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#320213
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The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
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There is another upcoming re release of cindarella being released on blu ray not sure which version it is going to be.

The blu ray official site does not say , i'm thinking maybe Lowry aka dts digital.

I wish we could ever see the theatrical first issue of fantasia never released on home video anywhere completely uncut not even in japan.

Molly most animated features are open matte there is more image on the negative even more image area in the hand drawn cels than a 4:3 cropping. Depends on what you find more grievous a 16:9 or 4:3 cropping.

Then can present the entire image by pillarboxing but the one dvd i know they did this on produced less than stellar results Transformers the movie reconstructed. Even rhinos image close to the original negative more cropped than the aforementioned release had unfinished animation showing in the picture because when the movie was shown widescreen in theaters these areas were masked off by the mattes.

Has disney ever had such releases?

As a purist i think both versions the original negative open matte and theatrical widescreen should be available on dvd. This was done on the batman mask of the phantasm dvd release.

It also reminds me of how funimation released a open matte full frame show like Dragonball Z cropped to 16:9 with dodgy colors, why cannot they seem to get it right.

Disney is almost notoriously as bad as George Lucas with the changed dvd versions of their films and the majority of the theatrical releases only being available on an analogue only format like laserdisc is absurd to an insane degree beyond words.

What i find damn near impossible is to find all the open matte versions of the studio ghibli films released on vhs or dvd worldwide is getting very difficult.


I think howl's moving castle may be the only movie of miyazaki's only available matted in wisdescreen and no pan and scan or open matte release.

The only full frame release of nausicaa was the badly butchered warriors of the wind.

My brothers fiance has nearly all the animated disney movies on dvd and i was discussing with her one day how stupid i thought that the best way to own these original theatrical versions of the movies was on the deluxe CAV boxsets, from an obsolete analogue format that is interlaced. Kind of how the gout does little justice in approximating the theatrical cuts of star wars from the theaters to a low resolution home video release.

DVD, and Blu Ray don't come even close to the 35mm film most of the disney movies were released on. People rich enough to have a home theater buy prints off of ebay all the time, though the low fade prints fetch sums reaching the stratosphere most are turning pinkish or are digest 8mm reel versions or 16mm dupes.

I kind of like the screen captured image molly posted of lion king since you can see the film grain in the image, later most likely removed digitally from the dvd release removing detail. I hate digital scrubbing of an image and recolored by computer on these classics. Since Disney now does pratically everything on the computer now the modern crap they can recolor and ruin all they want.

If this means an old school photochemical restoration than i am all for it.
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#320152
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An interview with Spielberg and Lucas, from a few weeks ago.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/320152/action/topic#320152
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talking about the so called supernatural aspects of the first 3 films is lucas way of excusing the non existent plot of the new movie, a very lame way to try and hoodwink the audience the same way he tried with the star wars prequels.

The next thing you will hear is this lame plot and fake cgi fest of crystal skull were his original vision, LOL.

Supernatural mystery is a big blanket statement to hide the fact that the 4th outing of Indiana Jones has no plot.

This could be dubbed cinema verite style by lucas and he has done it in movies before star wars like his student films and THX 1138. Make a film abstract but the visuals have to have resonance or at least make people think, this film succeeds in neither avenue. Lucas can claim the french new wave and auteur theory and cinema verite until he is blue in the face the prequels sucked big time, Indy 4 was mediocre. It felt like in the words of bilbo baggins "butter that has been scraped over too much bread".

It is time for Lucas to retire and do those experimental films he has promised since 1983, and this time for good.

Too bad every time he sees dollars signs he changes his tune. He said there would be no Indiana Jones IV and low and behold it was made, he now wants to do part V. He said there would not be any more star wars movies after episode III but there is this animated star wars movie coming out in august.

He claimed Lucasfilms future was television and that Indy 4 and Red Wings would be his Last big screen outings. People the fact that he wants to Do Indy 5 is horrible, please make him stop before he does episodes 7-9 of star wars all on fake cgi green screen. You know if he ever runs of of money he will do them. He has even admitted he did episodes 1-3 for financial freedom. The art of filmaking was of a secondary nature. I don't even think he was a fan of star wars anymore he just saw it as a cheap cash cow because sheep will eat anything up that has Star Wars written on it.

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#320124
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/320124/action/topic#320124
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uh yeah, Terry Brooks, R.A. Salvatore and Matthew Stover are better writer's than George Lucas. The books actually try to develop the characters not using the entire reading time with reference to fake cgi like the movies.

The originals were good because of the huycks and Kasden, Lucas' scripts are terrible and misspelled and are just skeleton plots. He is a idea guy jots stuff down and gives it over to someone who can actually flesh it out with snappier dialogue and add human emotion and warmth, funny how he cut out other writers from the prequels a horrible decision, much worse than the overall indulgence in computer graphics which allowed him to get lazy.

Terry Brooks novelization is far from perfect but you can tell he tried to get a more original trilogy feel to some parts of the book. Yeah the podracing descriptions are pretty horrible. Clones actually hits on anakins relationship to Obi wan as a father son relationship in salvatores novel, finally stovers revenge of the sith again far from perfect tries for a better way for anakins turn to the darkside than a split second decision.

If you had cared to follow the clone wars comics, novels etc you would realize the seduction by papatine was a long time thing in planning, Anakin was a battle scarred and mentally scarred person because of the long haul of the clone wars. away on the front lines from his wife.

The authors of the books and comics actually examined real war effects on people and added it into the story again better than fake crappy cgi.

And as you probably already know people used to site the novel for star wars that George Could actually write, That was Alan Dean Foster. That he wrote the willow sequel trilogy of books that was Chris Claremont.

Now i will admit the movie version of star wars and empire are better than the books but Return of the Jedi novelization is better than the movie because obi wan actually describes anakins fall and transformation into vader, and of course that Owen Lars and OBi wan Kenobi are brothers, none of that attack of the clones nonsense here.

Quote "You obviously have no taste."

If you mean my tastes don't follow CGI shit films and crap writing and digital fakery then yes you are very right on the money.

I don't know what schools Lucas went to but he would have failed English at any reputable High School Or Junior College, that he supposedly went under the tutelage of Joe Campbell i find laughable and ludicrous.

There is nothing mythic about the prequels "no hero with a thousand faces" stuff there. Nothing that resonates or hits on a common experience for people, no allegory or applicability whatsoever just videogame cgi crap cutscenes and poop and fart jokes and retarded racist characters.
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#320101
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/320101/action/topic#320101
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This movies greatest weakness which could have been fixed if anybody cared is the script, just like the prequels.

You cannot add substance to a non existent plot after the fact in post with cgi.

In fact this i'll direct it in post philosophy instead of actually directing the actors and ensemble for performances is what makes the prequels suck.

Now you would say but Lucas did not direct Crystal Skull, Spielberg did. But even for spielberg this has to be one of his dimmest moments since 1941 or Temple of Doom.
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#320100
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/320100/action/topic#320100
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I had hoped the novel might be better than the film like with the prequels, sadly it is bottom of the barrel dimestore novel quality.

Yes this was done in emulation of the pulps but the pulp writers Like Burroughs actually wrote some damn good stuff Like A princess of Mars or Tarzan of the Apes, hell even the Allan Quartermain novels by h rider haggard are better.

So the movie was majorly mediocre and so was the novelization.

Even the book on tape suffers from having an awful reader and being unabridged without the music and sound effects.

I'll go back to watching the first issued widescreen dvd release, and reading the novels and listening to the soundtracks for the first 3. Will even buy the new omnibus editions of the dark horse comics and lego indiana jones. Can you believe that the comics were better than this movie was, unbelievable. Even John Williams score was uninspired and phoned in.

don't even get me started on the fact that most of the movie was shot on green screen and phony cgi instead of on location in Peru, Tunisia etc. or elsewhere like they did with the originals.

And i don't buy the fact that shooting the movie this way was more cost effective since both lucas and spielberg are multi billionaires, and the movie cost somewhere between 175-185 million dollars just to shoot it. that is more money than the previous three combined probably. Talk about so called 19 years of inflation , good grief.

After destribution costs the final tally of the films cost was 400 million dollars, a 400 million dollar turd.
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#319784
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Happy Anniversary Star Wars!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319784/action/topic#319784
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It is not much of a happy anniversary since the original version of the film can not be shown theatrically again since it was destroyed to make the special edition.

The legacy is entirely tarnished because of the 1997 and 2004 special editions, and the prequels.

I almost wish Tim Zahn's heir to the empire had not been published and resurrected star wars, since what came later is an abomination.

Return of the Jedi was not as good as the first 2 movies and after 83 no more shold have been done. Jedi had ewoks, but then came Jar Jar.
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#319783
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319783/action/topic#319783
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Both Speilberg and Lucas should retire it is very clear their best years of filmaking are behind them.

I gave Spielberg another chance after the fiasco that was war of the worlds, but Indy 4 is bad and not salvageable and ruined the franchise.

He has to work a hell of a lot harder if he wants my 12.50

Unless Lincoln totally makes me change my tune He just like his pal Lucas are never gonna get another dime from me at the movies.

Clone Wars by Luca$ looks like a friggin nintendo 64 game.
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#319782
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An interview with Spielberg and Lucas, from a few weeks ago.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319782/action/topic#319782
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the new indy was so bad they had to rip off rip off's like national treasure, and even rip off stargate and x-files.


I don't think there was a single original scene in the whole movie, and the script is so poorly written as to give the prequels a run for their money.

This was a movie which tried very hard to find its own plot and pace and failed, poor Harrison even did his best. You cannot act with a shit script and bad cgi.

I so badly wanted to love this movie and left the theater feeling empty and unfullfilled just like episodes 1-3 of the prequels.
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#319781
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BSG
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319781/action/topic#319781
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So i finally got to see the bootleg trailer of richard hatch's galactica secong coming, the effects were very good for a fan film.

too bad the trailer is a cam video in very bad quality with someone infront of the persons seat and the video is not even centered on the screen properly.

Still i like Hatch's comics and novels and this reboot would have been interesting as a theatrical feature.

I love the original galactica with dirk benedict's womanizing starbuck who gambles, gets drunk and also chomps on a cigar.

although maybe a bit too much like his alter ego on the a-team.

Hatch was in Walter Koenig's film Inalienable.
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#319691
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total newby question how to add a audio track to an official existing dvd?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319691/action/topic#319691
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I read you could do this with besweet but that not all dvd players could play it back.

I have also read about programs to add an audio track such as ifoedit and dvdlab as well as dvdrebuilder.

It is more difficult to do this if you want to keep the same menu screens and such.

I don't care if it is play only or can only be watched on my pc.

I just totally dislike the new english dub and want the old one from the vhs.

I think you are right about the possibility of having to edit the lengths of the audio or even sync up to the video since the dvd i want to match the vhs audio to is a different master than the vhs.

So i compare the lengths of the audio streams and the running time of the movie dvd vs vhs and if it matches up it will probably be easier to do this. if there are any cuts or edits in either audio or video this would be damn near impossible to do without also having to edit the dvd footage as well.

Of course my only other option would be to have to capture the analog video off of the vhs to dvd.

There are lots of these projects i would like to do for my own enjoyment. It just feels damn near impossible since i am not technology savvy with these types of software programs and it feels like i am reading an alien language or something when i read how to's off the doom9 forums unless there are diagrams to follow.

It is almost like having to go to school or something to learn these things.
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#319669
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319669/action/topic#319669
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The guy selling them on ebay said as much though he could have been lying.

16mm reduction prints in the 90's were fairly common at least i think for film conventions. comic book conventions and so on.

Many of them were rented out by film archives and i'm not sure more than a few ever made it into fans hands.

I have no contacts inside of lucasfilm and i am not aware if they rented out 16mm dupes off of the 35mm prints to conventions in the 90's.

Whether these were illegal or legal copies remains to be seen.

I only know of Derran Films prints that is probably what the 90's copies were.

Derran films were only 8mm as far as i know however so were the cineavision prints. so i am still baffled as to what 16mm prints being sold out there are.


I find it funny you can still rent copies of the documentaries on film but not the original cuts of the movies since lucasfilm does not want them to be seen.

speaking of I.P.'s of the original negatives. what i.p was used for the 70mm film cel collectibles for the original trilogy and why is not this a viable source for an anamorphic video transfer?
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#319667
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319667/action/topic#319667
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did anyone else notice that they ripped off a scene directly from the first national treasure movie? the scene i mean is where they find treasures from every ancient earth civilization. Even the real treasure was knowledge same as in national treasure.



They even ripped off the X-files as well as ripped off from all 3 previous Indiana Movies even throwing in references to young indy.

The thing with dimensional beings was obviously stolen from Stargate. But since the movie stargate not the tv series stole from both indiana and star wars and close encounters franchises they can be forgiven. since they are borrowing from the borrowers or thieving from the thieves.

Indiana IV reminds me of the movie Transformers by Michael Bay also produced by Spielberg. Another movie filled with fake cgi and bad acting and way too many homages and no original content or ideas. It also starred Shia Lobouf, LOL i'm not kidding.
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#319666
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Universal Studios (literally) on fire!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319666/action/topic#319666
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I'm surprised they even had original master recordings I remember reading somewhere that studios threw the old magnetic reels and tapes out in favor of digital copies in the 80's, apparently Universal was not one of them.

Does this mean that the masters for the back to the future scores were burned were not they released on mca records and tapes?


Vivendi sounds familiar are they are videogame company?


by the way Howard the Duck is available on dvd and uncut if you live in the u.k. PAL speedup and all that if you want a copy and live in the u.s.a.
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#319663
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319663/action/topic#319663
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basicaly this is the entire thing RAH said on the forums mielr pointed to

"For the record, it makes no difference whether one uses digital or analogue tools in restoring a film. One or the other, or a combination of both.

When one takes on a restoration project, the single overriding object is to do no harm to the ORIGINAL ELEMENTS.

In many cases, original elements, be they OCN or protection dupes are missing vital things... such as sprocket holes, portions of frames or color.

The challenge then, is not to somehow restore the sprocket holes or the color on the actual original, but rather to create a new working element to be used for all future needs, which can replicate and take the place of the unusable and damaged original.

The kiss from Rear Window has been mentioned here. The problem was that the shot was originally a dupe cut into the working OCN. It had been step printed to slow down the action, and it was severely faded.

The OCN, from which the final shot had been produced, no longer existed.

In order to create a new working element, dye layers from different elements were re-printed to recreate a shot with viable color, and then scanned, digitally cleaned to remove layers of dirt and damage, and then recorded out BACK TO FILM. While this process was achieved via a combination of analogue and digital, today we would work solely in the digital domain for a superior final product.

Digital is more expensive than analogue, but gives us better results.

Both are simply tools we use toward the creation of new working film elements.

The other point that should be made re: earlier discussions, is that there are restorations and then "restorations." There are some who believe that if you have a viable, non-faded, printable original negative, and you clean it so that the next print produced is cleaner than the previous, you have, in some way "restored" it.

This is simply marketing bunk.

The other major difference must take into account true film restoration - again whether via digital or analogue means is of no import - as opposed to digital clean-ups, which abound for home video.

The breaking point here is two-fold.

1. Whether the process was performed at full film resolution -- in most cases 2k is not considered film resolution unless for a modern DI for which the INTENT OF THE FILMMAKERS is a final 2k record. Most original OCNs, going back more than 70 years have far more than 2k information to be harvested from them.

2. Whether the process yields a final film recorded out at FULL RESOLUTION.

Again, it doesn't matter how you get to the final point, as long as the original damaged elements are re-vaulted in a state that has added no further damage.

The bottom line here is that an original camera negative exists only as an object from which to harvest an image."

I wonder what Harris thinks about Lucas destruction of the o-neg to create the special edition of star wars, would be interesting to know.

The official Lucasfilm word is "Altered" destroyed is more applicable since they cut it up.
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#319659
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The Atheism thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319659/action/topic#319659
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In my mind militant atheists are just as dangerous as religious fanatics.

These days most don't even have the balls to call themselves atheists they call themselves secular humanists or agnostics.

These liberals are just as much at fault for trying to undermine the constitution as those who are way too far to the right conservatives.

I really dislike people who want under god taken out of the pledge of allegiance or in god we trust taken off the money.

Besides the fact that in god we trust can mean anything and the founding fathers were cultists.

They at the time followed the new wave cult of reason and rejected the fall as depicted in the book of genesis. Even Thomas Jefferson saw fit to edit out the miracles as depicted in the bible.
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#319658
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319658/action/topic#319658
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I find it appalling that films like the godfather movies and now dirty harry can be restored but not star wars.

Even the rambo films were restored in previous years, as well as the sergio leone films .

We also have discussed the remaster of Close Encounters theatrical cut and blade runner being released, as well remastered not to the same standard as the final cut but not given the laserdisc 4:3 letterbox treatment star wars was given.

Looks like i will be buying the new godfather and dirty harry collection and Lucas is not getting from me a dime. The only exception is seeing Indiana Jones IV in theaters and completing my collection when it hits dvd. Hell i know the movie sucks in comparison to Raiders and last crusade, i will be buying it for the second disc only if there are deleted scenes included.
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#319656
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319656/action/topic#319656
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I think the last prints were made of the original movies in 1994 as i have read 35mm to 16mm reduced prints for conventions, and the military etc.

There was one of star wars on ebay at one point but had the a new hope in the title.

My biggest gripe is not the new hope subtitle, it is what soundtrack would have been included on these releases.

The theatrical 1985 re-release of star wars was the digital mix by ben burrt.

I have never heard that the THX mixes created for the definitive collection were ever on any film prints. If i had to make a guess it would be the 1985 or the 1977 stereo mix that would have been on the final prints ever made.

As for the gout there can be little doubt that the video masters they digitized were many many generations removed even from first release prints whether original or re-release.

any modern day oot remaster would also have to take in the fact that the original effects were 2 or 3 generations removed from the physical photography on the o-neg since it was all optically composited.


This was a problem lowry ran into on the bond films. and unlike the 1997 special editions of star wars they did not have access to original elements because 1. they were lost in a vault someplace or 2. more likely had been destroyed just like the original star trek effects opticals were thrown out by paramount.

Unlike cbs digital however lowry did not recreate effects using cgi but tried to correct the mismatching footage in digital post after the negatives were scanned.

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#319655
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total newby question how to add a audio track to an official existing dvd?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319655/action/topic#319655
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I own a dvd without the original audiotrack which is on the vhs of the same movie which audio i have ripped with goldwave in lossless wav.

How would i transcode the audio to ac-3 2.0 dolby digital , are they any free programs to do this. if they cost money how much?

now if the movie on the dvd and the vhs are the same length i should not have to sync it up at all, correct?
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#319514
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319514/action/topic#319514
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I saw this today on a 70mm screen dlp and THX sound certified theater, i enjoyed it.

*SPOILERS*

The effects were not as bad as the prequels except maybe for the alien spaceship at the end, and the fake prairie dogs at the beginning.

ox was comic relief by being a complete mind wiped retard by the alien crystal skull artifact

He was like the human equivalent of Jar Jar without all the racist charicatures .

Many of the scenes in the movie were inspired by the trilogy that came before, almost as if they tried to do the best of indiana jones rehash compilation without a story. The movie only works on nostalgia and does not stand on its own.

I will admit i clapped and cheered at the beginning when harrison first comes on screen and picks up the hat and puts it on.

To me the best thing about the movie was Karen Allen i found her and Harrison's characters reunion to be delightful. Mostly Because I love the film Raiders. I liked mutt the greaser character as well.

Spalko felt like right out of rocky and bullwinkle, or a bad 007 film. I love Cate Blanchett but this character was horribly unbelievable and poorly written.

I was almost as if they tried to make a female version of belloq.

also picking and choosing elements from 5 different scripts and trying to stitch together a single narrative from that did not work.

The reason Raiders and Last crusade are good movies if because of the scripts by Lawrence Kasden and Jeffrey Boam. The huycks script for doom sucks, but hey they also wrote howard the duck and radioland murders. The only good writing they ever did was on the first star wars and american graffiti.

After seeing how awful the film the mist was i'm not so sure the darabount script would have been any better though.

Kasden wrote brilliant sharp and witty scripts for both Raiders and empire strikes back and then his career took a nosedive. Every movie he made and script he wrote afterword sucked. Yeah the critics liked body heat, but ive never seen it so i cannot say since that is not a particular genre I dabble in.

I like primarily good drama, as well as science fiction and fantasy movies. Not always exactly working together Drama and sci fi, science fiction seen as for geeks and a bastard genre for trekkies who cannot get any.

As for the star wars prequels temple of doom and young indiana jones were prequels and perhaps George did not learn his lesson.

As for the Nazca drawings they reminded me of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiha anime where she drew them on the school grounds to attract aliens, LOL.

Also the Area 51 wahehouse scene was Like X-files without Mulder and Scully being there or m snows music scored under the scene. Even the nazca drawings reminded me of the phenomenon of crop circles and the m night rammalammadingdong movie signs.
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#319228
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319228/action/topic#319228
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bits and pieces on the restoration can be seen in the magic and the mystery, the making of the special edition documentary on the laserdisc.

I'll haver to try and dig them up online but i believe cinefex or american cinematographer had some info on the restoration not too sure though

http://www.theasc.com/magazine/starwars/index.html

found this article on the restoration.
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#319226
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Info Wanted: Prequels Original Version?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319226/action/topic#319226
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I also have the widescreen vhs and it is indeed the theatrical cut of the phantom menace, i have the japan laserdisc. I have a hongkong boot dvd mastered from the laserdisc and another mastered form the widescreen vhs.

I also have the 3 disc super vcd theatrical telecine of attack of the clones missing the end titles, and of course i have the Zion edition theatrical boot of revenge of the sith.

from what i read the phantom menace had to be remastered for its official dvd release.

The image on the vhs and even the japan laserdisc is very grainy.

I have heard there was a dvb of phantom menace, have even heard there may be an HD version of the theatrical out there someplace.

the sound mix on the laserdisc is simply phenomenal even when played back simply in stereo, i am sure someone with the equipment to decode dolby digital ex would agree. I'm going on memory here but as far as listening to the laserdisc goes as far as i can tell this is the theatrical mix, much more dynamic than the remix 5.1 on the dvd.