shanerjedi

Bingowings said:

Sorry but this is something of an obsession of mine, if Boba Fett can go so can those pesky medical droids :

Ok. Here's something. The data screens way high up would make more sense if there was a second level or balcony up above the existing one so those people can view the screens from up there. it would also be cool to see more rebels(wookies maybe?)

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I love the job you did with Jabba's eyes vaderios.

Bingowings said:

21B or not 21B?

I love subtle changes like this bingo. It makes ROTJ feel less like a rehash. Now if we could just replace him with something unique to this film.

This kind of follows up on Davnes 007's earlier post about brutality in the end battle of ROTJ.

I've thought how cool it would be if we see all these little hints of a conflict(destroyed rusted out AT-AT, stormie helmet on a stick,etc) but then we see these little teddy bears. People would be like "These guys? yeah right." Then, when the battle begins, we seem them becoming rabid little warriors.

Bingowings said:

As promised here is my slightly more conventional Death Pit mockup (not perfect but hopefully you get the general idea).

I've removed the bridges to nowhere and tried to make the central column look more like the lift shaft.

Hopefully more skilled hands could work this into something a bit better (and follow the rules of perspective) :

Much improved! :)

qxx said:

I personally think the whole "Everyone gather for a photo" ending (including Obi and Yoda), is a little more than campy and a very weak ending.

I truly think ROTJ should end with Vader's pyre; either a closeup of Luke's face or the behind-the-back distance shot. Cut to credits.

It's odd, the images of ROTJ's ending (hugs, ewoks, songs and ghosts) are so embedded in my brain as 'natural' but when I think about how campy and lame it is for such an epic series to conclude, I can't help but to hope an alternative ending scene is chosen.

I would say ending with the pyre would've been great had there been a sequel trilogy to follow. But as it is now, the campfire gathering ties everything up neatly.

And as annoying as Nub Nub was, it's far better than that Zamfir musical number Johnny Williams replaced it with for the SE.

I'm actually for adding little blinking lights or dotted lines to the panels to liven them up but not animation. That's overkill IMHO.

Maybe in the "Prepare to open shield!" shot add a line of small blinking lights to the panel to subtly suggest the growing armada of star destroyers encircling the planet?

Speaking of the shot of Fett's gun, would it be possible to actually lower the gun so it's pointing at Luke instead of blue sky?

As it is now it looks like a stunt guy holding the gun out there so the charge can go off.

The reason the scout has a s"shimmering" look is because he's in motion. That's an artifact of real film.

Bingowings said:

Count Qui-Gon wouldn't have a red sabre if he wasn't a Sith Lord, mute point anyways seeing as there is no way of replacing Christopher Lee with Liam Neeson.

The nearest I think we can get around this is by adding Dooku to TPM and having his formation of the Seperatist movement a reaction to the sort of narrow thinking that could get Qui-Gon killed and allow a Sith Lord to take over the government.

Yes!

mrbenja0618 said:

Timstuff said:

I really liked Magnoliafan's idea of changing Dooku's lightsaber color to keep it a secret that he's a Sith until the end. For the audience, he should come across as being a rogue Jedi / political idealist until Sideous shows up later, so his red saber should not come into play until Episode 3.

I don't think Dooku should ever be a sith lord.... Keep him as a rogue jedi throughout. Much more interesting and not as typical. I mean he does flat out tell Obi-wan that the Senate is being controlled by a sith lord. Kinda dumb to draw attention to that fact if he is a sith lord himself. Makes much more sense that he isn't, and that he leaves the republic because he knows where it's headed... Gives you this OH CRAP moment when you realize that they were fighting the good guys so to speak.

 

 

 

 

 

I love this idea.

Those colour corrections really seem to give the sets texture and enough of a lived-in look to look like actual places and not a plastic set. Great job vaderios

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Oops, I saw bingo did a cloning center one too. That looks cool. So long as it compliments the rest of the kamino colour sheme, it should be cool.

It's amazing how just toning down the brightness makes so much difference.

edit2: that window in Jango's quarters: is there a way to dial down the matte-y buildings in the background and just make it look stormy outside. As it is now, it looks too digital. There's a typhoon outside and the glass doesn't even have water spots on it.

Oh okay bingo, I see what you were getting at in your tower description. Cool.

Dear God, not more reactor talk.

Who gives a rats if it's a core or not? The main point is that whatever it was, the emperor blew up in it.

The only nitpick I have with the existing robo hand shot is the colouring of the prop forearm doesn't match the pigment of Hamill's real hand.

Bingowings said:

He wouldn't have a chance to jump to the next floor because the air friction would make him explode (besides it's a PT style superhero trick of the type that needs to be toned down in PT re-workings).

But the point about the bridges is there are no floors underneath. How can there be with the model that was shown earlier? Those bridges go to the inner shell of the tower. That's a bridge to nowhere if there ever was one.

I'm a big proponent of simplifying shots if it makes the visual look more like it was actually photographed.

In the case of that matte, the bridges and their lighting look too flat and the whole thing needs more depth. Too bad there are no shaft pics the falcon flies through that you could use. Sometimes models work better than mattes.

wait a second. If the inner shaft is the left and the outer one is the tower, then where the heck do those bridges go to?

I think the inner shaft needs to be slimmed down, the bridges taken out, and the whole thing more atmospheric and not so flat.

well the angle is kinda weird.

I like the idea of dialing down the brightness of the Kamino interiors. But I like the sterile lab environment of the overall look.

Well, one good thing has emerged from this tedious argument about lifts and shafts: the chasm matte looks too matte-y.

By the way, I agree with bingowings. It's a open chasm. SW is full of goofy things like that. You take that away and you take some of its charm and originality away too.

I don't really care if it's a shaft or a lift.

Maybe it's a shaft lift and they charge tourists a fee to ride it up to the top?

Angel Blue01 said:

shanerjedi said:

The Emperor arrives on the DS and tells Vader: "In time he will seek you out. And when he does you must bring him before me."

In the next scene with these two Palps tells Vader that Luke will come to him and Vader says: "He will come to me?". 

Wait a minute. You were just told he would come to you in the arrival scene. What the heck is Vader talking about?

 

Vader's pretty distracted in the landing scene "I sense you wish to continue your search for young Skywalker", remember?

 

 

Yeah, and then I remember Palps telling him straight up that Luke would come looking for him. So then why in the very next scene with the two does Vader act surprised: "He will come to me?!"

Both Vader and Han were emasculated as characters in ROTJ.

I have some questions:

ROTJ:

3PO states in the opening that "Lando Calrissian and poor Chewbacca never returned from this awful place".

Wait a second. Chewie shows up with Leia. So what is 3PO talking about?

The Emperor arrives on the DS and tells Vader: "In time he will seek you out. And when he does you must bring him before me."

In the next scene with these two Palps tells Vader that Luke will come to him and Vader says: "He will come to me?". 

Wait a minute. You were just told he would come to you in the arrival scene. What the heck is Vader talking about?

Eh. I don't mind the crawl to ROTS except I wish it was the crawl to AOTC instead. :p

The time wipe from republic to imperial era is a great one. Great mock ups. I love the Tie Fighter leading the wipe too.

I actually like Grievous now with that head