regularjoe

Me and my friends were all 11 - 12 when the 1st one came out and we did all sorts of 1970’a - `1980’s nerdy things like taking cassette players into the theater and taping the movies, having nerdy schoolyard conversations that had sentences like “what if George Lucas dies in a plane crash before he finishes the sequel?” and then after TESB we had that same conversation again.

I saw RotJ with my dad on opening weekend. I had gotten enough info about the movie before it came out that I knew what to expect from the story line. My dad and I went to these like other fathers and sons go to ball games.
When I left the theater all I could think was “I waited six years for that?”

There’s a fine movie in there lost amid a horrible execution. I saw this one several times in the theaters and it’s got moments but not enough to bring it to the level that it needs to be at. The whole affair felt recycled and phoned in.

I’ve read a fair amount of threads here about RotJ edits and peoples feeling about them and I do wonder how many people here have read Rinzlers’ book on it. I realize it’s Lucasfilm sanctioned and people may be wary of historical revisionism but there’s a lot in that book where things are detailed about the people on the movie being aghast at what is going on. Ralph McQuarrie does pre-production art but refuses to draw teddy bears, for one thing and they very clearly spell out that Lucas had a kid and he wanted to be able to take that kid into a toy store and buy a Star Wars teddy bear. There are parts of the constitution of this movie where the quality control was thrown under the bus to make a real kids movie and that’s the big thing that haunts it. There’s the whole dark will he or won’t he patricide thing that’s playing off against burp jokes and killer (BUT CUTE) teddy bears. It’s a movie that can’t make up it’s mind as to what it wants to be - at least The Phantom Menace is consistent in that regard.

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Dooku and greivous are both terrible characters. You kinda have to have dooku I guess, but I could do without grevious entirely.

One of my earliest fanedits is RotS with no Grevious. He is referred to but never seen.

I haven’t seen Puggo’s Super 8 restoration but I had the Ken Films cut-down back in the day. One of Leia’s lines in that (asteroid field scene) sounds very strange. I remember my friends and I used to joke that it wasn’t really Carrie but the Ken Films secretary because it didn’t sound like her.

I think that this is a fine idea and your execution is already off to a good start. It’s nice to see folks coming up with embellishments like this ten years (+) after the movie came out!

I only want to see a midichlorian trilogy if Terrance Malnick gets to direct it.

Regarding note 6, here’s my suggestion:
Cut things like this…Obi Wan sees Anakin off with Padme
Cut to OWK taking the poison dart to the droids for analysis (cut scene from AOTC)
Trim the scene so we just see the droids inspecting it.
Cut to OWK in the Jedi Temple library learning that the system isn’t in their archives.
Cut the rest, younglings, Yoda all that.
What this does is make OWK less of an idiot. He knows the name of the planet, he knows that something underhanded is up because it’s scrubbed from the Jedi archives, he knows the area that he needs to go to in order to find it.
Eliminating other scenes cuts out OWK running around announcing that something foul is afoot, it deletes a scene that is too stiff (younglings) and per your goal keeps things moving along. There really isn’t a payoff in the next movie with the young Jedi being killed, that’s always been a weak scene and if a lot of what constitutes it happens offscreen the better.

teharri said:

Any chance we get the dice added to falcon cockpit scenes?

and re-shoot someone in Lando’s clothes taking them down?

The stormtroopers aren’t intimidating in R1 and Solo, the Empire is intimidating.
The Empire is at a part of it’s existence where their policy is scorched earth, our way or the highway. They’re kinda like the Russians in WW2, they got some cool toys but mostly they’re poorly trained and armed conscripts and if you have to deal with 300,000 soldiers on a planet you send 3,000,000 soldiers at them and 75% of those guys are going to die but you’re going to achieve your goal. By the time of ANH they’re pretty comfortable in what they’ve done and the compliance it has fostered and the slack is setting in.

I agree, the movie doesn’t really need a fanedit. The only thing I would like to see go is Darth Maul however I suspect that we’re going to see a lot more of him in future installments so we’re stuck with him.
My wife and I both loved L3 and the audience in the theater that we saw it in responded very well to that character. We wish that there was more of her and Disney is getting the new robots right (BB8, K2, L3…hmmm is the next one M4?) but why do they have to kill 'em off?

There are two issues with the movie for me and I don’t know if they are fixable. One, the movie is too damn dark. Two, I don’t need non-stop music, especially mixed higher in the sound like this one was. One of the things that I loved about the Twin Peaks revival was Lynch’s use of long takes that allowed the viewer to see the environment and the fact that he let the story speak for itself, the franchise folks should take a long hard look at what he did because he owns the remake/reboot/restart-it thing in my book.

There was some great world building in this, I think that a lot of the very beginning of the movie wasn’t needed at all, I would have happily traded all the Corellia gang stuff for more Corellia world building as an environment (not a let’s plunge you right into conflict from “GO”).

VERY Impressed.
However.
A bar full of people listening to Blue Monday and NO ONE is even bopping a little bit?

One thing that I’m wondering is if in ten years (give or take) there’s enough movies that have enough overlapping timelines that we’ll be able to intercut them.

For instance, the opening of Rogue 1 takes place before the rest of it, the opening act of Solo takes place before the rest of it, at this rate if we receive enough chunks of different time frames we could make movies that are driven by the chronology and not just the individual satellite installment.

I am not thrilled to see Maul in this one and my inclination is snip-city, however, didn’t they say the actor playing Han is signed for two more movies? The only point of re-introducing Maul is to have him in a future movie, so going fanedit happy on that scene may backfire when he shows up again in Solo Part Two or Obi Wan part one comes out or where ever he pops up again.

darthrush said:

Possessed said:

darthrush said:

And it’s a Star Wars movie. It’s honestly one of the stupidest complaints I have heard about the Last Jedi.

Teh lady haz purple hair!

While that is an entirely inconsequential thing to complain about, and also a stupid reason to not like the movie, if I had my way, the purple hair would be gone.

It’s better than the refuge from a Wendy’s ad red hair that she was sporting in Twin Peaks - The Return.

I don’t really mind the leaf joke as I think it illustrates a difference between the light and dark sides, one is about life and the other is about subverting life for power, one side uses play as a learning device (all the way back to Yoda hiding his identity when he meets Luke) and the other has no use for play or humor.
Some of the humor in TLJ should be reduced or redacted however some of it has it’s place. There’s always been humor in this franchise, let’s not be hung up on grimdarking it too much.
I suspect that the Han Solo movie is going to be very funny, probably more than any Star Wars movie to date. I’m suspecting funny and goofy and honestly I can’t wait. If there is a trifecta of characters that could pull off a Star Wars movie that is downright humorous I think it is Han, Lando and Chewie.

Your clip is really creatively well done and put together, great job. I look forward to hearing more about your cut.

Possessed said:

ray_afraid said:

I’m really loving everything I’ve seen from this movie so far.
Crazy how much I’ve been won over. Really lookin’ forward to this.

Samezies

Count me in, too.
I love it that it looks silly and goofy and just fun…
…and the s***storm of people complaining about that is going to be ten times worse than the fan division created by TLJ.

SilverWook said:

Kids will never believe we used to wait three years for a new film.

14 between RotJ and TPM.

This showed up in my reader feed today, some sort of obscure Japanese ROTJ Trailer found.

http://mostly-retro.com/2018/01/03/the-star-wars-trailer-sound-tape-what-the-hell-is-this-thing/

A lot of it, especially early in the (short) video, looks like a video game. The dueling clips are inspiring, however you watch the fight then and ignore the environment that it is happening in, the ceiling in the hallway really looks off in the entire clip.

Here’s one of my ideas:
Recut TFA and either omit the opening crawl or make a new one, the reason why will be clear in a second.
Starfield
Voice over - Yoda - ''Through the Force, things you will see. Other places, the future, the past, old friends long gone."
Fade to Luke stalking young Ben Solo at his academy, when the scenes of the that are finished move Rey’s Force vision from E7 here. At the end of her Force vision cut to the troopers on the landing transport and continue the movie.
Later, when Rey touches a light saber for the first time, we need to use something else now.
I propose shirtless Kylo Ren.
Ha ha, just kidding.
Use a clip from TLJ of her and Kylo Ren fighting the Praetorian Guards, it will give resonance to her resolution that Kylo Ben is redeemable.

Darth Lucas said:

I’ve been mulling over how to make Luke’s death less sudden and stupid.
It might be kind of corny but I here’s how I see it playing out:]

How about the Luke death scene before Rey arrives on Achoo?

TV’s Frink said:

More importantly, they were barely in the film. Especially compared to what many people feared.

And also compared to those awful Ewoks.

FIFY

I dislike most of TFA and I love TLJ. I have a hard time investing in Darth Temper Tantrum, however I am able to overlook a lot of the weakness of that character in this movie. I already have some fanedit ideas for this one that largely revolve arond the structure of the first 45 min or so and eliminating SOME humor.

I’ve noticed two trends with folks who dislike R1 and TLJ, the big one is resistance to moving away from legacy characters (Luke/Han/Leia) and the other is the Mary Sue/I don’t like minorities crowd. I don’t see a lot of the latter here but see a lot of it elsewhere onliine.

I seriously dislike TFA and saw this to financially support the franchise if it offers more like Rogue 1, I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked this one.

SilverWook said:

And since I only really know Laura Dern from Jurassic Park, I thought raptors would show up and chase her. 😉

You gotta see Blue Velvet. And Rambling Rose. And she’s awesome as Diane in S3 of Twin Peaks.

Speaking of Twin Peaks, 2017 was the year where David Lynch owned the remake/remodel/resurrect a brand thing. Nobody does it better.

The Obi-Wan scene is needless, all he does is tell Luke that Leia is his sister. Cut that. Cut it cut it cut it - do it. Now.
Cut this scene and leave the one where Yoda says “there is another Skywalker.” Trim the scene where Luke and Leia talk on Endor to reflect this
NOW
During the end battle Vader says “you have a twin sister” do a flash of Leia via the Force. Yads did this in one of his edits but if my memory is correct I don’t think he scrubbed all the earlier stuff. Now it was Darth Vader who told Luke that he was his father and now it is Darth Vader telling Luke that he has sister, who is now fair play as a target. The scene makes the Skywalker family tree a revelation to Luke, Vader and the Emperor. Luke losing his cool makes even more sense when you cut it this way. I’ve done an edit of RotJ using the Yads edit as a base (the Boba Fett less one) and it works very, very well.

And yet in Revenge of the Sith we see them building the dish as part of the frame of the station. Maybe it got broked up

You have to focus on what is available to know. At the end of RotS we see a Death Star being built. We don’t know if that is one and the same as the one in E4. That one could have, for all we know, blown up when they test fired it. If you read Cold War history or history of the space race you learn how many failures we had just trying to make one rocket that would launch the way that we wanted it to. Build - launch - blown up on the pad/crash/otherwise fail. Back to the drawing board and repeat the process again and again and again and again.