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#319224
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Help Wanted: SLIPSTREAM image request - AND WIDESCREEN preservation request (Sky Movies subscribers see posts 4 onwards)...
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too bad no one is offering the japan laserdisc rip for free. there is a guy selling them at his site, bootlegs for sale is a no no especially here on these forums.

I refuse to pay money for something that should be shared with fans for free, or with just blanks and postage costs.

People who sell these preservations are the ones who will eventually get people in trouble who do it for love and make no profit.

supposedly this film was shot 2:35:1 anamorphic and even had a 70mm release with six track sound.

all you get on the dvd is a vhs quality fullscreen rip with a tame dolby 2.0.

the uk release has better cover art very much like the laserdisc cover, you can find it on amazons uk site but not in high res.

I like this movie i have it on vhs, Mark Hamill is awesome in this movie.

I also have the time runner vhs and wonder why there is no dvd.
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#319188
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Info Wanted: Is the RAIDERS soundtrack CD OOP?
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supposedly the same company responsible for the crystal skull score is going to re-release the original scores for the first 3 films.

Whether they will be single disc re-issues or complete scores is another matter altogether.

I have the dcc classics Raiders release and it is missing a lot of unreleased material. the well of the souls complete not the edit as found on the cd was exclusive to the dcc 2 LP set of Raiders.

There was even a limited edition 24 karat gold version of the dcc classics release of raiders. I was only able to find the regular release in stores way back in 1996, the date on the back of the cd is 1995. I guess that would be long oop.

it says on the back "mastered for compact disc by Steve Hoffman from the original two-track stereo master tapes' and also says it includes 1/2 hour of previously unreleased material, has a 24 page booklet with new composer interview, liner notes and photos and sketches.
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#319182
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319182/action/topic#319182
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I never even bothered watching Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes. why butcher a classic?

the movies end is even more pathetic when you realise the ape lincoln idea was allegedly stolen from kevin smith, there was a lawsuit over this.

Even more Laughable the casting Marky Mark replacing Charleton Heston.

That there was a script for another classic apes movie and they went with this crap is beyond stupid.

I remember looking forward to that version when it was announced in sci fi universe magazine in 1994 premiere issue.

As for Attack of the Clones as if the title was not supposed to warn you this was a cheasy homage to the 1930's and 1940's universal serials starring buster crabbe as both flash gordon and buck rogers.

I am probably more guilty of this than most fans, but don't you think we are expecting far too much in indiana jones and star wars as they are saturday matinee serial fare that you are supposed to eat your candy and popcorn while watching. Lucas was dubbed the king of twerp cinema by Peter Biskind and it pretty much holds up.

Star Wars and Indiana Jones were never made to be marketed to 30 year or 40 something adults who want more adult fare.

If you want drama and all that go watch the godfather or taxi driver, lol. not star wars.
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#319177
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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film yields far more resolution than even current high definition video.

It might be analog but many things that are analog are actually better than digital.

Also film is archival digitally stored video is not.

I'm surprised nobody is shocked that the prequels and special editions being stored in this way is utterly foolish unless George Had them bounce the digital video back to film for archival purposes.


as for cgi if it matches the original physical effects which was not done for the special editions i am all for it. Daren Docterman is an excellent example, the work he did on the directors cut of star trek the motion picture was done as to match the original effects.

I think the prequels should have been made as to match the oot, the effects were to modern and flashy. since the timeline of the prequels predate the 1977 star wars the effects should have shown that.


I agree that cgi takes a lot of finessing to make it look real, for example gollum in lord of the rings feels less fake than jar jar, even though they are both cgi rendered. too bad Peter Jackson succeded in making him rediculously annoying almost as bad as jar jar. He is more a sympathetic character in the books.

In those films i love the old school models and location shooting, but they went way overboard with the cgi as if they were trying to outdo George Lucas.
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#318801
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18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318801/action/topic#318801
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cld-d703 i read is exactly the same as the elite quality wise except it does not have an ac3-rf out unless yours is moded.


It is a combi player right?



cld-d704 had rf-out.

mine is very old and i only paid 60 dollars for it. it is a pioneer cld-v2800 industrial unit it does not have any comb filters does have digital sound but no rf-output, you have to flip discs manually and it does not have still mode on clv discs.

I don't have an HD tv or an expensive surround setup, just a standard def tv with stereo audio output. so i'm probably not equipped to be the best reviewer of things.

That being said the GOUT looks like shit even on a 4:3 tv set that is properly set up.

We are and were willing to forgive the limitations of the laserdisc format because that was pretty much built in an a given that the dc would look like that. There is absolutely no excuse for such on dvd however. releasing something only as a shoddy bonus disc and saying "theatrical versions" does not make them so.

The anamorphic prints in 35mm, on the big screen were better looking than these dvds.

I only ever saw the original Return of the Jedi in the Theaters and that was the 1985

Re-Release even then i can tell you how good it looked instead of the gout dvd version.

I had been looking forward to the restoration of the originals as rumored because i never saw star wars a new hope or empire in theaters. Low and Behold 1997 dawned and it was not the old ones being restored but added not necessary changed in cgi. I hated that Greedo shot first. I was kinda meh on the Jabba scene you could take it or leave it but it certianly did not ruin the entire movie for me.

I hated the dialogue changes and sound changes that i thought were not necessary like the colt 45 sound in star wars instead of the laser, or lukes line in empire being changed to "you were lucky to get out of there" a different take than "your lucky you don't taste very good" which is more funny and fits the scene better.

i had just better pretend the 2004 versions never happened. They changed boba fetts voice and replaced clive revill as the emperor., and had hayden and jar jar in rotj, very lame indeed.
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#318797
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318797/action/topic#318797
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guys thanks for correcting me.

I don't work in the industry and only know what the media and magazines report, unfortunetely.

I just assumed i guess that the big colleges all used cgi, and trained a lot of students to make videogames on the same computers the teach animation and film editing on.

So are you telling me i could drop by usc for instance and they would still have rows of movieolas or kem tables?
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#318779
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318779/action/topic#318779
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what i meant was all the college kids who will eventually make their way into the industry shoot on video not film and cut on a computer, most likely a mac.

You can't deny that eventually all the old and grey cinematographers will retire.

Plus the u.s. according to mr lucas is singular in not adopting dlp and digitally shot HD video as the mainstream. He claims in an interview someplace that Europe already has, making remarks about france always being the center of avant garde and so on.

Accordingly the magazine american cinematographer's focus has been on all things digital at least for more than a decade.

Even cinefex focus is on films shot mostly on hidef video or cgi.

You see i am one of those people who like the old art form of cinematography and effects on film. as well as hand drawn cel animation. the thing is these things pretty much met their death knell in the mid 90's.

Even most of tv is now shot on digital videotape and not film. Shows like Sg-1 and Galactica for Example.
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#318772
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318772/action/topic#318772
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There are a lot of scenes in this film that are homages. The hotrod scene for instance is a American Graffiti one, others are like aliens homages to e.t. and close encounters.

Tarzan because Edgar Rice Burroughs tale inspired elements of both star wars and Indiana Jones.

If your gonna get mad at a director for bad ripoff scenes or homages to other films you must hate the film transformers and Michael Bay. that movie references so many other movies you lose count, it is actually silly.


As for all the fake cgi George Dismantled and sold off the old physical effects unit.

Plus many coming out of university and trained in the field of special effects these days are all digital trained and not traditionally trained.

Many of the old ilm'ers arre either retired or work exclusively with computers sadly.

To do a big film like any of the original star wars trilogy films or indiana jones films would be almost impossible. their are nobody trained to do traditional matte painting on glass, cinematography on film, or model builders anymore. ALL the universitys teach cgi and green screen since that is where hollwood went in terms of filmaking.

Sure Lucas could have rehired all the old team who did those films but cgi is more cost effective.

You don't have to fly away to expensive location or pay extras just make it all in the computer.


If you compare the two different ilm special effects books. one is exclusively traditional effects which a few early computer graphics like star trek II genesis effect or star wars trench run. Then you get to the second published book by Mark Cotta Vaz which is called into the digital realm and its focus is exclusively cgi.

The first book is a beatiful work of art, the second book is complete garbage unless you like fake cgi. which needs to be updated every couple of years versus traditional effects from more than twenty years ago that hold up well and do not draw attention to themselves, they only enhance the story.

They don't take you out of the movie by loudly shouting "HEY LOOK AT ME I"M A SPECIAL EFFECT!!"

in george's own words "a special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing" - From Star Wars to Jedi

Turns out the prequels were a special effect without a story, LOL. which proves the man changed from then to now.

I have no problem with them using cgi for what traditional techniques cannot accomplish. In terms of enhancing a story and blending the digital with the traditional so it is seamless.

As for the Indiana Jones films starting out with Indy on an unrelated adventure not relevent to the plot, as used in raiders and temple of doom was lifted from the bond movies.
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#318692
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18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318692/action/topic#318692
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http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/161/TKLO-50180/Ghibli-Ga-Ippai-Collection-(1996)

http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/video/ghibli/ippai.html#ld_box

http://www.ex.org/1.5/24-ghibli.html

no one as far as i know has done any screen grabs or even posted the laserdisc cover art which is all gatefold and superb.

D2 masters were used.

as for the quality difference between the gout and the japan special collection and 1997 special edition, is mostly in the sound department. the japan pressings have awesome digital audio, and the 97 set features ac3 5.1.

unlike the us first issue releases in widescreen the special collection is in CAV format not CLV, it is free of the dvnr that plagues the THX laserdisc pressings.

Again before the advent of better hi def audio aka in HD-DVD and Blu Ray which can contain uncompressed PCM. dvd could only one up laserdisc in terms of picture quality while laserdisc always had a more robust audio performance.

The one time dvd tried to come close was in the superbit dvd era when they were releasing dts tracks in full bitrate.

The very early preference of laserdisc over dvd was in dvd's early days when mpeg2 artifacting was very bad on a lot of improperly mastered releases. Indeed most of the releases were simply the same d1 or d2 masters used for laserdisc mastering and were single layer.

It gets even stranger when you consider that some Laserdiscs have the proper screen ratio for the movies they have while the dvd's do not, and some Laserdiscs have incorrect ratios and the dvd releases corrected that.

I know of certain cases in the release of James Bond vs DVD for instance where this occured.

Sometimes even letterboxing titles cropped the image on certain titles on laserdisc loosing parts of the top or bottom or even side frames.

As for what Hi Vision was i believe it was a japan mastering system considered to be an early form of HD, it was a widescreen tv set i believe as well.

Its ironic that there is an ad on youtube where george lucas advertises it for the japanese.

I not sure but i guess some who owned the muse players in japan like the X-0 or X-9 must have also owned a hi vision set at one point.

By the way did i point out how extremely envious i am of anyone who can afford the thousands of dollar machines like the X0 Player.

IT is funny since i cannot even find an elite pioneer player for a decent price.

A lot of people must still either own or transfer laserdisc to dvd. Watching ebay auctions daily on vhs and laserdisc titles still selling like they are means the formats are far from obsolete as long as the have titles not on Blu Ray or DVD.

The biggest difference between the 1997 and 2004 special edition restorations is that the 1997 was mostly done by hand and mechanical processes as well as photo chemical not done all on a computer like Lowry.

YCM laboratories did the image restoration, YCM of course being a reference to the yellow, cyan, and magenta seperation masters used in film.

As to why their restorations turned vaders saber pink is beyond my limited understanding.

Lowry Just Scanned the supplied altered film nagative into their computers at 4k resolution, they did not do any of the new color correction or timing that was done by ILM and supervised by LUCAS.

How the picture looked before it was tampered with to make the colors try to match the digital coloring of the prequels we will probably never know.
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#318690
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EU books: Thats it..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318690/action/topic#318690
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i officially boycotted the EU novels as soon as they killed off Mara Jade, being a fan of the Zahn trilogy that enraged me to no end.

The one non Lucas created character i really loved.

It seems to me Lucas was probably Jealous that Zahn created a character just as good as the originals, as well as recued the franchise so he had her killed off.

The same way he had anakin solo killed because he thought having 2 anakin's in star wars was confusing.

Lucas could never admit that Zahn is a better writer than him, just like he cannot admit Empire director kershner made a better star wars movie than him.

Killing off Anakin Solo made zero sense since it made chewies sacrifice in saving him in vain.

The same way ruining the creation of the characterizations of Tenel KA and Jacen from the young jedi knights series by Kevin J. Anderson and his wife Rebecca Moesta, ill never ever forgive them for that.

The Legacy series turned out as a nothing but a retread of the very bad prequels we did not need to read or see twice. Whiny Anakin Turns to the darkside, whiny Jacen Solo turns to the darkside. LOL not a co-incidance people.

Any Eu material inspired by the prequels i hold as suspect and will veto from my collective memory as well as not be in my bookshelf.

Am i the only one who looks back at the Old Judy Lynn Del Rey Star Wars era, and the bantam era as the golden age of the expanded universe fiction?

The Era all the way up to 1996 shadows of the empire novelization, fast forward to 1999 and the year of the prequel phantom menace and njo start in vector prime a year like 1997 which will live in infamy.

And to all those Kevin Anderson haters lucas stole all his ideas from his Knights of the Old republic and sith war comics. namely darth mauls double bladed lightstsaber and the sith backstory.

Lucas also stole Coruscant from Zahn, funny since lucas says the Eu tales are fan fiction and his are the real deal.
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#318688
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70mm screening
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the fact that only a few collectors and film collections have these is heartbreaking.

That all we have is the non anamorphic 2006 gout home video release vs memories of its original theatrical exhibition in 35mm and 70mm showcase theaters.

i'm suprised the guy did not face legal action from lucas for screening a non special edition version for a few friends.

indeed he has done everything he could do to keep them out of the hands of private collectors including recalling all original theatrical prints and having them destroyed.

He could not get his hands on the library of Congress copies. Afi copies or bfi copies though. That and the fact that a few unnamed collectors possess original versions leaves some hope.

I think the original I.P.'s as well as the dailies and selected takes still exist on reels in lucas cold storage vault. as well as the dye transfer print of 1977 star wars.

We do know he cut up and altered the original physical negative to make the special edition. this seems to me actually a almost criminal outrage, that the original footage cut ended up in trim bins and destroyed is beyond words.

one of the reasons i have not gone and have boycotted the star wars celebrations is because they don't even show versions of the original films. We know lucas has prints in his vaults someplace, he would not have been crazy enough to have them destroyed as well.
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#318685
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318685/action/topic#318685
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The funny thing is Crystal Skull is the best of the summer blockbusters simply because it is Indiana Jones and stars Harrison Ford. it may be garbage in comparison to the originals, but is still worlds better than the hulk, iron man or any other hollywood dreck.

As for how it matches up against say the dark knight that is another story, still batman was not one of the movie heroes of my youth since the first film came out in 1989. Indiana Jones was, as well as the real star wars heroes of the oot. not hayden and co.

And Despite how i like Tim Burtons take on Batman i find it esoteric and bizarre, like a bad circus act. Maybe that is how he saw it because he was jaded and could not take heroes seriously and at face value. Batman Begins was the best i think because Batman Year One is simply the best characterization i have ever read of him in the comics.

While we are on the subject of Harrison Ford despite what the critics say his last good movie was K-19 the widowmaker. i cannot believe ford and neeson were not nominated for awards for that.

Sure in terms of Box office ford's last hit was Airforce One. Which was okay but no way near as good as Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger.

Hollywood Homicide was Mildy humorous and fun for maybe one viewing, despite the really bad rap murder plot.

Firewall was ok but a really lame excuse for a movie for Harrison Ford one of hollywoods best actors.

Random Hearts and what Lies Beneath , and Sabrina are also awful films.

What happened to good films like Witness, Presumed Innocent, The Fugitive, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger. Serious acting roles. Not Saturday Matinee Serial fare.

Ford had lots of good films for nearly two decades and started making shit films.
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#318684
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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i had looked forward to Crystal Skull when i heard it was going to be shot on location with traditional effects and choreography to the fights.

instead it is full of lucasian fake cgi imagery the movie is littered with it, lame.

He ruined star wars now he sees fit to ruin Indiana Jones.

if most of the movie is fake and shot on greenscreen why spielberg shot it on film and cut it on a kem editing machine are beyond me.

they even cheaped out on not going for a full orchestra like the LSO for the score.

now all we can do is hope someone like goodmusician can cobble together the full score williams actually wrote for the film, that depends of course on what has been released.

unlike the original indiana jones trilogy there are no re-recordings to cull bits and pieces and parts of the score not on the true soundtrack release.

Plus i agree with 20th Century Mark, War of the Worlds was complete and utter garbage.

The modern Spielbergs don't come close to the oldies, although i did like the critical miss a.i., and Minority Report but that is because i am a fan of Phillip K Dick, and Brian Aldiss as well as Stanley Kubrick.

I would say Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Close Encounters, and E.T. are classics even Spielberg would be hard put to surpass in the modern era it simply cannot be done.
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#318120
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Force Unleashed Vader's Apprentice Gets a Name (spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318120/action/topic#318120
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It is Starkiller, it has been official announced.

I have to say this is extremely lame since kotor already used the name bendak starkiller.

Seems to be turning either into a pretty common last name or name even if the characters are not related.

Again Lucas screws with EU continuity, but who cares about that the continuity of the oot and the prequels continuity has also been changed in force unleashed and the new clone wars movie on a whim.

It is funny that force unleashed is in the george lucas canon since he worked on the story and it is official in between episode III and IV, but Kotor is not G Canon and Lucas does not care whether it exists or not.

Kotor was better than the prequels story wise, and will still be closer to the oot than the force unleashed.
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#318064
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318064/action/topic#318064
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the biggest letdown on Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of The Crystal SKull for me is that, the London Symphony Orchestra is not doing the score.

Hollywood Studio Orchestra is, lame.

What they could not go to abbey road studios in london?

another gripe i have kenneth wannberg is not involved.


Raiders is the best score because it was by the lso. Last Crusade was done with a studio orchestra and no way a bad score but something was lacking.

Well at least its williams and not Joel Mcneely who scored young indy.

I often find it funny that the boston pops scored temple of doom. they are a great orchestra and probably one of the five best in the u.s.a. but cannot come close to the LSO.

again Last Crusade was performed by the warner bros studio orchestra and released on wb records.

each score is done by a different orchestra, the only continuity between the first three was ken wannberg and John Williams. for the fourth just williams. and some no name dude i read about online.
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#318025
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318025/action/topic#318025
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To be fair to George he never really could have met expectations for The Phantom Menace. Since its really his own fault for teasing fans for over a 20 year waiting period.

Still i don't blame him for not jumping right back into star wars after return of the jedi since star wars became painfully identified with his divorce, since Marcia and He split when jedi was in post production.

next followed Temple of Doom, was it any wonder this was a darker film both lucas and spielbergs marriages came apart at the seams.

the only good thing about Temple of doom was Spielberg met Kate Capshaw, the current mrs spielberg.

Lucas has yet to be remarry, but he is reportedly humbled by the fact that he raised three adopted children alone and they keep him grounded.

So George lost his way with the prequels it does not in any way mean he cannot make another good movie. as with any profession practice is everything, not directing in twenty years put one on shaky ground.

As been reported he moderately improved on Revenge of the Sith, he dedicated ten years of his lifeblood to the prequels and he says he enjoyed making them.

Star Wars 77 nearly killed him. it is no wonder why he prefers to do most things in post by computer it cuts down on the work that he the director has to do and removes stress from the situation.

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#318021
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18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318021/action/topic#318021
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plus the pre thx laserdiscs are free from all the dvnr bullshit that happened to the 1993-1995 THX releases.

too bad the pre 1995 jedi is misframed.

oh well, i still have pretty perfect copies of star wars and empire strikes back.

perfect in terms of being letterboxed and only good on 4:3 20th century tv sets, lol.

plus on laserdisc you have every flavor of sound mixes for the films but the 70mm and
mono mixes. for star wars on laserdisc you get the 35mm stereo dolby surround mix analog only, the 1985 digital remix, the 1993 THX restoration, the 1997 restoration.

the 2004 cut being the only one never released on laserdisc.

heck even the phantom menace got a japan only laserdisc release. it had a phenomonal dolby digital 5.1 ex soundtrack if you had the expensive equipment to reproduce it. you needed an rf out and a ac3 demodulator which i don't have.

the theatrical dts mixes for the special edition from 1997 were never released.

i have read that some of those presentations were in 70mm 6 channel dts sound.

Jay mentioned the akira on criterion. which features the original streamline dub in glorious PCM. noticeably absent from the pioneer dvd release. The colors on the laserdisc transfer are also faded a bit but closer to the original theatrical release, digital recoloring be damned.

the real gem and beauty of my collection is the studio ghibli gai ippai boxset.

it may be on laserdisc but it still features Hi Vision remasters, nausicaa of the valley of the wind has the best laserdisc transfer i have ever seen, limited by the fact that it is letterboxed and interlaced.

I aLso have the japan star wars definitive collection which is rot free unlike its american counterpart. which oddly has a darker transfer.

I have the japan special collection trilogy as well but never watch them since they have burned in japanese subtitles and the picture is shifted to the top of the screen.

the picture on them are very faded and look like from very old film print. still i am told they are closer to the original release in color definition.
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#318018
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318018/action/topic#318018
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spielberg already mention a sequel indiana jones trilogy starring shia lebouf on entertainment tonight around the start of principal photography on crystal skull.


He said he enjoyed working on transformers so much and the new indy with lebouf he would love to do it.

that does not mean it is set in stone but it is a direct possibility.

I think the new Indy is going to have to be as least as good as last crusade to get my thumbs up approval. lets face it nothing can ever touch raiders. it is the perfect action movie for that time, and every director who tried to copy its success failed even spielberg.

The Tv and Theatrical trailers look very good and harrison looks in top form, so this movie by all accounts should rock the socks off of indiana jones fans.

still the trailers for phantom menace were good as well and the final movie was a letdown.

I am going to an advance screening of indy 4 in boston on the 19th, i hope it is good. i'll give it a very harsh review online if it sucks.

the prequels did not have to be so lukewarm, no pun intended.

If the scripts and dialogue had been given additional work by an actual talented screenwriter, and the movies cut back on the cgi and had tighter editing.

i mean the themes are not to be completely disparaged only the means in which they were conveyed.

the new star wars trilogy more fits a greek tradgedy than it does a campbellian heroes journey. It is a lot like Oedipus Rex and Milton's Paradise Lost and Faust, except delivered with comic book visuals, eye candy and inane dialogue. It is almost like a childish version of the myths he was trying to follow.

In fact revenge of the sith is exactly like oedipus trying to avert his fate and causes it to happen, as anakin kills padme by trying to deny fate.

Star wars from the begining was dumbed down sugar coated and made more childish for the masses to get a bigger audience.

The original 300 page script had sex, violence and political activism as well as the flash gordon and burroughs and kurosawa elements.


As for Indiana Jones IV i thought speilberg and lucas initially said it was going to be low budget and shot like the old ones on location.

a 170 million dollar movie, is that the price of 19 years of inflation or is that the cost of the cgi. Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford don't even make a dime until it grosses over 400 million dollars so paramount can recover its costs.

Lucas original quote on special effects is genius " a special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. people tend to confuse them as an end to themselves. a special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing" - from star wars to jedi the making of a saga

are the prequels a special effect without a story? or our we oot fans so jaded we would not even notice one if it was there.

i think the fans would give the prequels and the special editions their own place in the star wars family if only george did not treat the originals like crap.

Back in 1997 i went to see the special editions trilogy and embraced them as an extension of the originals not a replacement. i hated the greedo shooting first thing but could live with it since the special edition was an alternate take on the films.

Little did i know as most fans that embracing the special editions was to giving lucas the opportunity to bury the originals.

had i known that then i would have boycotted the movies and the following prequel films until a restoration got underway to be able to show the originals in cinema again or on a future dvd release.
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#317856
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317856/action/topic#317856
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The info i found online states it is simply a cheaper repacking of the previous two disc release.

This coming from htf, cannot find the links, and amazon.com reviews.

So the superbit is out of print and has not been re-issued in this set. supposedly this set also lacks the dts sound.

The rumored new transfer for blu ray will probably just go straight to blu and not stop on standard dvd along the way. I cannot find any info if the blu ray transfer is supervised by harris or not.

Reading reviews of the earlier dvd releases it appears the dvd's are not as good as the restored 70mm prints that were shown in theaters. Additionally one reviewer on amazon states the U.S. dvd releases have digital grain removal added to them not on the european dvd release and not authorised by robert harris.

That really has to suck to get a proper release you have to deal with pal speedup to get Robert Harris transfer untouched.

unless pal is considered the proper way to watch a david lean film since he was european.

kind of how some purists say the same about kubrick films.


not every film is supposed to be entirely clean and new looking some films are shot to look that way stylistically like american graffiti and thx 1138 being shot on 16mm film because the anamorphic process was cheaper to reproduce as well as gave the films a more documentary style feel. THX 1138 was shot on super 16 according to lucas in an interview with lawrence sturhann.


the theatrical cuts of such films do not exist on dvd however or unaltered.

can you believe G.L. actually wrecked american graffiti and thx by adding cgi to them?

only being able to enjoy theatrical cuts of films in 4:3 letterbox on laserdisc that is George's legacy, and the bonus disc on 2006 is the same as the 1993 definitive collection. the only difference i noticed between my laserdisc and dvd is apparent false sharpening being applied to the picture, because dvnr was used to conceal dirt and scratches and removed fine detail.

Not exaxtly being definitive even then. i have a laserscan magazine where the reviewer bashes the picture by saying it looks scratched and washed out as well as overly dvnr, only positive review was on the remastered sound even the supplements got poor reviews, the guy claimed the trailers did not look remastered and as though they were recorded off a tv screen with a camera bootleg style.

Since star wars was shot on anamorphic lenses with a very wide negative vistavision i hardly count the 2006 release close to the original theatrical presentations. unless 4:3 letterbox video is to be compared to 35mm film that 2k dlp cannot even rival as yet.

which brings me to the south park free hat episode as commentary on walkie talkies in e.t. and greedo shooting first, wtf? have George and steven lost their frickin minds?

i'm still pissed the theatrical version of close encounters is only included in the expensive box set, kind of like when e.t. was released. sure later on speilberg changed his mind or saw dollar signs and alllowed it to be released separtely after the sixty dollar box set.

i think the original cut of e.t. might even be anamorphic on dvd, but it sure as hell is not remastered.

it is pretty goddamn bizarre that it is left up to fans to cobble together a restored theatrical release by using both dvd's as sources.

Believe it or not special editions of the original indiana jones trilogy were actually considered, i shudder to think what kind of phony cgi fakery might have been added to ruin the movies.

"I DID restore the trilogy, it costs millions of dollars and came out on DVD in 2004"
butcher maybe, restore no.

sure bottom bin pornos can be restored and remastered but not the most influential film series in hollywood history that changed the ways films were made and marketed.