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Pulp Fiction is disturbing like any of Tarantino's films.  But there is something strangely compelling about it.  The script was brilliant and the directing and stylized look brilliant.  Samuel L Jackson has never done better acting work.  This movie made his credentials.  Too bad he has done nothing but bad movies since then. 

I would classify pulp fiction as tarantino's one masterpiece, just like Shamalan's Sixth Sense a one off if you will.

The hippest coolest film of the 90's was Pulp Fiction.  At leat according to the cool crowd at my old school which i was not a part of.

Dude comparing a cultural icon like pulp fiction to the star wars prequels is just laughable beyond any degree.  Maybe you could make a case in comparing its cultural impact to those of the original star wars trilogy which i would not do myself.  But the six hours of video game footage with no story prequels, get outta here pal,lol.

I wish the New Star Wars trilogy was as good as the original or at least on par with Peter Jackson's Lord of The rings trilogy.  What did i get one of the most ineply directed and scripted over the top special effects reels ever assembled. George never raped my childhood but the prequels sure did crap all over the memories of the magical days of my childhood. 

But it is a truism you have to accept as an adult you can never relive your childhood again.  That is not Lucas fault that the fan base grew up and away and wanted less kiddie stuff.

At the end of the day i accept the films as they are and not as the films i wanted them to be.  After all they are only movies.  It is just a nice little pastime to talk over the details of what you would have liked to be different or what would you have done in Lucas shoes. 

Even Marcia Lucas said to george "you canot peak forever george"  Eventually the artistic hits are replaced with commercial ones.  He continued to make great films up to 1989 and during the Young Indy series.  But after that everything has been shit.  Though episode 1 was okay as a kind of disney like kids movie.  Episodes II and III where worse because they were all frenetic action and no substance. 

Lucas i believe is a genious and has great ideas.  Not always easy to get those down on paper or capture them on film.

Leaving it to the EU novelists to fill in the blanks or add human depth to the characters is a joke.

Lucas most interesting ideas were underplayed and glossed over with cgi sequences.  One of the most interesting to me is the commentary on how a democracy can become a dictator state or an empire, and i believe Lucas was echoing history here as well as trying to apply it to our own times.

Lucas studied anthropology, and the social sciences and is not a dumb man.  I think he just does not trust his audience patience and only does faster and more intense and quick pase and cuts in his movie scenes when he could have made a great dark epic about Anakins Fall from grace and why democracy is worth fighting for and why people should not give into being oppressed and subverted.  The Rebellion storyline for instance should have been in the movies.

No rotten reviews, even the greatest films get one or 2 rotten reviews. 

Something is fishy.  Too much like AICN and Trekmovie.com.

I don't believe it until i see the movie.  And they could be tricking us again like they did for revenge of the sith and indiana jones IV being good movies.  Because of that Ebert lost an extreme amount of credibility as well as him liking the mummy curse of the dragon emporer.

He gets my respect for his damning reviews of the clone wars movie and Quantum of Solace.  But even he admitted he likes dumb entertainment cheeseball cinema that is bad filmaking, how else do you excuse him being a Lucas appologist.  I miss Siskel he would have told that the later II prequels sucked doney balls, and that indiana jones IV was a giant stinking turd.

I don't get Indy 4's mostly positive rating on rotten tamatoes.  It is certified fresh.  When it is most certainly rotten.  But in comparison to other modern crap it was good according to these people.  So film has gone so low that crap films of yesteryear are better than todays movies. 

Temple of Doom was better than crystal Skulls never thought i would ever have thought that. It ties up the Raiders threads in a neat little bow but was that really necessary?  Reminds me a bit of Return of the Jedi which i still love by the way,lol.

I think Revenge of the Sith just barely scrapped by with a fresh rating the last time i checked,lol.

In Shatterpoint by stover a novel you read that he walks the razors edge between the light side and the dark side because of his fighting style, Vaapad? 

A lot of jedi seem to draw on anger or hatred to destroy their enemies.  It seems to me logical to hate injustice and evil, and sometimes to fight it you slip down to your enemies level and use the same tactics because the end justifies the means.  At least this is how it works in fiction and in real life for lots of people though i am not speaking from personal experience.

Remember how angry and powerful Obi Wan was when qui gon was cut down by darth maul?  He seemed to be drawing on the dark side there to win the duel, kind of how luke goes nuts in return of the jedi.

Anakin goes even further by losing himself to anger over the death of his mother and kills a whole colony of tuskens even women and children.  Also out of anger and revenge he cuts off both count dookus hands and when he begs and pleads for mercy beheads him.  Then to save padme he kills all his jedi brethren including the children and women, armed and unarmed.  Supposedly even the civilians working at the temple who just were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Also remember Dooku was a jedi and his padawan was Qui Gon.  and Dookus master/teacher was Yoda.  So not only did Kenobi fail as a teacher training Anakin.  Yoda failed as well.  Unless the failure was the students alone. 

It certainly gives new meaning to Kenobi's speech about anakin " I thought i could instruct him just as well as yoda. i was wrong."  

Originally it was Kenobi's pride and hubris for taking on Anakin as a student against the jedi orders wishes, we don't know enough but maybe he broke the rules and was not even supposed to train anyone because he was just a knight and not a master.   Now instead of Yoda being the wise one and perfect jedi he is as much a liar as kenobi and a douchebag for allowing Dooku his student to rise to becoming a sith lord.

Haven't you been on these boards long enough to know that Anchorhead only likes star wars '77 as far as the films are concerned, without having to ask.  Or are you just being funny? lol.

Considering Anchorhead has reverence for the original film that started it all that Lucas has tried to destroy and bury, therefore Anchorhead is welcome here.  I agree that none of the sequels, prequels or whatever recreate the magic of the original film in 1977.  Though Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi oot versions come close, but the prequels are like a million miles short of that.

Phase II is really wish fulfillment largely for James Cawley.  He always wanted to sit in the center seat as a little boy and play James Tiberious Kirk.

So he funds the thing out of his own pocket so he can play Captain Kirk.

I find it truly bizarre actually as bizarre as those who dress up in star wars or star trek gear and go to conventions.

It would be the equivalent of a star wars fan putting up the money to do small little films and cast their own self as Luke Skywalker.  And somehow get lesser actors not the starring role actors from the original movies to appear.  Get some of the original effects artists and screenwriters as well,lol.

Cawley asked Shatner to do new Voyages/phase II, Shatner coyly refused saying something like " I'll leave that up to Walter and George."

He does not do non union work and would never conceive of taking an unpaid role or cameo.

Plus he wants to keep the door slammed shut on star trek that he closed himself when killing kirk in generations.  Now when he sees there is fame and money and the promise of a starring role in JJ's sequel which won't happen hes dreaming, he wants to play Kirk again.  Only because he does not want to be upstaged by his friend Leonard Nimoy.

Does he want to play Kirk Prime to Nimoy's Spock Prime?  Kirk died on Veridian 3 after leaving the nexus and was able to save the next generation, but not himself or the enterprise D.

IF picard was killed instead then Kirk would be the captain of the enterprise E at least according to tos fanboys who hate the next generation.

Return of the Jedi is one of my favorite scores so i cannot wait to hear your version 2, ABC.

One of my favorite pieces has always been the sail barge assualt also titled The Return of the Jedi.

Its a great swashbuckling piece which reminds me of Erich Korngold.

I always loved when the music comes in right when Luke flips artoo a salute does a backflip summersault back onto the skiff and extends his hand to recieve his Lightsaber which artoo just launched like a missile.

That and the swing across on the skiff reminds me of the swashbuckling outrageous fun of what is now called Episode IV a new hope.

Empire Strikes back may be the perfect star wars movie, but star wars is the most fun and the best adventure.  Jedi is the best from nostalgia if it was the first star wars you saw in theaters like i did in 1985 and i found it to be a revelation.    What could be better than Transformers or HE man, i was in star wars heaven and on cloud nine and wanted to be a jedi knight like luke skywalker.

Star Wars is like crack for a seven year old.  I bet my dad who was always primarility a fan of shatner on star trek the tv show later regretted introducing me to another one of my crazes,lol.

We know how the Phantom Menace performs when set against the standards of the oot, but how does it stand up against other films that came out in 1999?

I would ask the same for 2002 attack of the clones

and 2005 revenge of the sith.

What sci fi blockbusters have come out since 1999 that have done it better?

I could extend this all the way back to 1983 when the saga officially ended with the release of Return of the Jedi and was a closed subject.

But i'm more interested in sci fi/fantasy films of the nineties and 2000's that did a better job with their effects and story.  List some wontcha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_in_film

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_in_film

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_in_film

You guys have never seen the bad animated clone wars movie?

Punky Muffin is what Jabba calls stinky the hutt,lol.

From what i read it was made for 3000 bucks, with all the people working on it being unpaid.

Sort of like Star Trek Phase II in a way.

There are some impressive star wars fan films out there as well like Revelation, the Pink Five series, and the troops sequel IMPS.

Then there is that foreign film the dark revelation of something that has no english dilaogue and has to be watched entirely with subtitles.

Well i liked Hellboy, have to see Golden Army have not yet.  Liked his direction on Blade II.

Have yet to see Pan's Labyrinth the subtitles and non english was abit off putting.  Plus the plot was spoiled and i really don't like movies with really down endings.  But not all films have to have a happy ending. 

I am happy Del Toro is keeping Smaug's speech.  Early on the studio wanted to do away with that getting images of that bad movie where sean connery voices a dragon.

Having continuity and same actors for a lot of the roles with the lord of the rings films is awesome.  Filmed in the same locales as lord of the rings.  Peter Jackson as a producer and screenwriter with fran walsh.  Ian Mckellen as gandalf, i hope christopher lee returns as saruman.  I also hope to see Vigo as Aragorn, The dude from pirates of the caribbean as legolas.  I want to see how they pull off Beorn the were bear.  Who they choose to play Bilbo baggins and the dwarves.  The music better be by Howard Shore and the London Philarmonic.

I want to see the first convincing fairy story dragon brought to the screen.  It has not been done before.

Since the story of sigurd the dragon slayer has never been put to film at least with the dragon taunting the hero.  They better do the riddle contest in gollums cave, that chapter riddles in the dark was always one of my favorites.

IS Weta doing the effects ?  is it being shot on super 35mm film like lord of the rings?

Its great for a fan film.  But it seems like they are trying to copy the PJ style and even the voices of the original actors.

I would like to see more official films or fanfilms based on Tolkiens projects.   There have been scarce few fanfilms or fanfiction because the Tolkien estate could always get their lawyers to send a cease and desist.

I guess usually as long as no profit is made nothing happens.  But there are cases where even non profits get shut down.

Since the Tolkien family is not being paid for the unauthorized use of characters, and adapting a work of his fiction.  Also the Sael Zaentz company that holds all film rights under the name tolkien enterprises i am sure will bring the hammer down once they see this film.

They obviously do not want competition in any way when they are busy making the Hobbit films with Del Toro. 

There is still that pending legal matter of breach of contract the tolkien estate is rumored to bring against tolkien entrprises and new line for not paying the 8% of royalties due to the estate for films that grossed billions.  Christopher Tolkien was not happy with the liberties Peter Jackson took with the material and obviously would be more than happy to prevent the hobbit from ever being released.

Lets say that situation has already been dissolved secretely, he will still never allow anyone to film any part of the silmarillion and has it as a protected work for up to a hundred years.

The only parts of the Silmarillion allowed for use are the bits and pieces in the lord of the rings appendices and the mention of the events of them in the text.

I think i'm the one who started it by referring to a post on vaderisnothayden being too negative.  Guilty as charged,lol.

I brought up the prequel bashing by saying it was awesome to find someone who hated them more than i did, since i thought that was impossible.

I think the style of transformers has its genesis in just about every big movie Lucas or Spielberg ever made.  The film has tons of homages.  But it clearly recalls the prequels type of over the top cgi and i don't think hollywood going to go back to making movies the old school way ever again.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy may be one of the last to use traditional tecniques along with cgi and be shot on film instead of HD video.  I know that other movies like Serenity also did both. 

Trek 2009 like Sky Captain is and the matrix is probably 90%or more designed in a computer.

To me LOTR is the last of the great trilogies i love it second only to the original star wars trilogy.  Every other modern thing is either garbage or entertainment for 2 hours that you never ever watch again.

Maybe some exceptions like Spider Man 1 and 2 and x-men 1 and 2.  I will never watch transformers again, or x-men 3 or spider man 3.

And I would add Batman Begins.  I'm kind of split on the dark knight.  I think the movie was way over rated and over hyped.  Still a good movie.  As for Iron man or the new hulk i don't understand the hype over those crap films.  Iron Man like the upcoming Terminator had great design by the Stan Winston studio but beyond that there is not much else i can say.  Its another blockbuster with rediculous unnecessary over the top cgi.

I'll admit Iron Man has heart, and is better than the fox made marvel films.  Still it is a very silly movie based on a comic book and the cgi takes center stage and the acting is second place.

It does well for its genre and does not pretend to be something that its not.  Unlike say the star wars prequels and indiana jones IV which roped you in with the promise as being as good as the originals and then crapped all over your memories.  The trailers lied and said they were epics and action packed awesome films.  Then you see the finished turd projected on screen.

I like your non prequel classic card backs and expanded universe ones quite a lot actually.  But i noticed you never made one for Luke as a Jedi in Return of the Jedi in the so called "vaderish" tunic.

My favorite figure was always that Luke figure with the green lightsaber and cloak, but the early version had a blue lightsaber.  I guess that would be the revenge of the jedi version.

I never bought any prequel figures though i almost bought the maul master replicas FX swords.  Maul is one of the few things i like about the prequels including Padme.  Hayden had the look well enough he just could not act, or perhaps acting like a child and being a young bratty teenager was George's design, i don't know.

The Look of Episode II and III i have very liitle problem with.  The plot and scripts and dialogue leave a lot to be desired, but a few rewrites and another screenwriter could have salvaged things.

Anakin being a sullen and creapy asshole really does not match the Good Anakin Obi Wan told us about in the originals.  Perhaps now we are to infer obi wan is a liar of the first magnitude right up there with Palpatine.

If you read the secret history of star wars you find the Phantom Menace had quite a few drafts whereas in II and III its started in the art department and pre viz and Lucas script came very late, and there were much less work and attention paid to the script.  Lucas got all the raw footage he needed and coverage and decided to craft the story during the editing.

I see the prequels as a version of the backstory and more of an EU add on than anything and a mediocre to decent one at that.  That does not mean i accept them as the canon beginnings of the ot that should not have been left aside for 20 years.  The man got rusty and forgot the oot.

To me the real backstory has yet to be revealed.  If and that is a big if Lucas ever allows the old story plots to be published as notes or scripts and outlines kind of like the annotated screenplays.  A book that shows the genesis of the prequels from the seventies concept up to what we ultimetely got.

If we take Kurtz on his word Episodes 1-3, and VI VII VIII and IX would have been very different.  Leia not the sister, Emporer not seen til much much later.   Leia becomes a queen of her people and ends up with neither luke or han.  Luke Becomes the new Kenobi type character who passes the torch down to the next generation of jedi in episodes 10, 11 and 12.

Of course Empire Strikes Back altered the original I-II and III because Vader was the killer of Lukes father and not his father and the first 3 would have dealt with Lukes Father, Vader and Obi Wan Kenobi and the old republic and the clone wars as well as revealed the mandalores the people of fett.

Other people would say we ended up with a more closed universe because of the changes in empire strikes back and return of the jedi.  I actually think Having Vader as the Father and Leia as the sister makes things more interesting.  It gives star wars mythic depth like the old greek stories.  where before the episodes 1-12 arc was just random sci fi adventure tales like burroughs mars or flash gordon.

Oh yeah and if padme lived until the years between III and IV Return of the Jedi would not have to be ruined but that is a story for another time.

Having Luke trained to kill the killer of his father makes the story very cut and dry.  All Luke has to do is kill vader and avenge his father, rather than Vader is his father and therefore Luke has to examine the darkness within himself.

I hope lucas is not directing the footage of this secret production, or rick mcallum.

I'm not really interested because you know Boba's going to sound like Jango Fett and not the pre 2004 real boba fett voice by Paul Wingreen. 

Plus Fett was a small character in the original films and now in the current EU is almost becoming even a bigger character than Luke Skywalker.  Which is laughable.  He was one of the baddies cronies in Empire.  He was Vaders bitch.  Now hes the greatest thing since sliced bread.  All the more btter for Lucash to sell action figures.

I was a bit annoyed when he was in star wars special edition to pander to the fanboys, as he had no place there.   And i bet you he was not the real fett under the suit Jeremy Bulloch.  Just some extra.  The same probably on star tours.

Just like on Empire Strikes back special edition it was not Dave Prowse in the suit for the new footage.  Don't even get me started on how he was not in episode III and they put Hayden in the suit,lol.

Yeah the big hands thing is like something out of a childrens cartoon.  Reminds me of the big heads code in the arcade game NBA Jam.

But remember who the writers are they wrote transformers and MI3.  They have to be the worst screenwriters i have seen since david koepp or akiva goldsman. 

Which does not seem possible read akiva scripts for lost in space and batman and robin, or koepp's Indiana Jones IV.  Oh yeah thats right the indy IV script was so bad it was never even leaked much less publicly released in book form.

Just like the trek script on JJ's movie will probably never be released.  Or not for a long while.

It will have to be judged based on the movie.

I am waiting to see just what kind of laughable dialogue they came up with for transformers 2, or what they will come up with for star trek 2 JJ abrams.  Remember JJ's new movie is like star trek 1 not star trek 11.  So the next film will really not be star trek 12.

and Trek 2009 is not really even a new movie it is only being released now but has almost been finished for a year.

Yes the big hands is worse than spocks brain, kirok or the singing hippies in the sixties show.

Yeah VaderisnotHayden pretty much rivals even my hatred of the prequels and surpasses it with flying colors. Which does not seem quite possible,lol.

I find myself mostly entertained by his posts and find myself laughing when he goes into how inept the mustafar duel was.  Or he basically talks about Lucas plain ineptness since star wars ended in 1983 and got rebooted in 1997 as special crap editions.

Vaderisnothayden said:

TPM is the only prequel in which the any of the main characters work well. Neeson as Qui Gon is great. Portman is mostly good as Padme. In contrast to how she was awful in AOTC and ROTS. McGregor is better than how he was in the later two prequels, more genuine, though still hardly inspired. Of course, the film doesn't do great with Anakin, but the later prequels do even worse. In the later prequels I found I couldn't give a fuck about any of the main characters, which seriously took from the story. TPM was better on that front.

But the final lightsaber battle in TPM is overrated. It's good in some ways, but it's overdone and the music is overdone. There was no need to beat the audience over the head with the message "This is Epic!" They did that even worse in the ROTS battle on Mustafarted, of course, and that battle had zero value, while the TPM one had some.

The podrace we could all have done without.

TPM totally broke the unspoken rules of star Wars films by loading on obviously cartoon characters. In the OT, some creatures were unconvincing, but the aim was to make them come off as real as possible. The OT tried to make things seem real. In TPM, we're hit with a lot of creatures who seem to be designed with no effort to make them come off real. This includes not only the CGI characters but also the cartoonish Trade Federation guys, who were really annoying, and the droid soldiers, who were just done as a joke (the OT never made its villains just a joke like that).

 And the cgi backgrounds helped (along with the cartoon characters) to give a very unreal feel to the film. Admittedly the OT used some matte paintings for backgrounds, but TPM sometimes really went out of its way to make things look unreal when that could easily have been avoided. This of course did not improve in the later prequels.

 The OT worked by bringing imagined things to life and making them seem real. TPM failed so badly here. TPM's reality fails to convince.

The Mustafar duel was largely designed and co-directed by Steven Spielberg who oversaw the artists early cuts of the live action with the pre viz.  He is uncredited.  But this was the first time lucas and him worked together since last crusade.  And a precursor to Steven doing Crystal Skull and most of the editing choices via pre viz and computer cgi sequences.

Well most of the camera angles and editing choices were done during the pre viz on the Lord of the Rings films but nobody complains about those films.  Or the heavy use of cgi in them, because the context it is used in.  Plus the trilogy by Peter Jackson are damn good films and the star wars prequels are a giant black mark on the star wars legacy.

Plus you have the situation with the Gout and the originals being ruined via the special editions.  To the point its a very hard thing to be a fan of star wars or George Lucas for that matter anymore.  I am not surprised when people sell all their old star wars stuff and cease being fans because Lucas destroyed star wars.

To me if it was not for Zahn, the sequel era EU and the video games and comics star wars should have died in 1983 and died with some frickin dignity.   Yeah It ended with ewoks and a teddy bear picnic, still better than Jar Jar stepping in poo and fart jokes and Hayden Christensen.

But at the end of the day i realize George Lucas is a businessman.  and these films were made for a diiferent audience then the originals movies and a different generation of young people.  Kids used to cartoon cgi and big explosions and little substance in the movies they watch today.  Even though the series ended in 2005 the prequels are already looking pretty dated.  And the audience they were made for have grown up and away from star wars.  Whereas fans of the originals still have a huge amount of fond memories and nostalgia.

The prequels  situation are like the kids who grew up on power rangers and thought it was the greatest thing ever and then when they watched it as adults said it was shit.

These films are mediocre and garbage and wil not be remembered twenty to thirty years from now and the cgi in them is already surpassed and is laughably outdated.

generalfrevious said:

Unfortunately, when the SW Blu-Ray finally shows up (I'm guessing 2-3 years from now) they will make you pine for the 04 versions. And when, if they ever, decide to release the OOT on Blu-Ray, it will most certainly be the same LD port we have now. To think the SW Blu-Ray will be any good is asking for the impossible. I am certain that even in 2020 when Blu-Ray itself bites the dust the GOUT will still be the standard.

On the Abrams Star Trek, I honestly think it will be horrid at best. I've chosen to see it simply because it appears to so bad it worth wasting $10 to see yet another franchise bite the dust. Which is sad because it is now certain that every single fucking franchise that was adored in the last 35 years will be pulverized into pure unadulterated garbage by their own creators (as Lucas with the PT and Indy 4), or by some outsider (Bay with Transformers or Abrams with Star Trek). Eventually each summer just brings another destroyed franchise limping into the theaters, and it is our unfortunate duty to watch it all burn away. I just can't wait to see what 80s franchise they'll maul in 2010.

You don't have to wait til 2010 for another eighties property to be ruined.  It might turn out to be good or very very bad but gi joe is coming out this year.

Spielberg sat in the screening room for Bay and watched Revenge of the Fallen.  He said it was like the greatest thing he ever saw or something.  Too bad its the same Spielberg who directed Indiana Jones IV and who thought the star wars prequels were good movies.

He actually directed the pre viz of the mustafar lightsaber duel in revenge of the sith uncredited.  Designed some of the quick cuts in the scenes.  Though i don't doubt the sillyness is all George.

Yeah the original series season 1 blu ray is great.  But the movie set is an abomination.  They bumped the contrast way up on the motion picture and applied harsh digital noise reduction to remove the grain therefore removing almost the entire top layer of the image and smoothing it out causing lack of sharp detail.

I have only seen screen grabs for the first film but I hope their extensive restoration of the wrath of khan is not digital noise reductioned to hell. 

The set is not out here yet.  But reviewers copies have been sent out.  The pal uk set in BD is out however.

There is a theory its just a theory mind you.  That the supersaturated colors on the 2004 are supposed to look like the technicolor dye strip print Lucas has in his vault. 

I myself don't buy it.  Those who saw one of the few available prints in the seventies never complained about blown out colors and crushed blacks.

Sigh.  I would pay a lot of money for Lucas to hand over his technicolor print to the same team who restored the adventures of robin hood, it would be the first time since 1977 people would see star wars true color palette they have been missing on home video.

License the oot to criterion for a low rate since Lucas cares nothing for the originals and have Robert Harris restore the oot.  Lucas gets to make huge royalties on sales and everyone is happy, the end.

The Lucas fear is probably that a true restoration of the originals would make no one want the 2004 set.  At least for me he's right,lol.

Lets see a set with botched colors and swapped audio channels and incorrect lightsaber colors and garbage mattes more noticeable than they have ever been, or the real theatrical colors and the garbage mattes digitally removed cleaned up or re-composited optically.  The real sound mix from 1977 on six track,  the mono and stereo.  The best reason of all no added cartoon cgi or prequels bullshit.  Since Hayden was born in 1981 he does not belong in a 1983 film like Return of the Jedi.

I don't buy the garbage excuse that because star wars is sci fi/fantasy it is allowed to be ruined with newly added cgi.  Notice how they don't go back and add cgi to Wizard of OZ, Casablanca, gone with the wind or Citizen Kane.  The original star wars trilogy is one of the biggest if not the biggest modern classic of all times.  To me it is a crime against art (figuretely speaking) for the films that represent those years and technologies implemented in 1977, 1980, and 1983 not be preserved as they were.

Lucas does not want dueling versions of his films and only wants the one out there he considers to represent his artistic vision the closest.  What about leaving some choice to people what version they want to see.  If i want to not watch the 2004 then i don't have to, and those who prefer that version for some strange reason can watch it as well and everybody is happy.  No split fanbase.

That was precisely my problem with the Legacy series it was a bad rehash of the prequels.  Jacen basically goes through the prequel Episode III Anakin route and hurts and kills people who love him.

He falls the same way as those before him fell, instead of needing power to save his wife he needs the darkside for control and to bring peace and stability to a galaxy forever at war, only sometimes does peace prevail.

He wants for selfish reasons the galaxy to be a safe place for his child to grow up in.  He is willing to sacrifice anything to achieve his ends.  He is believable in that instance.  Parents will do anything to protect their children from harm.

Even though he merge into the force rather than becoming one with it.  I still think he was not beyond redemption his last thoughts and wishes were to protect his daughter, though Jaina did not believe him.

The jedi were so changed and darkened by the Yuuzhan Vong war as to be perilously close to the darkside.  Even Luke accepted Vergeres ways at first and then later rejected them.  Even now Luke does not know vergere was a sith lord.  Mara probably suspected, and Jacen knew as well as Lumiya.  They are all croaked now though,lol.

You also feel bad for Tahiri who lost Anakin and through her love was twisted dark by Jacen.  Through Ben Skywalker's intervention she gets a chance at rememption.

Because when you are dealing with film it is actually a part of the physical structure of the image.  Unlike HD Video.

Movies shot on film look better than ones shot on Hidef video. 

Films should not be altered to look like video, either.

Of course its the directors and producers choice but they should also put the pre ruined version of their films on dvd and blu ray as well.

I have seen Goldeneye in theaters and we used to have the special edition first printing anamorphic region 1 disc and the aspect ratio is supposed to be wider than it is on the UE.  Lowry either cropped the picture accidentally or they were sent a cropped print either way the lowry release is an abomination least of which they changed the coloring from the theatrical release.

When the director of photography and cameramen are dead, or the directors are no longer around they cannot make sure lowry does not screw their movies up.

The only director approved versions of dr no, from russia with love, are the criterion versions.  Or those derived from the original films masters without color changes.  The special editions are far closer to their theatrical releases than the ultimate editions.  Although on some ultimates the aspect ratio was correct for the first time as well as having the original theatrical mono or stereo tracks.  Between the releases it is a mixed bag not at all really any different than the gout vs the 2004 star wars trilogy im affraid.

The 2004 star wars set and the lowry bonds were produced for modern consumption in mind, they were not produced to be authentic to their original theatrical releases.  In fact these people had the nerve to say these were improved over the originals.

Until Goldeneye gets a fixed release on dvd i won't be buying the UE.  Most likely will skip dvd and go straight to Blu Ray.   This is probably why Goldeneye the most requested and wanted Bond film for Blu has not been released.  They probalbly have to do a new scan and cleanup, from a print that is the correct 2:35:1 aspect ratio.  Not what looks like a cropped widescreen tv print.  Even the Letterbox laserdisc has a wider aspect ratio than the UE.

I would just as soon see a 4k scan done of a theatrical release print or IP with the correct grain structure and colors the film is supposed to have. Not be scrubbed to look like HDvideo by Lowry algorithm and dvnr process. 

I blame the ruining of films on people with their LCD HTDV displays set up for playing video games and the movies that are all shot now on HD Video and have no grain unless added artificially.

You should see what these modern film restorations have done to sleeping beauty and pinochio.  They destroyed the original colors and removed the top layer of detail to smooth away the grain.

Most of Lucas films have been destroyed on dvd by grain removal  which removes the way these movies should look based on the film stocks and lenses used.  THX 1138 and American Graffiti look far too clean, star wars is almost completely ruined.  The Indiana Jones films were scrubbed free of grain and speilberg was unhappy with the process so lowry added the grain back, from what i remember anyway.

The Dark Knight elavated Nolan even higher than Batman Begins.  He is a golden boy in hollywood at the moment, and they would be crazy to make the third film without him.

It is true Burton was not very faithful to the comics his batman fits his bizarre Burtanverse far better.  And Jack Niholson acted like Jack, and some kind of pastiche of the 60's cartoonish Joker.

The first Batman film in 1989 was the only film supervised and given approval by Bob Kane who allowed Burton to make changes in the story.  Like the Joker killing batman's parents to give the character a motivation.

Burton had the darker noir ish batman first, but the phychology of the character was that he like a circus freak and so were the villains in those pictures.  There was a bit of the surreal in Burtons version.  His batman was like the bad james bond films all about the gadgets and not about the character.

Nolans version grounds the series in a heathy dose of reality and for the first time made Batman believable as a living breathing and deeply flawed human character.

Joel Shusuckers version should just be completely forgotten it is so awful.