“I’m condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them.” Think I saw this coming a few episodes ago in the conversation between Luthen and Saw , which is what I alluded to in my previous post . I don’t care though ,as this was brilliant acting this week ! (Although , I’m not 100 percent sure I’m right about that plot point, but looking more likely to me now ) ,will have to keep watching to see how it plays out . Personally , based on this week’s episode alone , I think this show deserves an Emmy award . Best acting I have seen in Star Wars ANYTHING ! Not sure how they will top this episode going forward , but I am here for the ride . I was on the edge of my seat the whole episode . Bravo !
This series might be the single best piece of Star Wars media ever made and I’m not exaggerating.
^ agreed ! and one of the best in ANY genre in my opinion .
Thank you for sharing ! Lots of stuff I never saw or knew before and I have been a fan since the days of the OT . Took me down a rabbit hole for a few hours as I ended up watching all the parts in the series .
don’t know if that was the implication , but wow ! I never considered Kino Loy . It would be one hell of a twist if Kino was a contact of Luthen’s on the inside and he was play acting all along .
" We need the Empire to help , we need them angry , we need them coming down hard ." - Luthen to Saw in the previous episode . Well , maybe a red herring or grasping at straws here , but we never saw those 100 prisoners get eliminated , nor did Andor’s group of prisoners .They only heard about it from others . I wonder if Luthen has a contact in the prison . The medic who euthenized Ulaf maybe ? perhaps the guy who has been signing across the way ? Even Melshi perhaps ?
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I remember reading somewhere as a kid , I think it was the ESB storybook , that Dagobah did not appear on any star charts or maps and that the Force guided Luke there . Based on Luke saying something was familiar about the place in the movie , I assumed we would see him taken there for a brief time as a baby in the prequels ,but still thought Yoda just went into exile there like Kenobi did on Tatooine ,and that they both never always lived in those places . I do remember though ,that there was a piece of art that was published in the early to mid 90s ,that depicted a young Yoda being trained by a serpent like alien on Dagobah . This was before the prequels were being made ,so apparently ,there were some who thought what the op mused about .
Friendly reminder that discussing the politics presented in-universe is fine but real world politics is not allowed.
Noted , and also noted that I am not the one who brought that word into the conversation . Two wrongs don’t make a right however , so apologies on my part . Moving on , I thought episode 7 was great , though I had a hard time believing a certain character got so careless after everything that has happened so far . Kept thinking about how a one could learn to think quickly on their feet … Take some cues from Lando . Specifically , a scene in the original Marvel Star Wars comic issue 51 ,where Lando bribes some Stormtroopers with some " Narco Spice " to get them off his tail . I know , the comic has a different tone from the show …just struck me funny . I also like the way the director handled the shot compositions …felt very Star Wars to me .
Interesting ideas RogueLeader . I think the Last Jedi could easily be made to stand alone in an edit . All one needs to do is add the scene from Tros , with the falcon and all the citizens of the galaxy swooping in with a thousand ships to the end of TLJ . this way the audience can infer that the galaxy finally rose up in response to Luke’s actions at the battle of Crait. I think it would be easy to infer that the first order and Kylo were defeated and peace reigns once more in the galaxy . Could put a bit of text at the end to drive it home , but I think the audience wouldn’t need that much hand holding to get it . I personally consider TLJ the end of the Skywalker saga and that’s how I rationalize it in my head canon . There were things I enjoyed about Tros , but it went too far off the rails for me . I just consider it a fun popcorn movie and try to shut my brain off when I watch it .
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Thank you , and thank you for adding that shot in with the others . Wow , the 2020 raw BD looks almost monochrome !They put in more detail at the expense of a lifeless image , and I can see how skewed the raw 2011 colors are now ,too magneta and the haze around the planet looks purple . I can better see what you were going for now . Looks great !
can you post a screen cap of the raw 2011 blu ray as it was initially released for further comparison ? The reason I ask is that that release had oversaturated colors and I felt the official 2020/ Disney plus release tried to compensate by swinging the pendulum a bit too far in the opposite direction …looks too faded . Of the three pics you posted , Adywans regrade of the 2011 looks perfect to me ,though the Rem 2020 in the middle has a bit more detail and crispness . Just trying to give some constructive feedback . I have not seen the 2011 official blu ray in a long time so would like to see an image of it alongside these to compare the saturation levels , color differences etc . This sounds like a worth while project and thank you for sharing .
This is a thread for celebrating and discussing the contributions of the people who helped bring George’s vision to life ,especially the original film ,as well as other installments . I will kick it off with this, Gloria Katz and her husband Willard Huyck , who helped polish the dialogue and inject humor and many iconic and quotable lines into the first film
Still digging this show …probably the deepest Star Wars has ever been . Just wish they would have kept showing these 3 episode arcs all at once .
Just watched episode 4 …damn ! This show is awesome! Although, I have read a lot of articles saying there is no fan service in this series, I have seen a lot of it so far , but not the typical stuff for the most part, rather ,a lot of stuff drawn from the early EU stories .if you watch with subtitles, it’s even more apparent. In the case of the most recent episode, there’s also mention of a collector of things who is very similar to a character in the 2016 novel Bloodline
Hmmm , not sure I have a preferred order as it depends on my mood but I am currently thinking …
- Rogue One ,Blu Ray or dvd depending on which display I am watching on
- Star Wars , any theatrical version I currently have access to , Despecialized , GOUT , 92 Widescreen VHS
3.The Empire Strikes Back , same sources as 2
3.Vader’s Memories Fan edit , but stop right before the credits roll as the cabana music is out of place with the dark electronic score used throughout the movie …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1AcBBpjkDg
4.Return Of The Jedi , same sources as 2 and 3
5.The Force Awakens Blu Ray or DVD depending on which display I am watching on
6.Solo A Star Wars Story dvd or blu ray
7.The Last Jedi ,dvd or blu ray
8.This motion comic which uses the comic art by fan comics artist Andrew Winegarner and the fan audio drama /script reading of the Duel Of The Fates script by Colin Treverrow …https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLthocxgVxm_yDA4lO355UzA-fgHvZqvNn
I will probably put Andor at the beginning when the show is complete .May even wait until then to do this watch order .
" Well, there’s a price on my head. If I don’t pay off Jabba the Hutt, I’m a dead man " …I would say there is fear there .
" No I know exactly what they mean. While the OT is very clear cut with the Rebels vs Empire conflict and frequently lighthearted, the PT has a more complex war where the ‘bad guys’ have terrible military leaders but are mostly made up of systems seeking self-determination, while the rise of Palpatine shows how dictators can manipulate a conflict to gain power. These kind of adult themes were completely absent from the OT. "
Gotta strongly disagree on these points ^ … while those systems in the PT are made up of systems seeking self determination ,we are merely told this and not shown it ,we never see these disaffected ordinary citizens in those movies . Those disaffected citizens are shown in the OT…they are the members of the rebellion who joined to fight the tyranny and oppression of the Empire as a consequence of those events .I wouldn’t say those adult themes are completely absent from the OT ,for instance " How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy? Governor Tarkin: The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line ,fear of this battle station " Clearly showing a dictator manipulating a conflict or event to STAY in power ,which has real world implications in our “adult” world.
anyway , I am enjoying Andor and am glad to see the show delving into these disaffected citizens and a deeper look at the genesis of the rebellion .
If they go animated on EU novels, I’d still like to see them in the style of the amazing work on Spiderverse.
Deeper and not so cartoonish.
I’d be down with that too !
At this point , I just want to see animated adaptations of the best of the EU . Release them under the Legends banner same as the books. Have Mark Hamill do the Luke voice over and do it in the style of the DC animated universe.
Random thought / observation …nearly every prequel rewrite or idea I come across still uses characters that were created for the movies that came out between 1999 and 2005 . Darth Maul , Grievous , Dooku , Qui Gon, etc . Be nice to see a rewrite or idea using original characters as well as the ones from the OT that would logically carry over …
Thanks , will do that soon , as well as give a listen to the hal 9000 interview !
can someone upload this?can´t watch it…😦
The first episode is now on youtube , here you go …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hmp5-VT6cs also , if you go to the Vice TV website and look under shows , you can view the other 2 episodes there , just choose the free pass option , which gives you 30 minutes viewing time . I know the episodes are a bit longer but you get up to 3 free passes and you don’t have to sign up . The way I did it was to watch 30 minutes of an episode and then use another pass and forward the video to where I left off . Did this on separate days for each episode . I am guessing the other 2 episodes will be on youtube in the first and last part of August as well . I am enjoying it for the most part , even if the editing style of this documentary series is too over the top , Hokey and Tabloidish . That ironic humor cliche of cutting back and forth using short clips of the films for " witty " effect is way overdone these days in my opinion and I roll my eyes whenever I encounter it . I do like that there is more unseen footage and artwork snippets being shown though and between this and the ILM documentary on Disney Plus , it seems like we are getting more of the complete story on the making of the films . The Disney documentary series does the "witty " editing cliche a bit too , but the Vice series beats you over the head with it . I also didn’t appreciate how they delved into Carrie Fisher’s drug problems in the Empire episode of the Vice series either …I feel it was inappropriate and unnecessary . The Vice series needs to tone it down as the tone reads as, " Look , oh my ! such a scandal ! " I think a lot of that is down to the narrator .In spite of all that , I still think it is worth watching for the interviews with the creators of the OT and previously unknown info .
this is a fun listen/watch …went with the youtube option …great choices for Anakin …Val Kilmer and River Phoenix especially
just watched the first 2 episodes and loving it so far , like adywan said , lots of previously unseen stuff . Was surprised to learn the actual story of the design of the Falcon straight from Joe Johnston …for years I had read behind the scenes accounts in making of books , film magazines etc ,that it was based on a hamburger with an olive to the side that George Lucas was eating . The Steve Sansweet book Star Wars From Concept To Screen To Collectible was one of those sources .Turns out there was a hamburger mentioned in regards to the look of the finished model , but only after the final design was completed . And while it is great to see documentary footage and the craftsman being interviewed , Disney really needs to do the right thing and make the work of those academy award winners available and honor them by putting the original theatrical cut on the platform for all to enjoy .
glad you see it too JackNapier , it is in nearly every thread . Some seriously bold asshats all over indeed ! Been getting out of control lately .