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#64077
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Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64077/action/topic#64077
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Originally posted by: Warbler

I don't even no where to start! Ric don't you dare tell me what I am and am not confident in! You don't know me! I have said over and over again that I don't like Bush, have never liked Bush, have never voted for him and will never vote for him. Don't put words in my mouth again!! asshole! jesus christ!

and as for the rest of the things you said, are you f***ing serious?!? I assume that you really don't mean it when you say you don't care about the world,your country, and yourself. And maybe you should stop talking about politics until you can do it rationally!


I won't categorize this as a political comentary, so I won't be violating what I've said before, of never posting about politics again - at least not here.

Warbler, I wasn't talking specifically of you. I am sorry if I've offended you in any way, as it was NOT my intention. As I've said in my last post, when I said you, I mean "you all", not YOU you. In english there isn't a plural, impersonal form of "you", thus creating this misfortunate mistake due to language barrier. Please do not take it personal, I know you are not going to vote for him, and as a inteligent person, you have your own thoughts and ideals about the issue. And for the same reason I don't know you, I never intended to either offend you or put words in your mouth, as you've said. So again, I'm sorry. I'll keep myself from posting until you reply accepting my apologies, only if you decide to, of course.

About the later part, yes, I do feel that way nowadays, and yes I don't care about it anymore, since my single thought and opinions won't really matter. I do care about the world in a way, in the same way I care about the life of innocent people, but I don't care about myself and what the Powers that Be can do to me and my own life, since I have little to no control over that.

As a later note, based on what I've seen here today, and in other political threads, I'd suggest that such topic is not discussed here.
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#63991
Topic
Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63991/action/topic#63991
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Originally posted by: Warbler

And wheither or not it justifies the war, the world is better off without Saddam. One less murdering dictator in the world. How you beleive that the world is better off with a man like Saddam than without? You don't have to think that that justifies the war, but Saddam definitely was not a good guy and I am glad it is not longer in power. I can only hope this ends with a stable Iraq with the people of Iraq being able to choose their own leaders.


Warbler, I'm pretty sure you are confident on the actions taken by not only Bush, but the whole republican staff at the white house. Therefore, since the job being done on war on terror is so great that justifies what is being done with the country, you should vote for him, and get 4 more years of a republican administration. Or voter for Kerry, who cares. Both are mindless puppets, moving where the money is. Don't even bother voting green, or voting for other candidates. Don't even consider changing the electoral system to a democratic one. One person one vote, nah, that's the way those banana republics choose their insane liders, like Idi Amin Dada or Pol Pot or Saddam...


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Normally I won't want to start a political discussion on a Star Wars site but I have to make an exception now.


OH COME ONE, Jimbo!

And no thanks, I rather not look at the pictures of innocents human beings being sadistically murdered because someone decided to have inconsequential sex. So glad we agree on that.


That's it I give up.

You know, I enjoy talking with all of you about any subject at all, from Star Wars to 70s european porn, but I don't feel so great talking about american politics. It's a heavily polarized issue, strictly two-sided, and both sides defend their own opinions and wishes as their lifes depended on it. Well, somehow people belive they do, as TV has told you every single day, but worry not, your life is being guided by clever marketing campaigns and sitcom plots. They need you alive so you keep consuming. Me, I don't give a rat's ass about who wins this mud wrestling match, Bush, Kerry, Nader, George Lucas, I don't care anymore. The world could become a wonderful world of bliss and joy, or we could be nuked by the north koreans right now, I don't care anymore, I don't care if terrorists armed with letter openers kill me while I'm asleep, I don't care if a 75 year-old pensioner from Louisiana is getting his free medicine from the government, I don't care if Bush decides to invade Brazil because our president is torturing people with samba and boring soccer games, I don't care if I get killed by us marines who think I'm a "terrorist" because of my Die Jar Jar Die t-shirt, I don't care if I'm taken to Abu Ghraib 2 and tortured in a Pulp Fiction way by a us marine gimp going medieval on my ass, I don't care if Kerry throw a thousand purple hearts at me killing me with the weight, I don't care if Michael Moore makes a movie about how much of a loser I am, I simply don't care anymore. But yes, I'd like to see Bush win, because, frankly, lately I've wanted for the whole world to blow up in pieces.

And that's it, I mean, what's the point of going on talking about politics with you guys, I don't want to create enemies here, I don't need to change you people's minds, and I'm positive that whatever I say people will disagree, so now I'm serious: I refuse to speak about anything slightly political ever again.
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#63986
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2001: A Space Odyssey Special edition with CGI
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63986/action/topic#63986
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Sweet baby Jesus, don't you ever say that again! Don't you EVER suggest the idea of altering any of Kubrick's masterpiece! Thank GOD Eyes Wide Shut was released in an unaltered version over here.

I remember that a few months before Kubrick died, there was this rumor that he wanted to re-film the whole stargate sequence from 2001, replacing Douglas Trumbull's incredible SFX with crappy CGI. Of course I belive it was not true (we will never know, now that he's dead), as Kubrick is not a talentless lunatic as GL is.
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#63982
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Bowling for Coruscant
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63982/action/topic#63982
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Not really, a cheap VHS recorded film edited in a computer, for non-profitable reasons. There will be a SW convention in town 2 weeks from now, I could go there and tape some testimonials and interview some people about it, then subtitle (or translate it and send the translation if the subtitles are going to be done later), send it thru the net to someone who might edit it... It would be a short, amateur film, more like a fan film, but opposed to GL's actions...
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#63897
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Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63897/action/topic#63897
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abortion is different from killing babies. fallwell-cronies-groupies need to read some more books instead only the "one true book"


One more thing... I'm a strict liberal, almost anarchist in a way, but I DO consider abortion to be the BLOODY MURDER of innocent PEOPLE who had nothing to do with the mother's inabilities to keep her legs closed together. Even if I was a poor 2 dollar prostitute living in the street and expecting triplets, I would NEVER do such a thing, I belive it's one of the most horrible thing you could do, along with murdering defenseless innocents.
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#63896
Topic
Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63896/action/topic#63896
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Originally posted by: starkiller
ricarleite,
You must take everything that Moore says with a grain, no, a fistful of salt. The man openly has an agenda and historically twists the facts for his own uses.


I don't. I could go on and argue like I used to do months ago, when a political war broke into this forum, but I decided to just go on and copy-paste the first political text I could find about the subject, and it ended up being Moore's. I knew someone would point this out sooner or later. I just gave up arguing, as I'm "too liberal". You can't fight for a peaceful world, nope, can't do that. You gotta yell out stuff like "world is better without Saddam" so that the brutality seems deliciously justified. By the way I want Bush to win. First, because I don't give a crap anymore, as it won't influence my life that much. Second, because most americans (not all of them) deserve 4 more years of him.
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#63875
Topic
Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63875/action/topic#63875
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Oh no not again...

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It Takes Real Courage to Desert Your Post and Then Attack a Wounded Vet

Dear Mr. Bush,

I know you and I have had our differences in the past, and I realize I am the one who started this whole mess about "who did what" during Vietnam when I brought up that "deserter" nonsense back in January. But I have to hand it to you on what you have uncovered about John Kerry and his record in Vietnam. Kerry has tried to pass himself off as a war hero, but thanks to you and your friends, we now know the truth.

First of all, thank you for pointing out to all of us that Mr. Kerry was never struck by a BULLET. It was only SHRAPNEL that entered his body! I did not know that! Hell, what's the big deal about a bunch of large, sharp, metal shards ripping open your flesh? That happens to all of us! In my opinion, if you want a purple heart, you'd better be hit by a bullet -- with your name on it!

Secondly, thank you for sending Bob Dole out there and letting us know that Mr. Kerry, though wounded three times, actually "never spilled blood." When you are in the debates with Kerry, turn to him and say, "Dammit, Mr. Kerry, next time you want a purple heart, you better spill some American red blood! And I don't mean a few specks like those on O.J.'s socks -- we want to see a good pint or two of blood for each medal. In fact, I would have preferred that you had bled profusely, a big geyser of blood spewing out of your neck or something!" Then throw this one at him: "Senator Kerry, over 58,000 brave Americans gave their lives in Vietnam -- but YOU didn't. You only got WOUNDED! What do you have to say for yourself???" Lay that one on him and he won't know what to do.

And thanks, also, Mr. Bush, for exposing the fact that Mr. Kerry might have actually WOUNDED HIMSELF in order to get those shiny medals. Of course he did! How could the Viet Cong have hit him -- he was on a SWIFT boat! He was going too fast to be hit by enemy fire. He tried to blow himself up three different times just so he could go home and run for president someday. It's all so easy to see, now, what he was up to.

What would we do without you, Mr. Bush? Criticize you as we might, when it comes to pointing out other men's military records, there is no one who can touch your prowess. In 2000, you let out the rumor that your opponent John McCain might be "nuts" from the 5 years he spent in a POW camp. Then, in the 2002 elections, your team compared triple-amputee Sen. Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden, and that cost him the election. And now you are having the same impact on war hero John Kerry. Since you (oops, I mean "The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!") started running those ads, Kerry's poll numbers have dropped (with veterans, he has lost 18 points in the last few weeks).

Some people have said "Who are you, Mr. Bush, to attack these brave men considering you yourself have never seen combat -- in fact, you actively sought to avoid it." What your critics fail to understand is that even though your dad got you into a unit that would never be sent to Vietnam -- and even though you didn't show up for Guard duty for at least a year -- at least you were still IN FAVOR of the Vietnam War! Cowards like Clinton felt it was more important to be consistent (he opposed the war, thus he refused to go) than to be patriotic and two-faced.

The reason that I think you know so much about other men's war wounds is because, during your time in the Texas Air National Guard, you suffered so many of them yourself. Consider the paper cut you received on September 22, 1972, while stationed in Alabama, working on a Senate campaign for your dad's friend (when you were supposed to be on the Guard base). A campaign brochure appeared from nowhere, ambushing your right index finger, and blood trickled out onto your brand new argyle sweater.

Then there was the incident with the Crazy Glue when your fraternity brothers visited you one weekend at the base and glued your lips together while you were "passed out." Though initially considered "friendly fire," it was later ruled that you suffered severe post traumatic stress disorder from the assault and required certain medicinal attention -- which, it seems, was provided by those same fraternity brethren.

But nothing matched your heroism when, on July 2, 1969, you sustained a massive head injury when enemy combatants from another Guard unit dropped a keg of Coors on your head during a reconnaissance mission at a nearby all-girls college. Fortunately, the cool, smooth fluids that poured out of the keg were exactly what was needed to revive you.

That you never got a purple heart for any of these incidents is a shame. I can fully appreciate your anger at Senator Kerry for the three he received. I mean, Kerry was a man of privilege, he could have gotten out just like you. Instead, he thinks he's going to gain points with the American people bragging about how he was getting shot at every day in the Mekong Delta. Ha! Is that the best he can do? Hell, I hear gunfire every night outside my apartment window! If he thinks he is going to impress anyone with the fact that he volunteered to go when he could have spent the Vietnam years on the family yacht, he should think again. That only shows how stupid he was! True-blue Americans want a president who knows how to pull strings and work the system and get away with doing as little work as possible!

So, to make it up to you, I have written some new ads you can use on TV. People will soon tire of the swift boat veterans and you are going to need some fresh, punchier material. Feel free to use any of these:

ANNOUNCER: "When the bullets were flying all around him in Vietnam, what did John Kerry do? He said he leaned over the boat and 'pulled a man out of the river.' But, as we all know, men don't live in the river -- fish do. John Kerry knows how to tell a big fish tale. What he won't tell you is that when the enemy was shooting at him, he ducked. Do you want a president who will duck? Vote Bush."

ANNOUNCER: "Mr. Kerry's biggest supporter, Sen. Max Cleland, claims to have lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam. But he still has one arm! How did that happen? One word: Cowardice. When duty called, he was unwilling to give his last limb. Is that the type of selfishness you want hanging out in the White House? We think not. Vote for the man who would be willing to give America his right frontal lobe. Vote Bush."

Hope these help, Mr. Bush. And remember, when the American death toll in Iraq hits 1,000 during the Republican convention, be sure to question whether those who died really did indeed "die" -- or were they just trying to get their faces on CNN's nightly tribute to fallen heroes? The sixteen who've died so far this week were probably working hand in hand with the Kerry campaign to ruin your good time in New York. Stay consistent, sir, and always, ALWAYS question the veracity of anyone who risks his or her life for this country. It's the least that person deserves.

Yours,

Michael Moore
mmflint@aol.com
www.michaelmoore.com

P.S. George, I know you said you don't read the newspaper, but USA Today has given me credentials to the Republican convention to write a guest column each day next week (Tues.-Fri.). If you don't want to read it, you and I will be in the same building so maybe I could come by and read it to you? Lemme know...
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#63846
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Bowling for Coruscant
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63846/action/topic#63846
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Adding to what I`ve said on boycotts on the other topic here, and to the humoristic suggestion I've made some time ago, how about we do something that might take people's attention and opinions: a documentary. A cheap one, done in VHS. It could be called "Bowling for Coruscant". We could get people's opinion on the changes, explain to non-sw fans what is going on, and try to talk with someone from Lucasfilm, maybe even get a word from GL! It would end with colorized stooges shorts over the credits. I could film some testimonials here in Brazil, subtitle them, and send them over to someone who is willing to edit the whole thing. We could all contribute. What do you say?
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#63842
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A Modest Suggestion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63842/action/topic#63842
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Originally posted by: tman5
Ricarleite, I don't understand why you are so vehemently against a boycott. It takes nothing away from any other effort. We can work to gain media attention and public support but if Lucas doesn't bend then what? Pack up and go home, stopping at Walmart on the way to pick up a copy of the DVDs?

We must be willing to go as far as possible (and legal) to make our voices heard. If we limit our options starting out, we have already lost. While we are getting the word out, let's also get the word out of a planned boycott to add more pressure on Lucas and his supporters.

And I agree getting people to actually boycott will be hard. But like Warbler said: How do we know if we don't try?


I oppose it because I belive it will be useless effort on our side. While boycotts might have some political power, mostly because political causes are followed by the masses, it is quite innefective in this case. If Lucasfilm was poluting a major river or burning the rain forest in order to do its movies, then we would have a way to convince people, but I'm afraid we can't do that based on what we've got. Sure, I won't buy the DVD set, but other people will, regardless of how much I scream "GREEDO SHOOTS FIRST!" on their ears. I could boycott ROTS's first week, but most of the fans, even those who hate the SEs, won't. "Why shouldn't I watch this movie, it's a free country and I do what I want to do", is what people would think.

I think we should concentrate our efforts on other ways. First, we have to make sure the people KNOW what's going on without making it sound like a joke. "Oh, it's just some nerds who are complaining about their new star trek movie", it's what most people would think of us. Boycotting would make us sound more ridiculous. We must get people's attention in a serious way, and unfortunally the only way to do so is by using the media. People's minds and opinions are shaped by what the TV tells them, so if the media take our side and people get to know our message ("Star Wars, one of the world's great artistic achievements, is DYING"), THEN we will achieve our goal. Maybe then a boycott would me more easily accepted. If preassured enough, Lucasfilm would have to give in.

It is a tough achievement, and as much as I support originaltrilogy.com, sometimes I belive we will not succeed. The decision behind the release of the OT is on few people, and it's near to impossible to convince them. It would be like convincing Hitler not to invade Poland because we don't want to. But oh well, I still belive there's one thing that would convince him: money. If he realizes how much people would PAY him to have the classic trilogy, perhaps he would be convinced. And you can't convince him of this if we start boycotting his products...

That's what I think, I know you guys don't agree with me.
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#63816
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Irvin Kershner on Special Editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63816/action/topic#63816
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Kershner: Well I belive George Lucas is really improving his creative vision, and the changes made on the movies really made then better and closer not only to his original vision, but to mine as well. He is truly an artistic genius.

(as Kershner leaves to the back, he removes his rubber mask: it's GL)

GL: Woo, it was hot in this thing...

(goes to his car, opens his trunk, Kershner is there)

GL: Have you seen Goodfellas, Irvin? Well then you know what expects you... (cocks the gun)
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#63813
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Good things to say about the PT!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63813/action/topic#63813
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More good things:

* It had sound, and real human voices, no cards with dialogue written on it. The colors were bright and shiny.
* It featured none, or very few pirates.
* No frontal nudity, sex or blasphemy.
* The pod race ended the way I imagine it would end, and I enjoy figuring out the plot before the director does.
* Both movies ended.
* Standing in the lines with my friends before the movies started was fun.
* I didn't break a bone or die while watching those movies...

OK that's pretty much it. Everything I didn't mention sucked.
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#63812
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Episode III is the last one
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63812/action/topic#63812
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Originally posted by: buddy-x-wing
THE HISTORY ACCORDING TO GEORGE:
THE STORY CHANGES EVERYTIME HE TELLS IT, WHEN MY GRANDMA STARTED DOING THIS WE PUT HER IN AN OLD FOLKS HOME.


Are you saying we should put GL on a nurse home?

"I shouldn't be here! I created Star Wars and Indiana Jones!"
"Sure you did grandpa..."
"And I created Howard the Duck, and... I'm pretty sure I've created He-Man... I think..."
"Sure, grandpa... Want more pie?"
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#63652
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Official DVD Comparison R1 vs R4
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63652/action/topic#63652
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I'm from Brazil (region 4), so as soon as the DVDs are released I'll try to find out what the differences are. I know that the menus will be on other languages, there will be subitltes in spanish and portuguese, closed captions on the country's language, and the brazillian version is most likely to feature a dubbing in portuguese as well. Apart from that, it seems to be identical. I'm not sure about other countries, but in Brazil the pan-scan version will not be released.