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vaderios said:

Got it 005 ;)

 

Now i had an idea of a more dramatic and dynamic destruction of executor.

Forgive the mess, was done quick

Id like to have executor scratching the surface (ala Star trek nemesis) before explode to pieces, leaving a cool scar to DS's surface.

 

-Angel

In the ROTJ novelisation, the SSD takes a bunch of fighters, support craft, and star destroyers with it when it crashes.

Hey, you know what might be a good idea for Endor?

Just to set the stage that there's some fierce creatures on the planet. Maybe Han and co. walk upon a burned out hulk of a AT-AT?

They would be like "what the heck did that?".

Just an idear.

it also fits into bingowings suggestion that there exists a state of war between imperials and ewoks.

I love those shots

Mega gargantuan welder machines. I love it.

ROTJ needs more work than the previous two films combined

Bingowings said:

For people who really need a happy ending the cockpit could jettison and turn into the Landopod (the superdooper high speed escape pod...if the Bat can do it why not the Billy Dee?) which can still outrun the explosion but now with the added tension of fire and the loss of the Falcon.

Or how about the egg from Mork and Mindy?

oh sorry fishmanlee. yes it was you.

Venal, hahaha!

Seriously though, I think you could certainly do that with some ewoks in the main battle. Not too grisly, but just to get the point across that this is a fierce battle to end all battles.

Have you toyed with expanding the scope of the ground battle yet?

fishmanlee, was that your Geonosis work where you made it look like a night shot?

Sometimes subtle things like that can make so much difference.

angel...LOL.

All of this work is stunning guys. great work.

ESF, I don't think Vader's shuttle landed in the same bay. I think he picked a smaller one.

EyeShotFirst said:

Darth Venal said:

(I was told this pic belongs on this thread instead of where I put it...)

This is slightly ahead of itself, but there isn't a Jedi thread and while we're all going full throttle with the matte paintings, here's one I'm working on for Jabba's palace.

I am probably going to put another canyon wall on the left, rather than leaving it as one entirely open plain, and will probably remove the rock feature in the distance. But the right-hand side and sky are pretty close to how I want them.

I have always wondered why there werent any ships outside jabba's palace. Not everybody lives with Jabba and I am sure you would at least see Boba's. The Millenium Falcon could be hidden some where but nonetheless you might could add ships. If we wen't with our Boba Fett badass idea posted a good 20 pages back you could make a shot of the slave 1 flying away.

 

Underground parking? :p

Seriously, that is great Venal. As others have mentioned, there does need to be some atmospheric haze added to the palace to take its sharpness down a notch. But truly wonderful work.

I don't know if I would add a canyon to the other side of the shot or just center the palace more into the shot and make the cliff it's perched on more mystical or something.

satanika said:

A real City in the Clouds?

 

 

Well, it's actually London under some heavy fog with only a few Canary Wharf buildings breaking through...

It immediately made me think of Cloud City though. :)

Or Senator Amidala's arrival in AOTC

That also makes the ewoks seem more fierce and less docile(what were they doing in the original? no threat. no concern = no tension or suspense)

These things all raise the stakes.

Are there any films out there with forest warfare against an largely invisible enemy? I'm just thinking of anything to add to the scope of the ground battle.

The war would also help explain better why the ewoks have all these weapons available at a moments notice.

Also, alien languages with subtitles gives you room to maneuver dialogue around too and create subplots where none existed before.

Yes bingo. That's a great idea. I cant remember was that your mockup or Angels?

Yes. You'd need someone skilled in paint work AND camera tracking(matchmoving) to pull that off.

I love this thread. As recently as 5 years ago, I never thought most of the stuff that has already been done by ady or contemplated by the rest of us would ever be remotely possible.

Great list. It's funny you mentioned haircuts because Hamill has mentioned how he wanted a buzzcut or something to show a change in appearance for ROTJ.

But I also like a subtle scar too.

edit:

The Ewoks have been apparently waging a guerrilla war against the Imperials the whole time. Moff Jerjerod keeps denying that there is any problem with 'the natives,' clearly indicating that there is a problem

Now this is an idea I've wanted to see for a long time. You have the idea of a war. You combine it with the idea that the ewoks have scored victories, but are slowly losing. Their numbers are dwindling. Then you have them forging an agreement with the rebel strike force to launch an all out attack before they're wiped out for good.

Bingowings said:

Exactly we could write thousands of words explaining a possible change or we can post a single image.

Personally, I love the images and mock ups.

vaderios said:

Eden's gardens in Bespin? hmm sounds promising! :)

 

-Angel

Yes. Like an atrium.

Sometimes in these films, you just have to toss logic out in favour of beauty. They're more space operaish than Hard SF.

FOUR?

How about just one?

I always looked at the dark side as a means of power and control. Control and power over others.

There was a line somewhere in the ROTS novel where Palps further seduces Anakin by promising him a whole star system. It's those kind of things that would go further in the seduction as a quest for more power and control.

This goes back to AOTC and his inability to let things go and his need to control where people are and what they're doing. He puts R2 in Padme's room to watch her. He dreams and obsesses over his mother's fate.

It's like the old saying: the road to hell is paved with good intentions. His original intent may have been noble, but misguided. By ROTS, it should become simply power for power's sake.

It should be like him slowly becoming addicted to the power he thinks the dark side will give him.

EyeShotFirst said:

You made my day shaner. I made that weeks ago and had absolutely no response. It took me awhile to do it except the peter one. LOL.

Really? Hahaha. Some credit should go to Enigma for helping bring that vision into my head.

Attrayuu!

I'm all for tying the PT films together by adding more Qui-Gon.

You could have a couple of scenes in ROTS where both Qui-Gon and Palpatine "visit".

Well you could always take a pic of Padme and show some kind of visual that alludes to tragic outcome, but in a clever way that would only become apparent later.

Like have a "vision" where Anakin walks up to Shmi and tries to grab onto her but she shatters into shards of glass.

it doesn't have to look photoreal at all.

Bingowings said:

I remember back around the time of TPM some magazine carried a picture of a plain steel looking Fett helmet and armour which (like Jengo) had no dings or dents in it. No paint just shiny metal.

Did I dream it or does anyone else remember what I'm talking about?

 

On a different note it kind of came up over in the ESB/ROTJ wishlist thread so I'm going to post it here.

A lot of people don't like the dreams/flashforwards/visions in ROTS and feel they are out of place in the Star Wars universe.

At the risk of being branded a heretic, the cave sequence in ESB is a form of dream/vision but it's done in a completely different way.

If we saw Anakin's dreams of his mother and Padme in a more stylised and dreamlike manner with symbolism and ambiguity (rather than just a clipshow with a wobbly distortion) like Luke's vision of his head inside Vader's mask would that be more acceptable?

I seem to remember that in the novelisation of AOTC Anakin dreamt of his mother turning into glass and shattering (or was that somewhere else?).

These could become mini-projects in their own right.

How could they be done?

It's our chance to put a bit of David Lynch into Star Wars all those years after he turned down ROTJ.

The shattering Shmi was in the AOTC novel I believe. I forgot all about that! That's perfect and fits right into the OT-established visions rather than dreams.

Eye Shot First

Hahahahahaha

LMAO!!!!

Luke wasnt a little bish like darth vader.

ROTFLMAO!

Look at what the prequels hath wrought! We can actually say that and mean it