and more faster paced, sexier veneer.

TServo2049 said:

skyjedi2005 said:

The rarer Definitive box second issue with the mistakes corrected from first issue boxset had making of star wars, spfx and classic creatures in new digital transfers also available separately.  But they left off the Creative impulse book.

Did that version of Making of Star Wars have the original William Conrad narration, or did it have the updated Don LaFontaine narration that was on the 1995 mail-away VHS?

 

No the 1995 version seems to be an oddity all other versions i have seen have the original British accent narrator.  Why they decided to use the guy who sounds like Sergeant Friday from Dragnet is beyond my limited understanding of such things.

althor1138 said:

I captured my '82 P&S Laserdisc last night. There is a problem with side 1.  There is noise in the audio and the video is a little bit noisy as well.  Side 2 seems pretty much ok.  I can encode this and release it if anybody is interested.  I'm not going to spend the time IVTC'ing this because as Mallwalker said it is quite maddening. I've managed to get rid of the interlacing at least with the tfm filter. With that being said, I found it quite watchable as long as you don't mind the noisy audio. 

Standard Def 480P or Upscaled to 720P like your Japan Special collection set?

captainsolo said:

The DKR 15/70 IMAX audio was some of the worst I've heard in a long while. Horridly loud in the first reel, and then far too quiet throughout in the dialogue scenes. It felt terribly dull to be honest.It may have bneen the IMAX theater though, many reported similar experiences with TDKR.

 

The Regular DLP was the same with not as good fidelity as the imax.

Its a hot mix.  Its a sin of many modern film mixes overly loud, dialog too quiet  almost unintelligible in some scenes.

I still prefer this over the mix being brickwalled  though, and normalizing it so everything is at the same level volume wise.

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

All three Nolan Films were released in DTS.  I wish the first 2 got DTS-HD MA audio on the blu rays only the third film is up to snuff.  The first film Begins is one of the worst transfers on BD needs an update.

I mean even if any one has the Batman Begins discs they would be no way to get the audio off of them kind of like Revenge of the Sith.

I mean the Cinema Discs not the Blu rays that is easily done.

I also concur that the 35mm scans look remarkably like the BD, with the teal shift being slightly revisionist however.

Celluloid and digital video  color space are totally different things though, so was the BD an attempt with modern digital technology to try and mimic the  original Eastman color release print?

Hard to say did they use the IP as reference. How faded were the obviously not first gen sources.

Same problem James Bond and Star Wars had go back to the OCN and lose the intended color timing, get an image too pristine and never intended for the theatrical movie going experience of the era.

dvdmike said:

My bad, thought you were talking about the wowow.

Weird he thought Doom, and Crusade were ok tho

There is that or that Lucasfilm or Paramount did not want to spend the money on extensive restorations of the prequel and first sequel.

When it cost them nothing to use an already available HD transfer.

Seriously if it was up to GL we probably would have gotten the dodgy Lowry masters on BD.

I've seen their HD version of Raiders you think the BD is degrained you have not seen the lowry level of degrain destruction.

dvdmike said:

Lowry did not do the Wowow version

Never claimed they did responding to the comment on the DVD colors.

I too would like the option of having the WOWWOW version on BD, but Spielberg wanted what is on there.

If the audio was not on the BD i would suggest getting it off of the last issued version of the movie on laserdisc from Japan.  But seeing as the audio was included on the blu ray the cost of importing a rare and expensive laserdisc is rather silly.

jero32 said:

djchaseb said:

I prefer the more yellow / gold tint that the Blu has as opposed to the other versions.  Regardless of what's correct, just looks good to my eyes.

Dvd seems much too cold in a lot of places, everything seems slightly blue. Which is odd considering most of the movie is in a desert.

Blue shift is a Lowry trademark of sorts.  Its on Star Wars, James Bond, Indiana Jones, Star Trek.

I  agree the DVNR on Raiders is crap.  Was it like that in the Imax version? I saw crystal skull in the theater and the print i saw was sharper than the BD.  They used DVNR on the BD.

Why pay for a 4k restore of the negative of ROTLA only to ruin it by using digital degraining software. 

The BD of Last Crusade is faithful to the theatrical. The original was soft looking but they had to use dvnr and edge enhancement.   It boggles the mind. Other than the optical sequences it was never grain heavy, DVNR is not needed or wanted.

Quoting the quote from Zombie's sig.

"When George went back and put new creatures into the original Star Wars, I find that disturbing. It’s a revision of history. That bothers me."

--James Cameron, Entertainment Weekly, April 2010

I find it funny Cameron is behind revisionist colorings of his films and silently removing stuff via computers in earlier  films, but was harsh on Lucas for star wars changes.

The Wow segment on the DVD is anamorphic, the source footage was from the laserdisc however so they just upscaled it or something.

As i recall reading here on these boards.

No one preserved the video it would have had Japanese subtitles stepping all over the picture but as a sync guide i guess it would have some use.

dvdmike said:

skyjedi2005 said:

I thought it was pretty much a given the Best BD so far was the Japanese release.  Over the US Skynet.

The Super Expensive blu ray Dark Jedi owns.

It resolves the grain slightly better than the UK disc, but there is not much in it. Not for the price and 100%not with that master. But compared to the skynet I would take my Japanese laserdisc.

Is it the Anamorphic Squeeze Disc , i always wondered what that looked like the japan LD. 

I thought it was pretty much a given the Best BD so far was the Japanese release.  Over the US Skynet.

The Super Expensive blu ray Dark Jedi owns.