screams in the void

And I agree that the set up for the state of the galaxy in the sequel trilogy was poorly set up . It should have been explained in the movies , but there is a book that came out in 2016 called Bloodline by Claudia Gray that does a good job explaining it . It’s set about 6 years before TFA and grew out of an animated short film that was intended to be shown as a prologue to TFA . Man , I’d still like to see that animated short ! Thd book was Really good though. Probably the best book in the new Canon that I have read.

I’m willing to bet he was playing his cards close to the vest in that interview and they are already working on it . This film will be the big event movie that ties the streaming shows together and I am sure we will see Luke and his Jedi students in their prime against the forces of Thrawn . They hinted at it in this week’s Mandalorian when Bo Katan told Djin Jarin that he taught his apprentice well and he responded with " He didn’t learn that from me ." We saw Luke start to build his academy in Book Of Boba Fett and Filoni has said Grogu was away training with Luke for 2 years now . The Ai and deep fake technology is improving every day so my guess is that Luke will look even better by the time this movie hits . I’m looking forward to it .

to the people that are butthurt because " Rey took away from Luke’s story " …the sequel trilogy was never intended to be Luke’s story , even when George talked about as far back as interviews from the 1980s , he said if it got made it would be about passing the baton to the next generation and Luke would be in his 60s . Rey is that next generation . I love a lot of the EU/Legends material myself , but it got over bloated towards they end , enough to where they had to put a dramitis personae listing of all the characters at the start of each book . And Luke didn’t exactly have a happy ending in the Legends material either . So what if Rey is getting her own movie ya whiny snowflakes , it should be pretty obvious by now to anybody who has been watching the streaming shows ,that we will see Luke in his prime again , leading a Jedi order , which we already saw him start to establish in The Book Of Boba Fett . The AI technology gets better every day and I would be willing to bet they have already started work on it . So , both the story of Luke’s Jedi order and Rey’s Jedi order will be told and can exist side by side…https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-is-dave-filoni-making-an-heir-to-the-empire-movie

Definitely ! And the extension of this scene that was deleted , and can be found on the 2011 Blu Ray extras , has Lawrence Kasdan’s writing stamp all over it . Whenever I watch it , I can picture Indiana Jones and Marion Ravenwood having a similar back and forth .

the existence of realtors implies the existence of faketors .

As much as I don’t think it was a good idea basing all of these shows on the Marvel model of everything connecting , and I thought this show worked better as a standalone like the first season ,it is what it is now .

           Disney has been reporting on wanting to get the movies right in the future an there is one thing they could do that would be a cash cow for them ...all of this is obviously leading up to a reworking of the Thrawn trilogy , so I think that should result in a big event movie on the big screen .      

                                         I have a feeling it was the Imperial Supercommandos seen in Rebels and based on McQuarrie's artwork , that freed Gideon and placed evidence to implicate the Mandalorians of a crime . Probably uner orders from Thrawn . Seems like something he would do . Favreau and Filoni have said that Grogu was away training with Luke for 2 years and we saw the new Jedi temple being built at the start of his training .

I would love to see a battle betweeen Hundreds of Jedi and Mandalorians / super commandos on screen . It would be like taking some of the earliest lore , especially the bit from the ESB novel about Fett’s armor being the kind worn by a group of evil warriors defeated by the Jedi Knights during the Clone Wars , only shown now in the post OT era ,rather than the Clone Wars era. It’s something I thought we would see in the prequels and many sources in the 80s and early 90s speculated on as well . Plus , with the cloning technology being a subplot in The Mandalorian ,it would make for an awesome reworking of The Clone Wars or even The Second Clone War if done right . And what better villain to bring to the big screen than Thrawn for an epic event ?

The original Star Wars trilogy is not the only one that never had its theatrical version available on dvd in anamorphic widescreen . No , there is another …Conan The Barbarian 1982 . The original DVD release from the late 90s is letterboxed non anamorphic and very grainy .Reminds me of the GOUT. The releases from 2002 onwards have added scenes and an altered ending ,which ,while those scenes were originally shot at the time of filming , are not the theatrical release . I prefer the original ending where Conan goes of his own agency to kill Thulsa Doom without having to be led there . CTB 82 is one of my favorite films outside of Star Wars and the original theatrical deserves a proper modern HD release as well .

and the deleted cantina scene with the dialogue in question was first released to the general public on the 1998 Star Wars Behind The Magic C-ROM , which I still have with sadly no machine to play it on anymore . I know there are emulators , but I don’t wish to go through the hassle .

Just watched episode 3 of The Mandalorian season 3 . This one was a mixed bag . Started out strong with great action and then in the middle it switched to follow other characters in what looked and played like a bad fan film with an enormous budget. I mean, yeah , the establishing shots and the incorporation of some of Ralph Mcquarrie’s art were great , but I kept getting distracted by the bad lighting on the actors and the bad framing in some shots . The photon fizzles were ridiculous too …light lollipops , really ? Then there was the ending with a cosplayer cult initiation .

I did like the production art at the end though and it looks like they missed the mark in capturing the look and feel of it . I would like to see an animated show that looks just like the production art now . Overall I would rate this episode a 3 out of 10 . And I have to agree with others on here that the forced medical procedures by the New Republic were fucked up .like a twisted version of conversion therapy . I can’t buy that these were the same people who fought a rebellion against the Empire . I don’t know who directed this episode , but I hope it’s a one off and gets better . Has me worried for how they will handle Thrawn when he inevitably shows up , either here or the Ahsoka series .

Another criticism I have is that in modern Star Wars , even the sequel trilogy , which I mostly enjoyed up until TROS ,except for the Canto Bight stuff in TLJ ,is that the aliens don’t feel alien enough . That’s something I appreciated about the original trilogy …Ben Burrt came up with all those wonderful alien languages that had strange sound effects layered underneath and subtitles were added for them . ( they mostly dropped the ball on that in the prequels too ) . Now we get aliens with hillbilly accents speaking English ( or Basic , galactic standard ,what have you ) .

Yeah , Admiral Ackbar spoke English ,but it had some nice guttural and reverb effects added to it which helped retain an alien quality to it . The Mon Cal in this episode could have used more of that .The aliens in recent shows have seemed more to me like Star Trek aliens in the way they are portrayed onscreen , sadly . even the legacy ones .

I think comparing this show to Andor is apples to oranges . Andor is the more intellectual political drama/thriller , Mando is more pulpy adventure /space western . This episode felt like filler before the meat of the story gets told this season . Not my favorite episode thus far , but I had fun with it anyway . It probably would have been better if those 2 episodes from BOBF were used to open the season here instead though . As for alien accents , I think the problem started way back in The Phantom Menace and they should have taken their cues from the original trilogy and had Ben Burrt come up with alien languages for all of the alien characters with subtitles . Yeah , There was a lot of dialogue for those characters in the prequels , but Jabba had a substantial role in ROTJ and that technique worked for him . They should have stuck with that approach throughout the whole saga . Also , in regards to this weeks Mandalorian episode , I’m still wondering why Swamp Thing made an appearance .

awesome website puzosep ! Thank you for the link , should add this to the list of Star Wars internet rabbit holes !

What I most disliked about the old EU , was the super weapon of the week trope . Fortunately the creators of the EU later realized it was getting stale and changed things up a bit .

There is also the novelization of The Empire Strikes Back by Donald F. Glut , which came out in 1980 , several years before that Marvel comic was released . It described Boba Fett thusly , “He was dressed in a weapon-covered, armored spacesuit, the kind worn by a group of evil warriors defeated by the Jedi Knights during the Clone Wars.”

Back in the day , I took this as gospel ,and always imagined that the Mandalorians would be uniform in appearance ,rather than having so many different colors and variations ,as is the case today . When the Death Watch first appeared in The Clone Wars animated series ,that is largely how I imagined them . I think it’s also plausible that Lucas read that description in the novel , or perhaps more plausible that Filoni brought it to his attention during story meetings .

I posted this in a thread I made a few months back , but having been made aware /reminded that this excellent thread/resource exists , it seems even more appropriate here ,as the article I linked to is one I did not see in the original post here … Gloria Katz and her husband Willard Huyck , who helped polish the dialogue and inject humor and many iconic and quotable lines into the first film http://episodenothing.blogspot.com/2018/12/gloria-katz-1942-2018-writer-who-gave.html

Superweapon VII said:

Emre1601 said:

I’d love to see that art of the serpent creature training Yoda!

Your wish is my command.

yup , that’s the one ! nice find .

will probably pop in my 1992 letterbox vhs and watch it on one of my CRT TVs

“I’m condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them.” Think I saw this coming a few episodes ago in the conversation between Luthen and Saw , which is what I alluded to in my previous post . I don’t care though ,as this was brilliant acting this week ! (Although , I’m not 100 percent sure I’m right about that plot point, but looking more likely to me now ) ,will have to keep watching to see how it plays out . Personally , based on this week’s episode alone , I think this show deserves an Emmy award . Best acting I have seen in Star Wars ANYTHING ! Not sure how they will top this episode going forward , but I am here for the ride . I was on the edge of my seat the whole episode . Bravo !

jedi_bendu said:

This series might be the single best piece of Star Wars media ever made and I’m not exaggerating.

^ agreed ! and one of the best in ANY genre in my opinion .

Thank you for sharing ! Lots of stuff I never saw or knew before and I have been a fan since the days of the OT . Took me down a rabbit hole for a few hours as I ended up watching all the parts in the series .

don’t know if that was the implication , but wow ! I never considered Kino Loy . It would be one hell of a twist if Kino was a contact of Luthen’s on the inside and he was play acting all along .

" We need the Empire to help , we need them angry , we need them coming down hard ." - Luthen to Saw in the previous episode . Well , maybe a red herring or grasping at straws here , but we never saw those 100 prisoners get eliminated , nor did Andor’s group of prisoners .They only heard about it from others . I wonder if Luthen has a contact in the prison . The medic who euthenized Ulaf maybe ? perhaps the guy who has been signing across the way ? Even Melshi perhaps ?

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I remember reading somewhere as a kid , I think it was the ESB storybook , that Dagobah did not appear on any star charts or maps and that the Force guided Luke there . Based on Luke saying something was familiar about the place in the movie , I assumed we would see him taken there for a brief time as a baby in the prequels ,but still thought Yoda just went into exile there like Kenobi did on Tatooine ,and that they both never always lived in those places . I do remember though ,that there was a piece of art that was published in the early to mid 90s ,that depicted a young Yoda being trained by a serpent like alien on Dagobah . This was before the prequels were being made ,so apparently ,there were some who thought what the op mused about .

Tobar said:

Friendly reminder that discussing the politics presented in-universe is fine but real world politics is not allowed.

Noted , and also noted that I am not the one who brought that word into the conversation . Two wrongs don’t make a right however , so apologies on my part . Moving on , I thought episode 7 was great , though I had a hard time believing a certain character got so careless after everything that has happened so far . Kept thinking about how a one could learn to think quickly on their feet … Take some cues from Lando . Specifically , a scene in the original Marvel Star Wars comic issue 51 ,where Lando bribes some Stormtroopers with some " Narco Spice " to get them off his tail . I know , the comic has a different tone from the show …just struck me funny . I also like the way the director handled the shot compositions …felt very Star Wars to me .

Interesting ideas RogueLeader . I think the Last Jedi could easily be made to stand alone in an edit . All one needs to do is add the scene from Tros , with the falcon and all the citizens of the galaxy swooping in with a thousand ships to the end of TLJ . this way the audience can infer that the galaxy finally rose up in response to Luke’s actions at the battle of Crait. I think it would be easy to infer that the first order and Kylo were defeated and peace reigns once more in the galaxy . Could put a bit of text at the end to drive it home , but I think the audience wouldn’t need that much hand holding to get it . I personally consider TLJ the end of the Skywalker saga and that’s how I rationalize it in my head canon . There were things I enjoyed about Tros , but it went too far off the rails for me . I just consider it a fun popcorn movie and try to shut my brain off when I watch it .