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#307555
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Ady, are the Death Star interiors somehow more desaturated on the Xvid than they will be on the DVD? I just started noticing this last night on my third viewing (someone else mentioned it pages ago, but I can't find the post). Most of the interior shots appear to be desaturated all the way to grayscale. So it's like a black and white movie in the background with maybe a few faces and panel lights in color. Vader almost always appears in total monochrome, with the exception of his lights.

Now... this could easily be my video card, I could be seeing it wrong. And I didn't notice this at all my first couple of viewings. But once I started seeing it, I had a hard time *not* seeing it in a high percentage of interior shots, and even during the DS battle (which is so awesome I rewound it three times... again!). Are my eyes playing tricks on me?

At least I didn't mention either flippers or TIEs!

Ron Moses
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#307470
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307470/action/topic#307470
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Originally posted by: Tubes
I think the restructured hut scene works better than the original cut. It's as if Obi-Wan is slowly easing Luke in before he asks him to help him deliver the plans.


Right. It's not like anything useful could have been accomplished in the two minutes it takes to get to that part of the conversation. I can't see Obi-Wan watching the Leia video and then jumping up in a panic, "Oh shit, we've gotta get out of here and save the rebellion! Here, take this light saber, I'll explain later." He'd be sitting in the cantina talking to Han, drumming his fingers impatiently on the table, "Yeah, yeah, Kessel run, great, can we get the hell out of here please?!?" "A great disturbance in the force... damn this is really gonna throw us off schedule!"

You get the picture.

Ron Moses
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#307425
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307425/action/topic#307425
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Originally posted by: Fuser
No-one here has demanded anything of Ady, nor has there been any whining.


Whining about the flipper = minimal. Whining about the debate about the flipper = enough already.

As soon as folks start complaining about the people who are arguing about the people who are whining about the people who are debating about the flipper, I'm out.

proud to be a flipper-whiner,
Ron Moses
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#307422
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307422/action/topic#307422
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Originally posted by: adywan
Right after Vader strikes down Obi-Wan, Luke blasts the door controls and the door closes as Vader is approaching it. I thought, wouldn't it be cool if you see the door start glowing and Vader's light saber comes through it, a la Qui-Gon in TPM? Just seemed like a neat idea.
I don't think that vader would have done that. After all he wanted them to escape because so they could track them to the rebel base so why would he be so keen to damage the battle station just to get to them when he wants them to go free?

That's an excellent point, Ady. Hadn't thought of that.

As for the flipper shot i have to say i'm leaning a bit towards the human hand shot since i did that mock-up. But you'll just have to wait and see which ends up on the final DVD

Count me among those who are delighted to hear that. But did I mention the seamless branching option? Oh, I did? Well I'll just shut up then.

Ron Moses
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#307406
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307406/action/topic#307406
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Originally posted by: DF Shadow
I'm just glad to see my idea about the scorching of the edges of the jacket is agreed upon.

lol


Oh, you just reminded me of a thought I had while watching Ady's edit. [DISCLAIMER: This is NOT a suggestion to Ady. It's just a thought I had about something that would be kinda cool. No I don't think I can do better than Ady, and no I'm not going to make my own edit. Please relax. Thank you.]

Right after Vader strikes down Obi-Wan, Luke blasts the door controls and the door closes as Vader is approaching it. I thought, wouldn't it be cool if you see the door start glowing and Vader's light saber comes through it, a la Qui-Gon in TPM? Just seemed like a neat idea.

Ron Moses
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#307403
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307403/action/topic#307403
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Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
I really think the flipper debate has missed the biggest point - whether or not it would be a hand or a flipper, in the few seconds we have to see the shot, a human hand simply has more emotional impact. With the flipper, it takes a few seconds - or even a repeat viewing - to know what you're looking at. This could be the #1 reason Lucas went with a hand.


I think it's pretty well established that the flipper prop wasn't available for the shot, so Lucas went with what he had on hand, if you'll pardon the pun. Someone will take me out back and spank me if I'm wrong. But I agree with your point completely (though I 100% disagree about the TIE shot). The hand is the better dramatic choice. If you're a SW geek who is already aware that Ponda Boba has flippers (they're hardly the focus of the quick shot that shows them, most people would miss that) and is already aware that Ponda is the one that gets sabered, the shot makes perfect sense. Someone watching the film for the first time, or even the tenth (and I realize they're not the target audience), or is otherwise going into that scene without the aforementioned knowledge, would only be confused. I've watched it countless times, and I was confused.

But once again, disclaimer time for the easily upset: Ady, do it however makes you happy, bro.

Ron Moses
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#307348
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307348/action/topic#307348
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I think that shot is great. I know canon says it's Ponda that gets chopped, but I just don't see how the rest of the scene supports that. (I've watched the film a hundred times and it never crossed my mind that it could have been anyone but the human who gets it. I only learned that upon seeing the flipper shot.) I wouldn't complain if it ended up being the flipper, because I know that's "correct", and I respect that. But I'd be delighted to have the option of seeing the hand instead, just because it makes so much more sense. I said it before, but I think a seamless branching option would rock.

Regardless of your final decision, Ady, your work on this project is truly legendary.

EDIT: I should have clarified that, of course, however you want it to be is how it should be. You hardly need me to tell you that, but I'm trying to head off the responses from those who seem to be mistaking honest criticism for a crucifixion.

Ron Moses
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#307334
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307334/action/topic#307334
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Originally posted by: adywan
What i am going to do is films both shots. one of the hoof and one with Evazan's arm and sleeve then put whichever one i think looks best in the final DVD Version and i will put the other as a special feature so it can be edited in to suit peoples taste with ease if they want to do their won version.


How about a seamless branching option? Just a thought. The menu could offer the Ponda Boba version or the Dr. Evazan version. I mean... if you're doing both shots anyway.

Ron Moses
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#307261
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307261/action/topic#307261
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A few more credits observations:

2:01:12, there's a period after Gene Corso.

2:01:30, this may not be a typo at all, but there are spaces in Alan Roderick-Jones's name, so it appears Alan Roderick - Jones. I figure it's better to point these out and let you decide, right Ady?

2:02:14, the name is spelled "P.S.Ellenshaw" with no spaces. Unless this person does spell their name that way, there ought to be a space after each period.

2:02:41, the M in Camera and mechanical Design is not capitalized.

2:06:33, the N in Tikal national Park is not capitalized.

2:06:40, Samuel is misspelled as Smuel.

2:06:42, "thank" is misspelled as "thannk"

2:06:51, "copyright" is misspelled as "copyrite" (I'm not aware of this being an accepted alternate spelling, nor is it listed in my dictionary, so forgive me if it's a British thing)

That's all I found on my first pass. I haven't gone through it again, but I think I may have seen some inconsistency on the hyphenization of "re-recording". I could be wrong about that.

Ron Moses
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#307259
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307259/action/topic#307259
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Originally posted by: phraseturner
Someone may have already caught it and mentioned it, but I saw in the credits a "2nd until Camera" which should be "Unit". It may not have been camera, but it was one of the first listings of a "2nd Unit" anything....


It's dead-center screen at 2:01:39.... "2nd until Photography"

Ron Moses
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#307206
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307206/action/topic#307206
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Originally posted by: adywan
Originally posted by: ron2112
I think I found a small blooper, and it doesn't appear to be on the original DVD. It's at about 1:33:49 according to WMP. Han destroys the TIE and then his seat swivels to the right, but his turret does not follow. It remains aimed where it was when he last fired it. Just thought I should mention it.

Ron Moses


That would be in the original too because i haven't done anything to the position of the gun turrets


That's interesting. I just checked my NTSC 2004 DVD and the turret clearly moves with Han... I don't know what to make of that. Sadly I don't have the means to grab the two clips, but that's okay, it's entirely irrelevant either way.

Ady, I have to say again, this is awesome work. I can't wait to watch the actual DVD. Great, great stuff.

Ron Moses
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#307199
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307199/action/topic#307199
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I think I found a small blooper, and it doesn't appear to be on the original DVD. It's at about 1:33:49 according to WMP. Han destroys the TIE and then his seat swivels to the right, but his turret does not follow. It remains aimed where it was when he last fired it. Just thought I should mention it.

Ron Moses
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#307174
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307174/action/topic#307174
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Originally posted by: Kurgan
The "flipper" from Ponda Boba. I had to pause and take a look at it. I imagine someone seeing this for the first time would be like "wtf am I looking at?" making the shot a distraction. It's like an orange tube with a half inflated gray balloon at the end. It doesn't look like anything that could hold a gun, much less like an actual appendage. Sure, wolfman's hand was out of place, but at least it looked like a hand and the blood made it perfectly clear that this was a severed limb that Obi-Wan must have cut off, in the quick action seconds before.


I have to say, as much as I'm loving every other second of the film, that shot pulled me out of it. Not being entirely educated in every bit of SW lore, I had always assumed that it was the "you'll be dead" guy who's hand got cut off. He's the one who pulls his blaster, and he's between Obi-Wan and walrus guy. So this shot was the first indication I'd ever had that it was walrus-guy who got chopped. It seems to me that, even if it goes against canon, it would be preferable to make it a human-like hand with the suggestion that it's the other guy who gets it. Because the first thought I had was, what the hell was that? Then I rewound, realized it was walrus-guy's hand, and the second thought I had was, how did that hand even draw that pistol from a holster, never mind how he ever intended to fire it? It doesn't make sense to me that a creature with flippers would even bother carrying a pistol designed for a humanoid hand.

That said, every other moment was pure gold. Great work, Ady.

Ron Moses
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#307074
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307074/action/topic#307074
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Originally posted by: adywan
If anyone else spots any mistakes in the credits can you let me know as soon as possible

I'm sure I'm not the only one who went straight to the credits to see their name, right? Ady, I don't know why you decided to use my real name instead of my screen name, but I'm psyched that you did! Thanks!!!

Ron Moses
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#306841
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/306841/action/topic#306841
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Originally posted by: DarthBo
Originally posted by: seventiesfilmnut
How about making the white areas transparent using photoshop [...] then the user can use his/her own coloured background...

Maybe I have a special printer... but mine doesn't print white

No no, you don't want it to print white, you want it to print transparent. You can get the transparent ink cartridges at Staples, I'm pretty sure.

Ron Moses
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#306824
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/306824/action/topic#306824
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Originally posted by: JediBorota
@Sluggo---Don't take this the wrong way, but as I was scrolling down to read the posts and came upon your cover, the top half made me immediately think of Mickey Mouse due to the placement of the circles in the top corners.


I didn't see that when I first looked at it. Now I can't not see it. Thanks JB!

Ron Moses
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#306305
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/306305/action/topic#306305
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I know you specifically asked Adywan for his feedback, but may I offer one suggestion?

"...while correcting much of the excesses of the original Special Edition."

"Much" isn't quite correct... "many" would be a better choice. (Or "most" but I like "many" better.) You generally wouldn't use "much" to describe a countable quantity. "Much of what I wear is black, but many of my socks are white."

Just my two cents. The rest of it sounds great.

Ron Moses