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Post: #107155
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107155/action/topic#107155
Time: 20-May-2005 11:45 PM

Originally posted by: Darth Balls
If the dagobah scene is included on the dvd, I think that should go back in.

Another cutscene is grievous killing and fighting jedi, that should be put back in if its available, since that would make him more menacing.

Also maybe the anakin/obiwan fight and the yoda/emperor fight shouldnt be intercut, some have said it ruins the tension of the anakin fight

maybe the noooooooooooo bit could be replaced with a vader scream

theres just some random off the top of my head ideas

Dagobah and Yoda meditating and talking to Qui-Gon should be back, if those scenes exist in a final form and are available, which I doubt.
Weren't those 2 figths intercut? Memory's failing me now, maybe it's time to see it again...
Replace it with which scream? Vader having his hand cut?
Maybe add some tie-fighters around the death star? After all, this scene is obviously set a few years before the empire is formed (notice that they already have full uniforms). On a second thought, don't add anything, this would be too much close to an SE change...

Post: #107150
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107150/action/topic#107150
Time: 20-May-2005 11:33 PM

It's not that I disaprove the idea, but this thought was on my mind as I left the movie theater thursday at 2:30 am: it is IMPOSSIBLE to make a MagnoliaFan edit over this, and GL did it on porpouse. You can cut bits and pieces, and maybe restore some cut scenes when those are available, but that's it. Maaaaybe overdub the Vader "nooooooo!" with something from the OTs, although I'm not sure what. There is NO way to make this film better editing what's available now.

Post: #107140
Topic: The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107140/action/topic#107140
Time: 20-May-2005 10:59 PM

Originally posted by: JediSage

Como esperto

You actually wrote "how clever" on a translation tool or looked up in a dictionary, right? That sentence has no meaning...

Another thing which has no meaning and I might add to things I hate: life itself! Don't know if you've been through such a moment in your life in which everything feels so weird, like you life is a movie co-directed by David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick and Federico Fellinni based on a book by Franz Kafka.

Post: #107157
Topic: The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107157/action/topic#107157
Time: 20-May-2005 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
Holy crap, it's a Mon Calamari! That would've been cool to see.

Only if he said "It's a trap!" every now and then. And when he seated, he just dropped himself to the chair and breathed in releaf.

Post: #107151
Topic: Ric's Star Wars week
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107151/action/topic#107151
Time: 20-May-2005 5:35 PM

LOL, what, my "Gaara" avatar? Well I don't know, I could dye my hair and tatoo the kanji "love" on my forehead, but it could be weird.

I've posted some pictures of me before.

Post: #107148
Topic: SW on David Letterman
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107148/action/topic#107148
Time: 20-May-2005 5:28 PM

Just watched it... NOT very funny. I remember seeing on the internet back in 1999 a sketch by Jay Leno over TPM, that was funny... I remember he had a fake cereal box for those who were in line waiting for the movie for weeks: it was called "GET A LIFE!", and had a geeky guy with glasses on the box.

Post: #107147
Topic: Falcon is in ep3
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107147/action/topic#107147
Time: 20-May-2005 5:25 PM

Well I saw a bootleg copy on DVD on sunday afternoon last week. It was full quality and it was in fullscreen, which leads me to belive it was copied from a promotional copy or something. A friend of mine told me that there were bootleg copies in China for over a month, perhaps an early cut of the film? HOW does those things leak so fast and so easily? I mean, I've read that right now there are 2 quality copies in torrent servers, not filmed from movie theaters...

Post: #107146
Topic: Ep. III: Focus on tracked music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107146/action/topic#107146
Time: 20-May-2005 5:14 PM

Now, I could be wrong, maybe my memory is failing me already, but after Obi-Wan and Anakin get onto the ship that's holding Palpatine, until the ship begins to fall apart on its descent, there was no music at all, right? Maybe at some parts, but during the search for Palpatine, no music, right? I thought that was a good decision, made the whole thing more tense.

Post: #107142
Topic: Girl Problem
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107142/action/topic#107142
Time: 20-May-2005 5:04 PM

Congrats Davis. Even if this is how far she'll go with you, it's a good thing by itself, you acomplished much by letting go any fear of rejection and going to her.

Post: #106997
Topic: The Return of Six Degrees of Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106997/action/topic#106997
Time: 20-May-2005 3:17 PM

I think I remember Ed O'Neill being suggested once, but...

Ed O'Neill (Spartan) Val Kilmer (Heat) Natalie Portman

Evan Parke

Post: #107084
Topic: ROTS sets new Opening Day Gross record
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107084/action/topic#107084
Time: 20-May-2005 12:17 PM

The film cost 113 millions, plus 98 millions in advertising and distribution. About 200 million dollars. It has achieved 50 millions yesterday only. So, it's gonna pay for itself in only 4 days - let's be reminded that it opened on a thursday, and there is going to be a bigger audience on friday/saturday/sunday. I think it'll make top 5 box office worldwide.

Post: #107083
Topic: Falcon is in ep3
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107083/action/topic#107083
Time: 20-May-2005 12:12 PM

I'd also like to see George Lucas's cameo as Baron Pawawhatever... he is supposedly in the theater scene with Palpatine...

Post: #107080
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107080/action/topic#107080
Time: 20-May-2005 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: Asha
And we know that Anakin made love to Padme because, when he was informed that she was pregnant, he didn't squeal, "That can't be! We never did the nasty! Are you sure it's mine?"

"You filthy whore!"

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

Padme: "Anakin, I'm pregnant..."
* Obi-Wan comes back *
OBI-WAN: "Oh, Anakin, I almost forgot. Your sperm count test result arrived, you can't have children. Gotta go..." *leaves *
*Anakin force chokes Padmé *
ANAKIN: You intergalactical whore! How could you! *Padme dies *
ANAKIN: But... who could be the father...?
* cuts to Wicket the Ewok on bed with Padme, goes back to Anakin *
ANAKIN: Ah, who cares anyway.
* Palpatine comes in *
PALPATINE: Anakin you idiot, you must come to the dark side if you want to save your girlfriend's life!
ANAKIN: Nah, i'ts ok. I break up with her. I actually broke her neck up. She's dead.
PALPATINE: ... Oh. I didn't forsee that. So, uh... is there anyone else's death you wanna avoid?
ANAKIN: Nope.
PALPATINE: Uh... any reason you could be convinced to be a Sith Lord?
ANAKIN: Hmn-hmn, no, I don't think so.
PALPATINE: ... uh... I see... OK. *leaves*

"And so, Anakin never turns into Vader and nothing happens from now on on STAR WARS. The End."

Post: #107010
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107010/action/topic#107010
Time: 20-May-2005 9:57 AM

About the Death Star scene, I take that this scene happens some years after Vader gets his suit. We see that the imperial officers are all recruited and in full uniform, and I doubt Palpatine had thousands of spare uniforms hiding in boxes just waiting for his evil plans to be completed.

"I will form a galactical empire to make sure there's peace!"
*applause *
"So that's how freedom dies, with thunderous applause"
*appluse ending*
"And I have some cool, new uniforms for those who chose to work for me... I have 3 sizes... And you get this cute cap"
* Tarkin walks in, modeling the hew outfits *

Post: #106952
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106952/action/topic#106952
Time: 20-May-2005 8:13 AM

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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
As for Ewok over Greivous, come on. Greivous, while disposable, is atleast believable. If you take no umbrage with tiny forrest creatures bringing the Galactic F'NG Empire to it's knees. Something well armed, well funded Rebels couldn't do for 15 years, then I don't want to hear you complain about plot holes or lack of believability again.

It was a not-so-obvious humorous overeaction about the topic.

Post: #106934
Topic: ROTS: The Jedi Now Seen In A Different Light...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106934/action/topic#106934
Time: 20-May-2005 8:02 AM

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Originally posted by: Asha
Did they go back to free Anakin's mother from slavery? The amount of money she was worth was a drop in the bucket for the Jedi, yet they left her to be a slave. Awful.

Uh, I suppose while in film school george lucas didn't attend the "Plot Holes 101" class?

Post: #106923
Topic: Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106923/action/topic#106923
Time: 20-May-2005 7:48 AM

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
okay so while everyone was dying to ask me what i thought of the movie when i got home, when i went to work, or just on the net in general i still have yet to give a full answer until now...

Anakin giving into the darkside so quickly

Agreed. But I was thinking about it, and the thing is: there was NO way to make a Jedi character convincingly go to the dark side on one movie. So, as horrible and rushed as it looked, GL did a good job...

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Palpatine slaughtering 3 Jedi's without hardly breaking a sweat when they come to arrest him (sorry but jedi's clearly suck in these movies)

It's not him moving, it's the force (like Yoda) acting for him and stuff. Although the "matrix jumps" he did were a little bit too much.

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The numerous decapitations in the movies (i guess they ran out of ideas on how to kill someone??)

I didn't even notice... It was OK by me.

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Obi Wan riding a lizard

Well, after all we saw on the prequels, one little lizard was fine...

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Darth Vader walking like Frankenstein at the end and screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" (wow how many times have we seen that before)

Agreed... It was horrible... It would NOT happen if David Prowse had been called back, he IS Vader. Besides, I wished they had, like, 15 more minutes after Vader hets his suit...

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and this movie couldnt have ended on a more pathetic scene... (we all know what im talking about "binary with lars")
i dont care who says different... i could almost see George beside me nuging me saying "huh huh... get it? we'll be seeing that in the next movie" BLAHHH!!!

It was an OK ending, the suns and stuff, a nice reference to the famous ANH scene, but as I said above, they should have a little bit more after the delivery of the babies... More Lars, more Vader, maybe a small dialogue with Tarkin, Yoda going to Dagobah, Obi-Wan arriving at his new home and putting a lightsaber on that box...

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But the real reason i started this thread was to ask 2 questions...

1. What was the reaction at your theater when the movie ended? (cheered, applause, booing?)

I was absolutly stunned when at the end of the movie the crowd just began to booooo. And im not talking about a 1 second boo, i mean a full fledged BOOOOOOOOOOOOO from almost all members of the audience. I've never attended a Star Wars movie that had been booed.

It was stunned, painful silence for a few moments, with one or two people applauding. But mostly silence...

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2. did anyone else notice 2 major plot holes .... if you want to call them that...

- When Luke asks Leia if she remembers her mother "her real mother" she says yes. She continues to say that she was kind, very beautiful, but sad...

didnt Padme die after Leia was born??
now if your telling me... that she remembers that from when Padme named her before she died im gonna howl.. because theres no way you would remember as a baby if someone was sad or not....??? i dont even think a baby would know what sad is....

Maybe Leia is talking about her adoptive mother, maybe she really thought she was an Organa.

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ANYWAY

- ANH Ben says to Luke "your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough" (about anakin's lightsaber)

maybe its just me... i dont remember him saying that... do you?
and if your gonna tell me he said it off screen.... how would Anakin have known he was having a son???

Obi-Wan was one big fat liar on ANH

Post: #106910
Topic: ROTS: The Child Birth Scene and Sidious Motives? <em>SPOILERS</em>
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106910/action/topic#106910
Time: 20-May-2005 7:35 AM

1- If there ever was a scene with Yoda and Qui-Gon, why was it cut? Perhaps Liam Neeson didn't do the voice over and they cut it? If they did, the whole explanation of the Jedi spirits was not given to the audience!

2- Also, the explanation of why a Jedi disapear and some don't is not clear (perhaps if you know how to mantain your consciousness after death, you can also make yourself disapear).

3- How did the clones know about Order 66, and why did they obey? Hypnosis? They were all trained in kamino to do that? Didn't the Kamino cloners find weird that a Jedi went there to ask for clones that would eventually KILL the Jedis? Or maybe Sifo Dias was not the one there, but how about when Obi Wan was in Kamino?

4- And yes, the whole thing about the babies. Didn't Vader/Palpatine sense anything? Vader knew he would have a child, he never bothered to look for it in Tatooine? Perhaps while visiting his stepbrother, Owen Lars...? Or visiting his mother's grave, right NEXT to it?

Post: #106898
Topic: How do you rate EpIII?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106898/action/topic#106898
Time: 20-May-2005 7:14 AM

As a film: 7/10, it was actually entertaining, slow in some points but I enjoy slow films, almost well acted, almost well written.

As a Star Wars episode: 5/10, still have the same flaws from the prequels, and some new ones. An enjoyable beggining, a few surprises throught the movie, some nice scenes, but that's it.

The 1st is the best, 6th is the worse:

1- ESB
2- ANH
3- ROTJ (very close to ANH)
4- ROTS
5- AOTC
6- TPM

Post: #106895
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106895/action/topic#106895
Time: 20-May-2005 7:10 AM

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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
well i liked it, if you guys want to nitpik go ahead, i thought it was the best of the PT and better then ANH and ROTJ. es it has some flaws but overall the movie was fantastic, 4 out 5 stars from me. and the space battle as the begining was so cool. i lived how they took a page of The New Jedi Order books with the small robots attacking the fighters.

I'll agree with you on most points, Shimmy. 4 out of 5 stars... yes. Best of the PT... yes. Space battle cool... yes. Better than ROTJ... yes. Cool that they follow some ideas in the NJO... dunno, have only read one of the NJO books. Better than ANH... no. That's the only one I don't agree on. Otherwise, I enjoyed it immensely and I'm an OT purist. Call me a heretic, I don't care. I can like it and I do.

Better than ROTJ? No way! It was the best of the prequels (only slightly better than AOTC), and it was a good film, but I'll take the Ewoks over Grievious any time...

Post: #106682
Topic: The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106682/action/topic#106682
Time: 19-May-2005 9:21 PM

Originally posted by: JediSage
I also hate it when people speak to eachother in a foreign language when there's someone in the room who doesn't understand them.

É, eu odeio quando isso acontece! Alguém começa a falar numa lingua que eu não entendo, eu não sei se a pessoa está falando de mim... Se bem que isso pode ser apenas paranóia minha... E outra coisa, por que eu estou escrevendo isso tudo, se tenho a certeza de que ninguém vai entender nada?

EDIT: OK this is what I said: "Yeah, I hate when that happens! Someone starts to speal in a language I don't understand, I don't know if that person is actually talking about me... Although this is kinda paranoic of me... Also, why am I writing all this stuff, if I'm absolutely sure that no one will understand?"

Post: #106663
Topic: Rankings
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106663/action/topic#106663
Time: 19-May-2005 7:53 PM

Motti, where were you?

Post: #106689
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106689/action/topic#106689
Time: 19-May-2005 3:47 PM

I was also reminded of Frankeinstein's monster when I saw that scene with Vader moving out... Would NOT happen if David Prowse were wearing that suit...

Post: #106669
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106669/action/topic#106669
Time: 19-May-2005 2:07 PM

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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
Easily though, the coolest thing, was seeing all the things that tied in directly to the fourth one at the end. Like seeing Grand Moff Tarken, and the fleet of Star Destroyers, and all the officers on the ship... It really made me feel like I was watching a new Star Wars movie, and that's where episode 1 and 2 failed. They just didn't seem like Star Wars movies.

I felt that too. For the 5 seconds shot from below, showing the officials at that lower part and the emperor, vader and tarkin above looking outside, I felt like I was watching a real Star Wars movie. That's why I think that there should be at least 15 minutes after Vader gets the suit.

Post: #106667
Topic: Ric's Star Wars week
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106667/action/topic#106667
Time: 19-May-2005 2:04 PM

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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, she didn't seem to be 5 or 6 months pregnant at all, not for someone carrying twins. It was more like 2 months. And then she delivers two huge twins which were obviously born at a 9 month pregancy. What gives? Well, probably the movie spans about 6 or 7 months.

And don't they have ultra-sonography in SW? She discovered she had twins at labor? And she DIES? What was that, they have a 1940s technology for delivering babies?

And you also have to remember that they are in an alternate galaxy. Who's to say that a month to them is the same as it is to us. Yes, her stomach may have been a bit small, but oh well.

So she dies. Bodies shut down sometimes. Losing the will is one explanation. But there are other possibilities the likes of which science even in a galaxy far, far away may not be able to explain. Just accept it and move on. No reason to jack yourself mentally over it. I can think of far worse things to worry about in the SW movies than that.

Even if they don't have the equivalent of "months", I think that humans in the SW universe still have to wait the equivalent to nine Earth months. Unless the humans are not that humans, and they have a 3 or 4 months gestation.