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schorman13

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#1305430
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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ChainsawAsh said:

Current discs are NOT this version, they’re repackagings of the 2011 discs. This version is NOT available on physical media yet.

And yeah, the OT is clearly new scans, I didn’t think that was even a question anymore (especially given the comparisons that have been posted that quite clearly show 2004/2011 changes re-done from scratch).

I’m still not convinced TPM is a new scan. I think it’s the same 2011 BR master, but given a new HDR color grade.

TPM might be from the same scan, but I don’t think it looked quite as heavily DNR’ed. That was the biggest problem with the Blu Ray to begin with. I haven’t had a chance to do a scientific analysis yet. 😉

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#1304598
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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Broom Kid said:

I still have my faintest of faint “recreated Original Versions as a bonus feature on the box set” hopes holding on.

Essentially - a Disney-created “despecialized edition.”

To me that’s about the only way the boxset would become a “must buy” for anyone. If there’s nothing exclusive, like the theatrical versions, then most people will be fine just having them to stream on D+.

This way, they can use 4K Star Wars to drive up D+ membership, and still have something left to help sell the boxset next year.

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#1303333
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Star Wars: SDTV & HDTV digital broadcast * database *
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ZigZig said:

I’m pretty sure it will be the BR version, the listed times seems to be the BR times accelerated to 25 fps (PAL standard).
Otherwise it could be the early theatrical source (that ORF1 already broadcasted in 2014) as schorman is guessing; anyway, there is no other source such as a 35mm telecine (AFAIK).

I’ll try to capture the .TS stream (unfortunately, my IPTV provider streams ORF1 at 720p, not 1080p).

The Blu-Ray version is about 130 minutes when played at 25fps and the theatrical is about 127. Excluding the credits, the Blu-Ray is 125 minutes and the Theatrical is about 122.

Playtime is listed as 125 minutes, so they are likely going to play the Blu-ray version and are just not including the Credits in the time calculation.

Edit:

Shoot! missed the last post. That’s a bummer. Thanks for checking

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#1299878
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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation
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Yeah, that’s probably it. For what it’s worth, VLC doesn’t behave like that. I’m only able to reproduce this when playing with MPV. It seems like MPV ignores the “Track Enabled” flag.

MPV will enable the Forced Commentary subtitles by default on all six films with the low bitrate versions, as well as on Empire and Revenge of the Sith on the Full bitrate versions.

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#1299866
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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation
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Are you talking about the DVD Commentary Subs? Those are forced subtitles that are meant to be used with the DVD Audio Commentary track. They just show who is talking at each point in the commentary. They are present on the DVDs.

I also included full English and Spanish subtitles for the actual commentary as well. The English Commentary subs were on the British versions of the DVDs, but not on the R1 American releases.

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#1299733
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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation
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Broom Kid said:

Apologies if I missed it, but I keep seeing references to low and high bitrate versions of this amazing (and exhaustive) project but no specifications as to what the bitrates are?

How ‘low’ is the “Low bitrate” version? Are the “low bitrate” versions in the 8-10 gigs per film range?

Yes, the low bitrate versions are between 7.5 to 10 Mbps on average. I actually encoded using constant quality mode with x264, which gave about 10 Mbps for TPM, and around 7.5 to 8.5 Mbps for the other 5 films.

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#1299352
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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation
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In prepping the low bitrate versions, I’ve found a pretty big error with Attack of the Clones.

The very top and bottom row of pixels are off sync by one frame for the entire second half of the film. I’ve found the problem in my script and have done a couple of test encodes trying to fix it.

The final encode should be done by tomorrow, and I should be able post the finished, lower bit rate versions later today, as long as the encode checks out ok.

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#1298340
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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation
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They are Blu-Ray graphical subs (PGS/SUP). I’ve matched the known theatrical styles and positioning as well as possible for each. The timing of Alien Subtitles are frame accurate based on known references, with the exceptions of the Jabba scene in ANH, and the single additional shot that appears in ROTJ, for which theatrical timing references don’t exist. Of course, the TPM and AOTC subs don’t fade in or out, as that’s not really possible to create without professional software.

Subtitle tracks for ROTS use the same style as AOTC, and subtitles for TESB use the same style as ANH, as those films don’t have any alien subtitles to match with.