‘STAR WARS is DEAD!!!1! [NEW INFO] Kathleen Kennedy FIRED Ruin Johnson HATES Luke CONFIRMED SHILL’…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnFnOCAc-CM - from HelloGreedo 😃
" protect yer yub nub " lol .
The article addresses the harassment of some of the films actors and it’s director so I feel it is appropriate to post here …https://www.floor8.com/posts/12736-star-wars-rogue-one-writer-addresses-the-last-jedi-backlash
I don’t know what someone who only likes two of the movies is doing on a site called Original trilogy
I didn’t hate ROTJ when I created an account here; it’s a sentiment I came to gradually, and it solidified only in the last three years or so. Regardless, this isn’t an “OT fans only” site. There are — or at least have been — other “OD” fans like myself, and at least one SW '77 purist.
fair enough , what is your opinion on the rest of my post you initially responded to ?
I don’t know what someone who only likes two of the movies is doing on a site called Original trilogy
that kind of reminds me of …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp8_yFAABag
hence , my statement of "varying degrees " I know some people here don’t care for Return Of The Jedi , I like it , but to each their own .
I keep hearing the same RUMOR about Hayden . Where is it officially stated that he is coming back ?
I keep hearing JJ is going to tie the three trilogies together. That scares me. Im still irritated about the Darth Sidious reference in Last Jedi.
curious as to where you keep hearing this . Also , there seems to be a great division in all 3 trilogy fan bases , though I think we can all agree that the OT is universally loved by those here to varying degrees ( this site is called Original Trilogy after all ) though I think a lot of people see merit in the PT and ST to varying degrees , and have a desire to salvage them ,as evidenced by the many fan edits of them . I think the best thing for JJ and Co . would be to find that common ground and give us a story that balances all 3 trilogies .My bet is they title the movie either Balance Of The Force or The Unifying Force to bookend the trilogy . And yeah , those titles have been used elsewhere , but so has The Last Jedi.
Why?
Well why is what you’re doing instead better?
My short time as a step dad was the happiest time of my life, even if not nearly close to the most carefree time. God I miss having a family.
I was a stepdad once too , I completely understand how you feel , I feel the same way and wish I had been more mindful then and more attentive . It’s been ten years since my divorce and I still miss them .
I keep hearing the same RUMOR about Hayden . Where is it officially stated that he is coming back ?
What about when Dick Vernon raided Barry Manilow’s wardrobe?
" You mess with the bull you get the horns son !"
remove cgi Grievous and all battle droids and replace a stop motion models
If the idea is to make it look more realistic, then you’ve failed miserably. Stopmotion is not reliable for realistic VFX. It has a certain charm, but realism is not its strong suit. Of course it can do realism on a hollywood budget, but given no one does it anymore, I suspect it’s become a lot more efficient to do with CGI, and the results are usually just as good.
I am sure this person loved hearing that he “failed miserably” at something he tried to express and share . sheesh ,some people around here have the manners of a goat.
“plus, Han said in the very same scene Luke deflected three blaster bolts that “good against the remote is one thing. good against the living, is something else”, to which no one replies anything contrary, meaning that everyone agrees with what he said.” …this argument does not hold up , just because someone does not speak to ignorance does not equate to agreement , as evidenced by Kenobi’s line later asking who is the more foolish , the fool , or the fool who follows him ?
Could the Blu-Ray also be used as a source? Some of the 70mm was used for the Special Editions.
I’m going to try to use the ‘Story of’ lp as much as I can for any alternate audio because it’s easier to isolate and EQ. I’ll probably have to use the SE track for a few things so that’ll require more editing.
Tack said:
First of all, there’s very little out there to suggest the differences in optical transitions or compositing have any truth to them. I have a feeling since we were working from word of mouth for so long that some misremembered facts just kept creeping in. So, don’t take everything on the wiki seriously; it’s based on much older info and a lot of it has been disproved in recent years. In my mind, we should only consider the changes that we have definitive proof of (the missing Falcon dish and the static Emperor).I plan on using morgands1’s recording as a reference so I’m only going to add/remove things that are confirmed (audio, radar dish, hologram, rebel fleet etc).
looking forward to viewing the finished edit
I prefer this retelling
That was entertaining and gave me a few laughs , and yeah , I dig that comic adaptation for the reasons they stated and more . Always loved the Ralph McQuarrie painting on the cover of the novel too . I consider the book to be like an alternate universe story . I also think The Empire Strikes Back is the first time Luke should ever meet Vader . The old Marvel comic had them meet up face to face before Empire as well , though the duel there was a force Illusion created by Vader so I give that one a slight pass . Then the current Marvel Star Wars has Luke fight Vader in the first story arc .Kind of diminishes the impact of the Bespin Duel in my opinion .Vader is a cool character and I like some of what they did in the first story arc of the Darth Vader comic , but I think they over use him .Archie Goodwin , who wrote a lot of the early Star Wars issues in the late 70’s and Early 80’s had the right idea, in my opinion , in that Vader is too good a character to over use and doing so diminishes him .They seem to be using him almost every issue now .
from years ago in this thread…http://www.wideanglecloseup.com/starwarsaudio.html
ah,damn, seems I was totally wrong , it was C3P0 who destroyed the Death Star…http://nightflight.com/may-the-fourth-be-with-you-1977s-the-making-of-star-wars/
Yes, except for the fact that Anakin went through a decade of Jedi training, and still failed to become the Jedi, he was supposed to be. The prequels put the entire concept of believing in prophesies in doubt, and reinforce the idea, that allways in motion is the future.
Sure, but like Rey he was pretty gifted when we first met him.
I think there is a question that people aren’t asking, which is “What exactly is Jedi training”. I don’t think Jedi training is about moving rocks or lightsaber technique. I think Jedi training is more about indoctrination. The Jedi are a religion, and like most religions, you have to start them young so they understand the world they way you need them to, because Jedi in the Jedi Order are basically celebate monks. Thats why the council rejected Anakin, too old to indoctrinate, and they were right. The jedi don’t spend 10 years learning how to fight and move rocks. Their lessons are basically learning about the force and how to understand it better, but understand it the way the Jedi want them to.
You could also say that things like moving rocks or deflecting laser bolts are pretty much the Jedi traning 101, in EpII we see kids deflecting blaster bolts, they probably can lift brooms as well with not much traning. Anakin didn’t need training to use his force powers to Fly Pods. Luke didn’t get much training to learn how to grab his saber and to use the force to blow up the death star.
Some good points about Jedi training and indoctrination, and I agree with you to a certain extent. However, everything we saw in the first six films indicates that guidance and meditation are required in order to maximize a Jedi’s powers and fully exploit the Force.
The extent of Anakin’s emergent powers in TPM is his ability to see into the future and anticipate things, and only to the point that it makes him appear to have superhuman reflexes. That’s it.
The extent of Luke’s powers in ANH are a few minutes against a remote where he “reaches out” and senses it, and the trench run where he’s told to “let go” and allow the Force to guide him while targeting the exhaust port. That’s all we got from Luke in his first go-round. He didn’t blow up the Death Star with the Force.
In TLJ, Rey successfully controls a trooper’s mind and holds her own in a lightsaber duel against a much more powerful, albeit injured, opponent, despite never having used a lightsaber before.
Lukes training in Degoba wasn’t about lifting rocks, he could do that without much of an issue, but to understand why he could lift rocks. What he needed to learn about the force and how it connects to the universe.
Luke failed to extract his X-Wing from the swamp and didn’t complete his training, and while he demonstrated some impressive maneuvers in his fight with his father, Vader toyed with him until he got his hand cut off and was forced to surrender. Whether that was a function of a lack of combat training or lack of proper meditation—probably both—he wasn’t adequately prepared.
After receiving a few lessons, Rey assaulted her teacher and got the drop on him with a lightsaber, then fought Snoke’s guards alongside Kylo and lifted a bunch of boulders like they weren’t even there, thus saving the day.
Is Rey faster and more powerful than Luke and Anakin? sure, but I don’t see this being without precident.
Not without precedent, but without training?
Rey gets her trainig the same way you teach a child to swim, throw them in the deep end. Kylo’s probing of her mind taught her how to fight back, which taught her how to influence that storm troopers mind. She’s as powerful as the narrative needs her to be. It would have been nice for her to stay longer on the island, sure but I think she gets everything she needs to know for the narrative.
This is the crux of the problem. She’s not a character with an arc; she’s floating along and being handed her abilities by the universe in order to suit the narrative. No work, no progression, no setbacks, no loss. It’s a boring hero’s journey.
He didn’t blow up the Death Star with the Force ? Did we see the same movie ?!..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKqcfO31is
He uses the force in the most abstract sense. The “trust your feelings” sense.
It’s not as if he guides the torpedoes into the exhaust port using telekinesis.
"use the Force Luke "
Yes, except for the fact that Anakin went through a decade of Jedi training, and still failed to become the Jedi, he was supposed to be. The prequels put the entire concept of believing in prophesies in doubt, and reinforce the idea, that allways in motion is the future.
Sure, but like Rey he was pretty gifted when we first met him.
I think there is a question that people aren’t asking, which is “What exactly is Jedi training”. I don’t think Jedi training is about moving rocks or lightsaber technique. I think Jedi training is more about indoctrination. The Jedi are a religion, and like most religions, you have to start them young so they understand the world they way you need them to, because Jedi in the Jedi Order are basically celebate monks. Thats why the council rejected Anakin, too old to indoctrinate, and they were right. The jedi don’t spend 10 years learning how to fight and move rocks. Their lessons are basically learning about the force and how to understand it better, but understand it the way the Jedi want them to.
You could also say that things like moving rocks or deflecting laser bolts are pretty much the Jedi traning 101, in EpII we see kids deflecting blaster bolts, they probably can lift brooms as well with not much traning. Anakin didn’t need training to use his force powers to Fly Pods. Luke didn’t get much training to learn how to grab his saber and to use the force to blow up the death star.
Some good points about Jedi training and indoctrination, and I agree with you to a certain extent. However, everything we saw in the first six films indicates that guidance and meditation are required in order to maximize a Jedi’s powers and fully exploit the Force.
The extent of Anakin’s emergent powers in TPM is his ability to see into the future and anticipate things, and only to the point that it makes him appear to have superhuman reflexes. That’s it.
The extent of Luke’s powers in ANH are a few minutes against a remote where he “reaches out” and senses it, and the trench run where he’s told to “let go” and allow the Force to guide him while targeting the exhaust port. That’s all we got from Luke in his first go-round. He didn’t blow up the Death Star with the Force.
In TLJ, Rey successfully controls a trooper’s mind and holds her own in a lightsaber duel against a much more powerful, albeit injured, opponent, despite never having used a lightsaber before.
Lukes training in Degoba wasn’t about lifting rocks, he could do that without much of an issue, but to understand why he could lift rocks. What he needed to learn about the force and how it connects to the universe.
Luke failed to extract his X-Wing from the swamp and didn’t complete his training, and while he demonstrated some impressive maneuvers in his fight with his father, Vader toyed with him until he got his hand cut off and was forced to surrender. Whether that was a function of a lack of combat training or lack of proper meditation—probably both—he wasn’t adequately prepared.
After receiving a few lessons, Rey assaulted her teacher and got the drop on him with a lightsaber, then fought Snoke’s guards alongside Kylo and lifted a bunch of boulders like they weren’t even there, thus saving the day.
Is Rey faster and more powerful than Luke and Anakin? sure, but I don’t see this being without precident.
Not without precedent, but without training?
Rey gets her trainig the same way you teach a child to swim, throw them in the deep end. Kylo’s probing of her mind taught her how to fight back, which taught her how to influence that storm troopers mind. She’s as powerful as the narrative needs her to be. It would have been nice for her to stay longer on the island, sure but I think she gets everything she needs to know for the narrative.
This is the crux of the problem. She’s not a character with an arc; she’s floating along and being handed her abilities by the universe in order to suit the narrative. No work, no progression, no setbacks, no loss. It’s a boring hero’s journey.
He didn’t blow up the Death Star with the Force ? Did we see the same movie ?!..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKqcfO31is
lol ! good one ! or he has been out dancing amongst the stars …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOUW-sALp4s
that looks fantastic ! I am pleased to see you will be using the Story of The Empire Strikes back lp as a source , Waaaay back in 2007 user Movealong was kind enough to send me a dvd of his project that synched the movie to the Lp with stills and transitions and I was able to hear some of those audio differences for the first time , such as when Han is being lowered into the Carbon Freeze and Vader says , “Begin !”
Mark is a fantastic performer ! I would love to hear him do a duet with Billie Dee Williams !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqNXVQds4rc Splinter Of The Mind’s eye review .
yup , and this fan edit has become my go to version of the prequels for watching the saga in Machete order . I like it on it’s own as well .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1AcBBpjkDg The Man Behind The Mask does awesome edits too .
And this is juicy… found it just now - https://movieweb.com/star-wars-9-richard-e-grant-grand-admiral-thrawn/
They state hot and steamy rumor in the article . hot and steamy ? like a pile of Shite ? and I love thrawn as much as the next guy , but why does this new incarnation of him have the Mcdonald’s golden arches on his forehead ? Still , I think it would be cool to see Thrawn in live action , and for some reason , I always thought James Bond era Pierce Brosnan would have been perfect for the role .
I have to agree , the public announcement of the cast on the official site is not a spoiler .
