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#1491822
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Has anyone done a marathon of all the "official " films and shows ?
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Darth Retcon said:

I did a Star Wars film marathon not so long ago. An used The Holiday Special and the two Ewok movies for when I really needed to get to sleep!

But not with the series too.

What is the running time for that, the 2003 Clone Wars series and 2008 TCW film included?
 

And safe bus trip. May your legroom be plenty, your set comfortable, and have no imperial entanglements (annoying loud kids!)

Thank you . Not sure of the runtime for that . I may just do the 2003 Clone Wars as part of my watch , as it has a runtime of about 2 hours , rather than all 7 seasons of The Clone Wars . Though I might slot in choice episodes of it .

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#1491713
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Has anyone done a marathon of all the "official " films and shows ?
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Just wondering if anyone has done a marathon of all of the canon films and shows .If so , please share your experiences here . I have never done this myself , but saw a post that was made on facebook , right after Book Of Boba Fett ended , that the watch time for all of it was around 6 days and 21 hours . Bit more now with Kenobi .I have a long bus trip coming up ( about 31 hours each way ) so might see about trying to at least start one for both legs of the trip . I don’t know if I will be able to continue it when I get home though .

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#1486259
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<strong>Tales of the Jedi</strong> (animated series) - General Discussion Thread * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Yeah , I was disappointed to hear this is focusing on prequel area characters too . Although , Dave Filoni is helming the show and he played a large part in bringing a lot of EU characters and concepts back into "canon " . He has also been known to play his cards close to the vest and not revealing things to the public and sometimes his own crew . I don’t think he would have used that specific title , that specific logo for this show without some kind of connection . Going by the original Tales Of The Jedi comics , the sprit of Exar Kun is still trapped in the temples of Yavin 4 in the time period this is set in …while things probably won’t play out the way they did in the EU , I could see an eventual reworking of some of the events of the Jedi academy trilogy or I Jedi , where Exar’s spirit is discovered and dealt with ,being transposed to this time , with it being these prequel era Jedi that have to deal with him .Thrawn was brought back into the current stories , so I think anything can happen .I would like to see this series get more than one season and end up heading this route and leading to something bigger . I am selective in my reading of current Star Wars books and comics and not fully up to date on "canon " , has Exar Kun been referenced at all in the modern materials ?

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#1483243
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ESB-X (the eXtended version) (WIP)
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kg1977 said:

screams in the void said:

I am curious as to your plans to incorporate the radio drama scenes into ESB , especially the scene of Han and Luke in the tent and the opening scene . Do you have footage in mind for this or plan to shoot some of your own ?

This will be a fresh shoot since we have a full han hoth outfit and most of luke hoth, thinking alot of over the shoulder shot but will do some face ons. Plan to use deep fake or simular. We have Hamil for the voice acting here obviously and some lines from Harrison, but will need to do some audio work on solo and get and some lines for him as perry is good but not Harrison 😃 and deep fake audio for the lines if not happy with results. There are actually some talented people out there on fivr doing Solo lines so will have to see. But yea, will have to be shot in winter so probably one of the later scenes to be honest since it is spring in my location now.If this scene does not happen it’s not the end of the world as it is not a crucial scene…although does have some good lines

cool , I hope you are able to pull it off as it would be cool to see , as would the opening space battle from the radio drama

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#1483126
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Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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LexX said:

screams in the void said:

I watched the 2006 GOUT version of Return Of The Jedi yesterday and noticed something I never caught after decades of viewing this film …not a visual thing , but an audio one …at the start of the scene where Threepio tells his story in the Ewok village , a few notes of the Imperial March are played on Ewok Drums . Who’s side were they really on ? Their stomachs apparently .

I don’t think it’s supposed to be “live music”, it’s just part of the score to set the scene.

Perhaps , but while they don’t show Ewoks playing it on screen , the sound is definitely that of tribal drums playing a few notes of the march .

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#1482996
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Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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I watched the 2006 GOUT version of Return Of The Jedi yesterday and noticed something I never caught after decades of viewing this film …not a visual thing , but an audio one …at the start of the scene where Threepio tells his story in the Ewok village , a few notes of the Imperial March are played on Ewok Drums . Who’s side were they really on ? Their stomachs apparently .

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#1482779
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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yotsuya said:

And face it, Threepio was pretty comic in the OT.

Face it , Threepio’s comedy in the OT was actually funny and played off the other characters in service of the story .The prequels had him resorting to bad puns and quips …" I’m beside myself ." " This is such a drag . " , " What do you mean naked ? My parts are showing ? Oh my !" etc I did like some of the early episodes of Clone Wars where Threepio was teamed up with Jar Jar though , as he was annoying ,even to Threepio . I felt that show handled Jar Jar better than the films overall .

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#1480432
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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CarboniteSolo said:

Thanks screams in the void, but I think some things need to happen in the Prequels, other scenes could go and be replaced.

Episode II would be showing more of Anakin’s fighting and piloting skills, being more of a good friend, and have more of a personal relationship with Kenobi, hinting toward the end that this dark side lingers inside him.

I would also have it where it would be more of Kenobi’s fault for not letting Anakin get to his mother on time, and feeding this anger toward his teacher and friend.

I do think there are scenes that are good for the overall story and others, like Jar Jar and the Gungans should have been omitted and focused more on Anakin or Kenobi’s character.

I loved Shmi Skywalker, the pod race and Darth Maul, but Jar Jar and the slapstick comedy had to go, it was a waste of film (not for kiddos though)

The first film should have had a more serious tone with less comedy.

“I would also have it where it would be more of Kenobi’s fault for not letting Anakin get to his mother on time, and feeding this anger toward his teacher and friend.” Great idea that ! and I agree that ," The first film should have had a more serious tone with less comedy."

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#1480427
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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I agree they were poorly written , though I do enjoy some aspects of them . Your ideas seem interesting CarboniteSolo , though when I read them it seemed like they rely on leaving too much of the prequels intact when it comes to the antagonism between Obi - Wan and Anakin . If anything , the prequels need to play up , " And he was a good friend " from the original film and actually show us more of their friendship before things fall apart .One angle I was ok with in the prequels was Anakin as a slave , but thought it was a missed opportunity and he could have showed more resentment to the Jedi council for not helping end it and free his mom as well as all the slaves . It was something that was foreshadowed in TPM but never really followed up on . I have mentioned this elewhere , but I think him going beore the council and saying , " How can we call ourselves guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy , when we turn a blind eye to one of the most serious injustices ? " It would have gone a long way to making his turn more believable . I think you are right though , we should have started with Anakin early on . I would take it a step further and have him be around Luke’s age in the original film .Also , go with things implied from the original film more . Have Anakin start out living with the Lars on Tatooine as an ace starship mechanic and pilot . Have the clones be the Mandalorian Supercommandos from the early design phase of TE
SB . Maybe start the first film as a mirror of the opening of the original and have Kenobi fleeing from a Dreadnaught class cruiser like the ones in Zahn’s Katana Fleet , as he is fleeing it , the Dreadnaught drops a Mandalorian Starfighter out of its hangar and it pursues Kenobi to the surface of Tatooine . Kenobi’s ship takes a hit and he crash lands near the Lars Moisture Farm …they see smoke on the horizon and rush to help and the story is set in motion .Later on , reveal to the audience that a slave trade is happening on Tatooine . Maybe Anakin and The Lars family are indentured servants to one of the slave traders and it may give more plot motivation for Anakin’s turn later , among other factors .

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#1480041
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The Empire Strikes Back - Expanded Edition (Work in Progress)
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This looks awesome Bobson , can’t wait to see the finished edit ! I started my own edit a few years back using some of the available resources at the time that conformed to the order of scenes in the Marvel comics adaptation .Only got as far as the first issue , but now I am feeling inspired to continue . Love your coloring and edits !

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#1480036
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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Yeah , maybe an amendment to the start of that thread along the lines , Thank you George , for giving us the original Movies we fell in love with and then go into the rest of it . It’s also worth mentioning , that in the initial petitions , George is shown appreciation for his efforts to evolve the saga , “While many of us appreciate and enjoy George Lucas’ creative evolution of the classic Star Wars films via the various releases of the ever-changing ‘Special Editions’, we respectfully state that there is tremendous importance in the original theatrical prints of the Star Wars Trilogy.” This info can be found at the top of the home page to this site and I highly recommend it to new members as well as those who may have misinformed ideas as to this sites purpose …https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy-OriginalTrilogy-coms-enduring-goal-How-you-can-help/id/90534

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#1480030
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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would like to point out that you are correct about HelloGreedo’s community being nice and that he did change his views on the prequels . That said , he still advocates for a high quality release of the original unaltered trilogy and has reflected the sentiments of many here over the years …it wouldn’t be an issue if he had done this . Yeah , there has been some vitriol directed unfairly to admirers of the prequels , but It’s a false equivalency to compare the revisionist history thread that Jason started to those who hurl the vitriol to the prequels .

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#1480024
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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Stardust1138 said:

screams in the void said:

That’s just like , uh , you’re opinion . Dude , you are literally commenting on a forum which was created with the expressed purpose of preserving his original vision , as well as that of his numerous collaborators who helped bring that vision to life and who’s work is sadly swept under the rug in favor of his numerous revisions …like those commentaries you mentioned . Kasdan not withstanding ,as those were snippets culled from other interviews . I don’t need a video ,or you , to tell me "how to watch Star Wars " , I know how to watch Star Wars , I load the tape into my VCR ,The disc into my DVD player or cue up some of the wonderful preservations created here .

That’s what I mean. If we’re supposed to hold ourselves to the standards of the purpose of the original intentions of the forum than we should just as much respect and understand George Lucas as we do his collaborators.

No , we shouldn’t and we don’t , because George didn’t respect his collaborators enough to preserve the work they did for future generations to enjoy , he only gave a disingenuous effort in the form of the 2006 dvd which was transferred from an already out of date laserdisc from the 90s and not anamorphic in presentation . And that was mostly due to the efforts of this site .This is why we fight .

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#1479976
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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That’s just like , uh , you’re opinion . Dude , you are literally commenting on a forum which was created with the expressed purpose of preserving his original vision , as well as that of his numerous collaborators who helped bring that vision to life and who’s work is sadly swept under the rug in favor of his numerous revisions …like those commentaries you mentioned . Kasdan not withstanding ,as those were snippets culled from other interviews . I don’t need a video ,or you , to tell me "how to watch Star Wars " , I know how to watch Star Wars , I load the tape into my VCR ,The disc into my DVD player or cue up some of the wonderful preservations created here .

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#1479942
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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ken-obi said:

Darth Malgus said:

I’ve seen a saying somewhere on here, something like “Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest”.

Let people enjoy what they like. There is so much in Star Wars (film, tv, books, comics, music, games) to take and enjoy, or to leave aside if not.

I have been saying the same thing for years , totally agree .

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#1479940
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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Darth Retcon said:

screams in the void said:

One thing George forgot …not all poetry rhymes , nor does it have to .

100%.
 

As Emre says above there are some good points and facts made in Plinkett’s section on George, rhyming, Ring Theory and more, in his TFA review: https://youtu.be/miVRaoR_8xQ?t=653

Not forgetting his actual reviews on the Prequels themselves.
 

Contrary to what some other believe and claim, I even managed to still have my own views on the PT films after watching the Plinkett reviews!

In case it gets lost in the shuffle , I will repost the video by Hellogreedo here , which critiques the whole "ring theory " in a manner of civil discourse that is far removed from the tone of Plinkett …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FGBGcvWkdM and how was it that George described poetry ? Oh , yeah , now I remember …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqFLo_bYq0

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#1479939
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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Stardust1138 said:

screams in the void said:

One thing George forgot …not all poetry rhymes , nor does it have to .

I’d say George actually understands that perfectly. His whole way of creating poetry is different than how most see it. He likes taking an idea and changing the contexts around it to give a deeper meaning within another part of the story. Along with creating visual symmetry between the two trilogies. You can also slowly see the Republic be remade into the image of the Empire through shapes and design. He sees poetry more as lyrics to a song than as a literal prose the Sequel Trilogy mostly takes it to mean. He also writes his dialogue in a very similar way. He has tones he’s aiming for instead of dialogue that’s more modern in presentation. He uses the old fashioned style versus what is considered the normal for an audience today. He finds contemporary storytelling boring.

Examples within Dialogue:

“Your lightsabers will make a fine addition to my collection.” = Intimidation

“It’s only because I’m so in love.” = Devotion

Example within Narrative Poetry: Anakin/Vader physically or emotionally wounds Padme and Luke. Both reach out to Obi-Wan. Luke through the Force. Padme directly by asking him if Anakin is okay. Then you also have the most profound part for me - Luke and Leia are being born at the same time as though Luke and Leia are communicating through the Force when Leia checks if Luke is okay and rescues him. Just as Padme does with checking with Obi-Wan if Anakin is okay and Obi-Wan is rescuing her by taking her somewhere safe. It’s also happening while Anakin is being reborn as Darth Vader and losing his grip as Darth Vader as he spares the Imperial Officers when the Millennium Falcon escapes. Just as Padme is losing her will to live and giving life. The sequence ends with Anakin in his last words before being fully reborn as Darth Vader are of asking if Padme is safe. And naturally Padme’s last words in between are her belief there’s good in Anakin. This carries over to Luke. He keeps Padme’s hopeful belief in Anakin going after being scarred by him as she was but the difference is he survived. She didn’t. Her legacy did though. His journey of saving his father is rooted in his connection with his mother. In a way Leia takes more after Anakin personality wise but Luke takes after Padme in personality. In a more beautifully haunting way of putting it, one life begins as another passes.

And Visual Poetry:

I’ll just leave this here …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqFLo_bYq0 and this as well…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FGBGcvWkdM

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#1478662
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What do you LIKE about the EU?
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I like that the older EU is still in print and can be found on bookstore shelves and libraries . A lot of good stuff , a lot of bad and some mediocre stuff out there both old and new . My personal favorite EU story is the original Marvel Star Wars comics issues 58-63 from 1982 , detailing the rebels finding a new base on a forest world ( second guessing ROTJ for the second time ) and the Shira Brie arc . I consider those 6 issues to be like a movie in my head and would love to see an animated " legends " movie adaptation in the style of the DC animated movies . Also liked the first Dark Empire series , but only the first one . The OG Thrawn Trilogy , Tales Of The Jedi , I, Jedi and The New Jedi Order . From the new stuff , I enjoyed Bloodline by Claudia Gray , Rey’s survival guide , Empire’s End Trilogy by Chuck Wendig , Some of the Vader comics and Doctor Aphra , The Lando comic series and The Obi-Wan and Anakin comic

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#1478660
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Anyone else think Empire Strikes Back's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Cut?
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as a forum member on this here site that was founded with the goal of preserving the original theatrical releases of the Original Trilogy , I have to vote a big NO . As a " Special Edition " which is what they should have remained as an alternative viewing experience to the originals , the only changes to ESB for that I liked were the cleaned up matte lines /transparency issues and also the views outside the windows on Cloud City , as that was depicted in Ralph Mcquarrie’s concept art and production paintings . But , as said on these boards a million times …no one would have an issue with them if we had a high quality High Def release of the originals .